Mar 16, 2026 City Council Meeting

[1. CALL TO ORDER]

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>> THE MONDAY MARCH 16 CITY COUNCIL MEET K, FIRST THING ON THE AGENDA IS APPROVAL OF THE

[2. AGENDA APPROVAL]

AGENDA. >> MOVE FOR APPROVAL. >> SECOND.

>> NEXT UP IS INVOCATION. PASTOR BENJAMIN KEITH SNYDER, CARMEL FRIENDS CHURCH.

ER >> THANK YOU, MR. SNYDER, NO RELATION, JUST A GOOD LAST NAME.

TONIGHT I THOUGHT I WOULD SHARE WITH YOU A NAME THAT'S GOING AROUND IN POLITICS, YOU MAY HAVE HEARD THE TERM SPEAK TRUTH TO POWER. THAT WAS BY QUAKER, A GENTLEMAN NAMED BYARD RUS T*IN, IF WE DESIRE SOCIETY FOR PEACE, THEN WE CANNOT ACHIEVE SUCH A SOCIETY THROUGH VIOLENCE, IF WE DESIRE A SOCIETY WITHOUT DISCRIMINATION, THEN WE MUST NOT DISCRIMINATE ANYONE IN THE PROCESS OF BIDDING THIS SOCIETY. IF WE DESIRE A SOCIETY THAT IS DEMOCRATIC, THEN DEMOCRACY MUST BECOME A MEANS AS WELL AS AN END AND I'M MINDFUL THAT TODAY, THERE ARE MANY PEOPLE IN THIS ROOM WHO ARE IN POLICES -- PLACES OF POWER, CONTINUE TO SPEAK YOUR TRUTH TO ONE ANOTHER, AND WE WILL ACHIEVE DEMOCRATIC NAMES AND I'M THANKFUL FOR THEM. LET'S ASSUME AN ATTITUDE OF PRAYER.

GOD OF JUSTICE AND MERCY, WE'RE THANKFUL FOR THIS COMMUNITY WHERE YOU HAVE PLACED US, WE ARE THANKFUL FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TO ONE ANOTHER IN DEMOCRATIC WAYS.

WE SEEK JUSTICE AND MERCY, WE SEEK THE GOOD OF OUR COMMUNITY AND WE PRAY TODAY THAT YOU WOULD KEEP US MINDFUL TO BE NEIGHBORLY TO ONE ANOTHER, TO TRAOEFP EACH OTHER THE WAY WE WOULD WANT TO BE TREATED. E WE ASK THAT WE LISTEN WELL, MOT JUST WAIT FOR OUR TURN TO SPEAK, TO SEEK TO UNDERSTAND MORE THAN TO BE UNDERSTOOD, FOR THIS, AND ALL THINGS, WE WILL BE THANKFUL AND GIVE YOU PRAISE, AMEN. HAVE A WONDERFUL MEETING.

>> PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. COUNCILMAN, IF YOU CAN LEAD US, PLEASE.

>> I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

>> RECOGNITION OF CITY EMPLOYEES AND OUTSTANDING CITIZENS.

ONCE AGAIN THERE'S TOO MANY TO HAVE IN HERE TONIGHT, RECOGNITION OF PERSONS WHO WISH

[6. RECOGNITION OF PERSONS WHO WISH TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL]

NOW, IN THE PAST, I'VE BEEN PRETTY LENIENT BUT WE DO HAVE QUITE A FEW AND WE ARE GOING TO HOLD TO THE THREE MINUTE LIMIT, NO SIBS -- SIGNS OF EMOTIONS, PLEASE, THIS IS A TIME TO HEAR, NOT A A TIME TO DEBATE, SO I LOOK FORWARD TO HEARING EVERYBODY'S COMMENTS.

FIRST UP IS NICHOLAS MILLER. ON DECK -- I'M SORRY, SO GO TO PODIUM, MAKE YOU SURE THE MICROPHONE'S ON, YOU'LL GET A YELLOW LIGHT WHEN YOU HAVE A MINUTE LEFT AND WHEN IT'S RED,

PLEASE FINISH YOUR SENTENCE. >> MY NAME IS NICHOLAS MILLER AND I WANT TODAY EL CELEBRATE THE FACT THIS IS ABOUT THE TEN YEAR ANNIVERSARY WHEN THIS GROUP AND THE MAYOR HAD PROMISED US THERE WOULD BE NO COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT WEST OF SPRING MILL ROAD WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE VILLAGE OF WEST CLAY, SO A TEN YEAR ANNIVERSARY.

SO, I WANTED TO MAKE SURE YOU WERE AWARE OF THAT AND REMIND YOU THERE'S NEVER BEEN A PUD HAS THE BZA HASN'T APPROVED A VARIANCE FOR. THANK YOU.

>> NEXT UP, I'LL PUT THESE IN CATEGORY BY TOPIC, JOE MIZENHOWER.

>> GOOD EVENING, MY NAME IS JILL, I'M ASKING THAT YOU APPROVE THE U.S. 31 SUB AREA

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E EVER BEEN WRITING CRC CARMEL RESPONSIBLE CITIZENS, IT MIGHT IMPACT NEIGHBORS, I LIVED IN EAST CARMEL FOR 28 YEAR AND IS HAVE NOW LIVED ON THE EAST SIDE OF CARMEL ACROSS THE RINSES OF PUD, I'VE ATTEND MOST OF THE MEETINGS REGARDING THIS PLAN DURING THE PLANNING COMMISSION IN 25, I APPRECIATE THE LAND USE COMMITTEE PREVIOUS CHAIRMAN SNYDER AND CURRENT CHAIR ANITA JOSHI, THEY HAVE INCLUDED INPUT FROM THE PUBLIC. PUBLIC PARTSZ PACING -- PARTICIPATION HAS BEEN NECESSARY TO GUIDE A PLAN, I THANK YOU ALL FOR TALKING TO, LISTEN TO AND CONSIDERING THE CONCERNS OF NEIGHBORS WHO MAY BE IMPACT BY THE U.S. 31 SUB AREA PLAN. THANK YOU FOR INCLUDING ON PAGES 4 AND 5 OF THE PLAN THE NAMES OF THE NEIGHBORHOODS ADJACENT TO THE SUB AREA PLAN. I THANK YOU FOR PROVIDING PROTECTIONS FOR NEIGHBORS WHO LIVE ADD JAYS JASPER -- ADJACENT TO THE PLAN EVEN THOUGH THEY MAY NOT KNOW IT WILL AFFECT THEM AND ALL THE RESIDENTS IN THE ROOM PROBABLY APPRECIATE WHAT IS BEING INCLUDED IN THE TRANSITION AREA WHICH IS 300 FEET OF EXISTING SINGLE FAMILY PROPERTY THAT THERE SHOULD BE NO BUILDINGS TALLER THAN THREE STORIES, REDENT SETBACK ASKS TO CREATE A TRANSITION IN RESIDENTIAL AREAS AND MEASURES SHOULD BE TAKEN TO MITIGATE NOISE AND POLLUTANTS THAT NEGATIVELY IMPACT NEIGHBORING REZSIDENTIAL AREAS.

I URGE CITY COUNCIL COMMITTEES TO CONTINUE TO INCLUDE PUBLIC INPUT BEFORE VOTING ON E DEVELOPMENT OR REDEVELOPMENT PROPOSAL ESPECIALLY WHICH WH* THERE ARE CHANGES AND I'M SURE

THEY'LL BENEFIT FROM THIS PLAN, THANK YOU. >> MR. [INAUDIBLE].

>> GOOD EVENING, MY NAME IS MARK DUART, THE SPRING LAKES ESTATES HOME OWNERS ASSOCIATION, I WANTED TO MAKE A FEW COMMENTS ABOUT THE U.S. 31 SUB AREA PLAN.

I WANT TO THANK YOU ALL FOR THE TIME YOU HAVE PUT IN REVIEWING THAT AND THE WAY YOU'VE GONE ABOUT IT INCLUDING INPUT FROM THE ADJACENT NEIGHBORHOODS. WHEN I TRAVEL AND I'M TALKING WITH PEOPLE WHO DON'T LIVE IN INDIANA, AND THEY FIND OUT THAT I'M FROM CARMEL, INDIANA, I CAN USUALLY TELL THAT THEY'VE ALREADY HEARD OF OUR CITY. AND WHEN SOME GO ON TO ASK ME HOW WE BECAME THE WELL KNOWN CITY THAT WE ARE, THE ADJECTIVES I FIND MYSELF SHARING ARE INTENTIONAL, WELL THOUGHT OUT, COMMUNITY-MINDED AND THINGS ARE DONE WELL IN AN UNCOMMONLY NICE WAY. I THINK EVERYBODY -- I WOULD LIKE TO EVERYBODY TO THINK ABOUT HOW DOES OUR CITY GET THESE QUALITIES. AND I THINK IT'S BY PAYING ATTENTION TO IMPORTANT DETAILS AND THIS IS WHAT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THAT WAS ADOPTED IN 2022 REMINDS US THAT WE ARE SUPPOSED TO BE DOING WHEN WE ARE ENGAGED IN A SUB AREA PLANNING PROCESS. AND THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN SAYS WE'RE GOING TO FOSTER A CITY OF NEIGHBORHOODS, OBJECTIVE 1.3.2 SAYS CONDUCT PLANNING IN GREATER DETAIL IN CRITICAL SUB AREAS AND CORRIDORS. THESE SMALL AREA PLANS ARE CRITICAL WHERE DEVELOPMENT PRESSURE MEET LOCAL NEEDS. SO, AT THE END OF THE LAND USE SUBCOMMITTEE PROCESS, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE THE LATEST DRAFT IN FRONT OF YOU AND IT'S A MORE DETAILED DRAFT THAN WHAT WE STARTED OUT WITH AND I THINK THOSE DETAILS AREN'T JUST UNNECESSARY COMPLEXITY, THEY'RE IMPORTANT DETAILS THAT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN TELLS US THAT WE SHOULD EXPECT TO FIND IN A SUB AREA PLAN. AND THE IMPORTANT DETAILS THE SERIES OF THE LAND USE

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>> [INAUDIBLE]. >> GOOD EVENING, I'M GUS NEVARA, A LONGTIME RESIDENT OF CARMEL AND THE LAST 7 YEAR INS JACKSON'S GRANT, AS A RESULT, EVE BEEN FO TO* A FEW OF THESE MEETINGS FOR DIFFERENT REASONS FOR DIFFERENT DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS THAT HAVE OCCURRED AND WE HAVE BEEN INVESTED AND CONCERNED WITH. I HAVE TO SAY UP FRO*RNT, I REALLY APPRECIATE THIS CITY COUNCIL VERSION. I'VE NEVER BEEN IN THE LAST 7 YEARS WORKING WITH SUCH A COUNCIL THAT LISTENS AND WORKS TO FIND A SOLUTION FOR ALL PARTIES INVOLVED AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT'S BEEN DONE HERE SO, THANK YOU NAR.

I LIVE IN JACKSON'S [INAUDIBLE], IT'S ALONG SPRING MILL ROAD WHICH IS ONE LANE NORTH AND ONE LANE SOUTH SO IT'S VERY BUSY. A LOT OF TIMES DURING THE DAY, ESPECIALLY DURING THE PEAK HOURS AND MORNING AND EVENING, AND THE INTERSECTION AT 116TH AND SPRING MILL HAS HAD FENDER BENDER AND SOME TRAFFIC ACCIDENT ISS SO THE TRAFFIC HAS BECOME SOMEWHAT CONCERNING SO MY QUESTION TO YOU IS AS YOU COMPLETE THE U.S. 31 CORRIDOR, PLEASE MANAGE THE GROWTH EFFECTIVELY. PLEASE MANAGE IT SO THAT THE RESIDENTS IN THE AREA ARE PROTECTED ALONG SPRING MILL ROAD AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE AND PLEASE INCLUDE A SIGNIFICANT WELL DEFINED TRANSITION AREA AS YOU GO EAST TOWARD ILLINOIS, TOWARD PENNSYLVANIA, ETC., MARK MENTIONED THAT INTENTIONAL AND WELL THOUGHT OUT ARE KEY DESCRIPTIONS OF OUR AREA AND THAT'S WHAT I'M ASKING FOR AS YOU DEVELOP THE IUPUD, INITIALLY OUR GROUP AND OUR NEIGHBORHOOD WAS AGAINST EXTENDING THAT LINE AS FAR WEST TO SPRING MILL ROAD, WE DIDN'T SEE THE NEED WHEN YOU'RE THINKING ABOUT U.S. 31 CORRIDOR AND THE HIGHWAY, THERE'S DIFFERENT REASONS WHY THAT WAS GIVEN BUT WHAT I APPRECIATE IS THE SOLUTION YOU COME ABOUT WITH, WITH THE VERY BADGE TO WORK WITHIN THOSE BOUNDARY LINES AND AS LONG AS THERE'S PROTECTIONS IN PLACE, WE UP SUPPORT THAT AND I THANK YOU FOR YOUR SUPPORT TO COME ONE A SOLUTION OF MAJORITY OF RESIDENT THAT IS LIVE IN THE

AREAS THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> [INAUDIBLE]. .

ER HELLO, COUNCILORS, I'M V. POX AND I CAREFULLY FOLLOWED THE REVIEW OF THE PROSED U.S.

31 PLAN. I THANK EACH OF YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND EFFORT THAT IS HAVE CONTRIBUTED TO IMPROVING THIS PLAN AND I WANT TO EXPRESS A THANK YOU TO COUNCIL SNIDE AND HER JOSHI, THEY INVITED RESIDENTS WHO ATTENDED THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS TO SPEAK AND PARTICIPATE IN THE SUB AREA DISCUSSIONS. WE FELT INCLUDED, TRULY LISTENED TO AND THAT OUR THOUGHTS AND SUGGESTIONS AND CONCERNS WERE VALUED.

THIS WAS NEW IN THE COMMITTEE PROCESS AND IT IS SO APPRECIATED.

I HOPE THIS WILL CONTINUE. ALSO A SPECIAL THANKS TO THE DEPARTMENT OF COMMUNITY SERVICES FOR ACCEPTING MANY OF OUR SUGGESTIONS FOR INCORPORATING THEM INTO THE PLAN AND FOR MAKE THING THE REVISIONS TO THE DOCUMENT. AND THANK YOU TO ALL WHO WERE INVOLVED WITH INCLUSIN OF THE PLAN OF AN ACTUALLY EFFECTIVE TRANSITION AREA AROUND THIS LARGE AREA. A SPECIAL THANK TOSS COUNCILMAN LOCKE FOR ENABLING US TO ENVISION THIS TRANSITION AREA ON A MAP, WE NEEDED HELP. OUR NEEDS WERE MET FOR INCLUDING STRONG PROTECTIONS FOR ESTABLISHED RESIDENTIAL HOMES AND NEIGHBORHOODS AND EXISTING PUD'S FROM THE INTENSE MERIDIAN CORRIDOR REDEVELOPMENT. I HOPE THAT ATTENTION TO STRONG

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AND LAST BUT NOT LEAST, MANY THANKS TO THE CARMEL RESIDENTS WHO HAVE PERSEVERED AND PARTICIPATED THROUGHOUT THIS REVIEW PROCESS TO IMPROVE AND CLARIFY THIS PLAN.

I THINK THIS IS A GOOD PLAN THAT EVERYONE WORKED HARD FOR. IT DOES NOT TAKE ANYTHING AWAY FROM OR MAKE ANYTHING WORSE FOR THE CENTRAL MERIDIAN CORRIDOR DEVELOPMENT AND REDEVELOPMENT.

IT PROVIDES FOR BOTH NEEDED REDEVELOPMENT IN THE CENTRAL MERIDIAN CORRIDOR AND EFFECTIVE PROTECTION OF THE ADJACENT NEIGHBORS FROM POTENTIAL NEGATIVE IMPACTS OF INTENSE DEVELOPMENT IN THE MERIDIAN CORRIDOR. THIS IS WHAT BALANCED RESPONSIBLE DEVELOPMENT LOOKS LIKE. THIS IS WHAT CARMEL RESIDENTS HAVE BEEN SEEKING. I HOPE YOU WILL APPROVE THIS PLAN AND THANKS AGAIN.

>> MR. JOVAN. >> GOOD EVENING, EVERYONE. MY NAME IS JOVAN, I HAVE RESIDED IN CARMEL FOR OVER 30 YEARS AND FOR THE LAST TEN YEARS, I HAVE RESIDED IN CITY CENTER WHICH ARE LOCATED ON AUTUMN DRIVE AND I'M CURRENTLY THE PRESIDENT OF THE HOA THERE.

WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS TONIGHT IS ON A GENERAL TOPIC OF WHAT APPEARS TO BE A CONTINUING LACK OF NOTICE AND TRANSPARENCY REGARDING INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS THAT IMPACT FOLKS IN VARIOUS NEIGHBORHOODS AND THE EXAMPLE I WOULD LIKE TO USE IS THE CITY'S CURRENT PLAN OR PROPOSAL TO PUT TEN PARKING SPACES ALONG AUTUMN DRIVE.

NOW I FOUND ABOUT THAT PROJECT INFORMALLY AND I PREPARED AN E-MAIL THAT I SENT TO ALL THE MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL OUTLINING VARIOUS OBJECTIONS AND ISSUES WITH THE PLACEMENT OF THOSE PARKING PLACES. IT TURNS OUT THE PROJECT WAS ADDRESSED BY THE FINANCE COMMITTEE ON TUESDAY MARCH 11. HOWEVER T THE DAY BEFORE, NO AGENDA HAD BEEN POSTED FOR THAT MEETING. THAT WAS AS OF ABOUT 11:00 THE DAY BEFORE AND I DID NOT ATTEND THE MEETING. HOWEVER, IN REVIEWING THE VIDEO OF THE MEETING, THE E-MAIL AND THE OBJECTIONS WERE DISCUSSED IN DEPTH WHICH I REALLY APPRECIATE ALL THE OKAYS WERE DISMISSED. THE THING THAT TROUBLED ME WAS DURING THE MEETING, ONE TOF COUNCILORS WHO WAS PRESENT NOTED THAT I WASN'T THERE EVEN THOUGH I HAD NOTICE WHICH TURNED OUT NOT TO BE ACCURATE. I FEEL THAT WAS WRONG, THAT I HAD MADE THE OBJECTIONS, I HAD MADE THEM THROUGH AN E-MAIL AND I DON'T THINK ANYONE SHOULD BE PENALIZED AFTER SENDING IN A WRITTEN OBJECTION FOR NOT COMING IN TO DEFEND IT IN PERSON.

I DO KNOW THE BUSINESS OWNER IN FAVOR OF THE PARKING PLACES DID HAVE NOTICE AND DID APPEAR AND WAS THE ONLY NON-COMMITTEE PERSON WHO WAS PRESENT. BASICALLY THAT HAP-HAZARD NOTICE ISN'T RIGHT OR PROPER AND I DON'T SEE A REASON WHY THE CITY CAN'T POST A SIMPLE SIGN AT THE PROPOSED INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECT, EVEN A QR CODE THAT SAYS HERE'S WHAT WE'RE GOING DO, HERE'S A DATE, TIME AND PLACE WHERE IT WILL BE DISCUSSED, SIMILAR TO THE SIGNS THAT WE SEE AS PROPOSED ZONING CHANGES. FOLKS SHOULDN'T HAVE TO SIT THERE DEVOTING TIME AND RESOURCES GOING INTO RABBIT HOLES TO FIND OUT WHAT THE CITY PLANS TO DO WITH PROJECTS THAT IMPACT THEIR LIVES. IT ONLY BREEDS A DEGREE OF DISTRUST AND FOR A CITY THAT REALLY TOUTS ITSELF AS BEING WORLD CLASS, THE CURRENT LACK OF NOTICE AND TRANSPARENCY IS DISAPPOINT -- DISAPPOINTING TO SAY THE LEAST.

THANK YOU. >> [INAUDIBLE]. >> GOOD EVENING, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL, MY NAME IS BRANT BUR AM, A REPRESENT OF SENIOR HOME COMPANION AND IS STORAGE

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OUR BUSINESS DOWSES AND OPERATES THE BUSINESS THERE, WE HAVE BEEN THE DE FACTO ACCIDENTAL PARKING OF CHRIS KINDELL MARK AND SOMETIMES THE SUMMER MARKET AS WELL, WE WOULD APPRECIATE ADDITIONAL PARKING, IT WOULD BENEFIT ALL OF OUR BUSINESSES, I APPRECIATE YOU CONSIDERING THE MATTER SO SMALL COMPARATIVELY TO THE U.S. 31 PROJECT, THANK YOU.

>> MS. CARPENTER. >> HI, ANY NAME IS DEB CARPENTER, I HAVE BEEN LIVING HERE FOR 27 YEARS. I PREPARED A LOT OF COMMENTS THAT I WAS UNHINGING THROUGH PRETTY QUICKLY BUT I WANTED TO COMMENT ABOUT HOW MANY OTHER PEOPLE HAD SAID THINGS THAT REALLY TOUCHED ME ABOUT WHAT MY CONCERNS ARE AND THAT IS THAT PLAN INING THE CITY HAS BEEN VERY COMMUNITY FUNDED AND THAT'S PART OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND IT'S BEEN VERY INTENTIONAL. THE INTENTION ALSO IS TO PROTECT RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS. I'M HERE THE SPEAK ABOUT THE EXPANSION OF THE RESTORACY PROJECT, A PREPZ SALOPOSAL FOR I THINK IT'S 22 ADDITIONAL BEDS, BUT BASICALLY THAT IS STARTING TO MOVE INTO THE NEIGHBORHOODS OF [INAUDIBLE] VILLAGE AND AT THE ENDS OF THE COURTS WHERE WE LIVE. I'M CONCERNED ABOUT ONE OF THE HICKS THAT WAS -- THINGS THAT WAS MENTIONED IN THE URBAN CORE DOWNTOWN DEVELOPMENT ABOUT HOW ESSENTIAL IT IS TO HAVE RESPONSIBLE LAND USE THAT ALSO PRESERVES RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS.

AND WE KNOW THAT ALREADY ONE HOME WILL BE PURCHASED AND WILL BE GIVEN UP FOR THAT PROJECT BUT ALSO IT SPEAKS SPECIFICALLY TO THE THOROUGHFARE OF RICH LAND AVENUE GOING FROM 131ST STREET TO CITY CENTER WHICH IS A PROJECT THAT THOSE OF US HAVE LIVED THERE FOR SO LONG HAVE HEARD ABOUT FOR PROBABLY TEN YEARS IN A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT WAYS AND A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT SOURCES FROM THE CITY THAT NEVER CAME INTO ANY KIND OF FRUITION OR ANY RESOLUTION AT ALL. REPEATED REQUESTS TO FIND OUT WHAT THAT WAS GOING TO MEAN FOR OUR NEIGHBORHOOD THAT JUST WERE NOT ABLE TO BE ANSWERED EXCEPT -- WE DON'T HAVE MONEY FOR IT YET WHICH IS UNDERSTANDABLE CERTAINLY, BUT IT WASN'T SURPRISING TO SEE AND SEE THAT IN THE PLAN, SO DEFINITIVELY, AND IT WAS ALSO SOMETHING THAT MADE US ALL THINK THAT IF THIS EXPANSION DOES GO THROUGH, THAT'S GOING TO TAKE ADDITIONAL HOMES IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD TO BUILD OUT THE RICHLAND THOROUGHFARE, IT WILL NOT BE ABLE TO TAKE ONE OR TWO HOMES WHICH WAS THE ORIGINAL THOUGHT AND MINE BEING ONE OF THOSE TWO HOMES BUT IT'S GOING TO TAKE MORE AND THIS IS A COMMUNITY THAT IS INCREDIBLY DEDICATED TO EACH OTHER.

IT'S ENRICHED MY LIFE SO MUCH BEING ABLE TO LIVE IN THIS COMMUNITY OF PEOPLE AND THESE ARE PEOPLE THAT HAVE AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN THIS CITY AND ONE OF THE INTENTIONS OF THE RESTORACY IT STATED WAS THAT PEOPLE COULD AGE IN PLACE, THAT PEOPLE COULD STAY IN THEIR COMMUNITIES AS THEY GOT OLDER, BUT ADDING THESE BEDS DOES VERY LITTLE TO MAINTAIN THE NEIGHBORHOOD SO I

WOULD LIKE YOU TO CONSIDER THAT, PLEASE. >> [INAUDIBLE].

>> GOOD EVENING, MY NAME IS ALLY AND MY HUSBAND AND I HAVE LIVED AT 9 LINCOLN COURT, I WANT TO HIGHLIGHT OUR NEIGHBORHOOD'S FLOODING PROBLEM, IT IS NOT NOT NEW, IT IS A A DECADES LONG INFRASTRUCTURE FAILURE THAT HAS CONTINUED TO WORSEN.

WE HAVE DOCUMENTED REPEATED FLOOD, CONTACTED CITY OFFICIALS, HOSTED SITE VISITORS, PROVIDED PHOTOGRAPHS SHOWING IMPACTS ON OUR HOMES AND OUR YARDS, THE CORRESPONDENCE WITH THE CITY OFFICIALS OVER MANY YEARS REFLECTS THE SAME PATTERN, ACKNOWLEDGMENT OF THE PROBLEM, PROMISES OF FUTURE FIXES AND CONTINUED FLOODING.

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THIS ISSUE PREDATES THE LATEST PROPOSAL BEFORE YOU TONIGHT, A PREVIOUSLY RAISED THESE CONCERNS AT PLANNED COMMISSION MEETING AND COMMUNICATED THEM TO MY CITY COUNCILOR, TERESA AYERS, WE ARE PROMISED THAT UNDERGROUND RETENTION WILL SO*FM THE ISSUE, BUT MORE CONCRETE AND MORE TREES ALWAYS PRODUCE THE SAME RESULT, MORE RUNOFF AND MORE FLOODING.

OUR NEIGHBORHOOD HAS SEEN THE AFFECTS OF IMPERVIOUS SURFACE, THEY CONTINUE TO EXPERIENCE STANDING WATER, OVERWHELMED DRAINS AND PROPERTY DAMAGE. THERE IS ALSO A LARGER PLANNING CONCERNED, AS MY NEIGHBOR DEB MENTIONED, THE PARCEL PROPOSED FOR EXPANSION SITS ON THE LAND LONG ASSOCIATED WITH THE EXTENSION OF RICHLAND AVENUE IN THE CITY'S COMPREHENSIVE PLANNING DISCUSSION. APPROVING DEVELOPMENT THERE TODAY MAY PREVENT THE CITY FROM ACQUIRING THE LAND IN THE FUTURE IN A WAY THAT COULD SAVE TWO OR EVEN THREE EXISTING FAMILIES HOMES WHEN THE ROAD IS ULTIMATELY BUILT. ONCE THE LAND IS DEVELOPED, THAT OPTION DISAPPEARS. MINE ASK NOT IN OPPOSITION TO SENIOR CARE, CARMEL NEEDS SENIOR CARE CAPACITY BUT THIS PROPOSAL ADDS ONLY 24 BEDS WHILE POTENTIALLY COMPLICATING INFRASTRUCTURE PLANNING, WORSENING STORMWATER PROBLEMS AND INCREASING COSTS FOR TAXPAYERS AND RESIDENTS, SO MY REQUEST IS IS REASONABLE AND SIMPLE, PAUSE THE EXTENSION UNTIL THE CITY FULLY ADDRESSEE THE FLOODING ISSUES AND CLARIFIES THE RICHLAND, I WANT YOU TO PICTURE SOMETHING VERY SIMPLE, IMAGINE WATCHING THE SAME FLOODING HAPPEN IN YOUR BACKYARD YEAR AFTER YEAR, DOCUMENTING IT, REPEATING, AND WE'RE TOLD HELP IS COMING NEXT YEAR, MEANWHILE THE FLOODING GETS WORSE. FIX THE FLOODING FIRST AND THEN PLAN THE GROWTH, THAT'S ALL I'M ASKING. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND

CONSIDERATION. >> THANK YOU, MRS. MISLER. NEXT UP, THIS DOES CONCLUDE THE PUBLIC -- THE BLUE CARD SESSION. NEXT UP IS COUNCIL AND MAYORAL COMMENTS AND OBSERVATIONS.

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COUNCIL MINNAAR? >>THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT, I WOULD LIKE TO REMIND EVERYBODY THAT ON THURSDAY MARCH 26, WE HAVE WHAT WE CALL THE -- WHAT EVERYONE CALLS THE MISSING MIDDLE EXPERT COMING TO THE CITY OF CARMEL TO GO OVER WHAT WE CAN DO IN OUR UDO TO POSSIBLY MAKE SOME MEANINGFUL CHANGES OR NO MEANINGFUL CHANGES BUT THE IMPORTANT PIECE OF THIS IS THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE THE -- AFTER THIS GENTLEMAN GIVERS HIS PRESENTATION ABOUT WHAT OUR CITY IS AND HOW IT LOOKS AND HOW IT'S DEVELOPED AND WHAT WE CAN DO TO MAYBE FIND SOME OF THESE MISSING MIDDLE SOLUTIONS, WE HAVE AN HOUR THAT WE'RE GOING ADJOURN OUR MEET, HE' GOING TO MAKE THESE PRESENTATION AT 10:00, FROM 11-12, THERE WILL BE AN OPEN SESSION OF QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS OPEN TO THE PUBLIC.

SO, IF YOU HAVE ANY COMPULSION OR IDEAS YOU WOULD LIKE US TO CONSIDER, WE WOULD LIKE YOU TO ATTEND THIS MEETING ON THURSDAY MARCH 26, 10 A.M. -- EXCUSE ME, 9 A.M. IN CITY HALT, THE PRESENTATION FROM THE GENTLEMAN DAN PAROLIC WILL BE AT 10:00, SO I HOPE TO SEE ALL OF YOU

HERE. THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. >> I JUST WANTED TO MAKE A FEW COMMENTS ON THE US31 PLAN. I WANT TO THANK THE COMMITTEE FOR THEIR HARD WORK.

I ORIGINALLY CAME OUT AND SPOKE OUT AND REQUESTED THE REMOVAL OF THE RESIDENTIAL HOMES NEC TO CLAY TERRACE FROM THE PLAN COMPLETELY AND THE CLEARING NORTH PUD FROM THE PLAN COMPLETELY. AFTER FURTHER CONVERSATION WITH STAFF AND THE COMMITTEE, THEY DID A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF WORK TO PUT IN THE PROTECTIONS FROM WHICH MY REQUEST WAS HELP TOG

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HOWEVER, WITH THE ADDITIONAL BUFFERS AND KNOWING THAT THIS PLAN DOES NOT ALLOW -- DOES NOT INCENTIVIZE THE PUD TO AMEND IT TO CREATE MORE DENSITY OR MORE MIGHT AND -- HEIGHT AND ALSO FINDING OUT MORE INFORMATION ABOUT THE CURRENT ZONING OF THE HOMES NEXT TO CLAY TERRACE AND WITH THE ADDITIONAL LANGUAGE OF SPECIFICALLY PROTECTING THOSE AREAS, I AM IN SUPPORT OF THE RESIDENTIAL HOMES REMAINING IN THE PLAN WITH THE PROTECTIONS NEAR CLAY TERRACE AND KEEPING THE IU PARCEL IN THE U.S. 31 SUB AREA PLAN BASED ON THE PROTECTIONS THE COMMITTEE ADDED SO I APPRECIATE THE WORK EVERYBODY'S PUT IN IT. ALSO THERE ARE ADDITION TOS THE PLAN THAT SHOWS THE FOCUSED AREAS FOR WHICH WE HAVE REDEVELOPED WHICH I THINK WAS VERY IMPORTANT AND THE WHOLE REASON FOR THIS PLAN IS TO ADDRESS DECLINING ASSESSED VALUES IN VACANCIES IN A VERY IMPORTANT CORRIDOR OF OUR COMMUNITY, SO I APPRECIATE THE COMMITTEE'S WORK AND WANTED TO MAKE A STATEMENT ON THAT, THANK YOU.

>> I WAS GOING THE SAVE THIS LATER IN GENERAL, IF WE BRING UP U.S. 31 NOW, I'M GOING SAY SOMETHING REAL QUICK ABOUT THIS, NOT JUST GENERAL ON THE PLAN, I THINK A LOT OF REALLY GOOD WORK HAS BEEN PUT INTO THIS PLAN AND I WANT TO TAKE A MINUTE TO REALLY THANK EVERYONE ON THE COMMITTEE AND EVERYONE IN THE PUBLIC FOR ALL THE FEEDBACK THAT'S BEEN PUT IN.

COUNCILOR JOSHI, MINNAAR, PREVIOUSLY ON LAND USE, COUNCILOR AYERS, THERE WAS GOOD FEEDBACK ABOUT THAT, AND COUNCILOR LOCK THAT WE COULD MOVER IN TH* TOR WARD THAT MAKES EVERYBODY HAPPY. I THINK SOME STATEMENTS MAY HAVE BEEN MISCONSTRUED.

I NEVER WANTED TO REMOVE THE PROTECTIONS. WHAT I WAS CONCERNED ABOUT WAS REMOVING THE REDEVELOPMENT ASPECT OF THE PLAN THAT SEEMED TO BE GETTING LOST AND NOT AS HIGHLIGHTED AS IT ONCE WAS IN THE PLAN SO I WANT TODAY SAY THAT BACK.

I DO WANT TO SAY ONE OTHER THING TOO, I BRING MY DAUGHTER TO THESE MEETINGS, SHE'S 7 YEARS OLD AND AFTER WE GOT HOME FROM THAT MEETING, SHE SAID, DADDY, WHY WERE THOSE PEOPLE SO ANGRY AT YOU AND IT JUST BROKE MY HEART AND I'M GLAD WE HAVE A FORMAT WHERE PEOPLE CAN HAVE CONSTANT CONVERSATION BUT WE'VE GOT -- I KNOW PEOPLE CARE, I KNOW PEOPLE ARE EMOTIONAL ABOUT THESE THINGS BUT IF I DON'T FEEL COMFORTABLE BRINGING MY DAUGHTER TO A MEETING ANYMORE LIKE THAT IS GOING TO BECOME AN ISSUE. I'VE HAD PEOPLE WHERE WHY DO I

BRING HER, GUS, ARE YOU SAYING THAT? >> [INAUDIBLE]

>> BECAUSE I'M A DIVORCED MAN WHO HAS MY DAUGHTER 50% OF THE TIME AND THOSE ARE THE THAIS I

HAVE MY DAUGHTER. IS THAT AN ISSUE FOR YOU, SIR? >> [INAUDIBLE].

>> LET'S KEEP THIS ON THE DAIS, PLEASE. >> I BRING THIS UP BECAUSE --

>> THIS IS TO HIS POINT ABOUT TIME AND PLACE. >> YES, AND WE'VE ALSO HAD INSTANCES WHERE PEOPLE HAVE FOLLOWED PEOPLE TO THE CAR AFTER MEETINGS TO CONTINUE TO HAVE CONVERSATIONS WITH MY DAUGHTER THERE. THIS HAS GOT TO STOP.

SO, I BRING THIS UP BECAUSE I WAS HEART BROKEN AT HER RESPONSE AND I'M SORRY IF YOU'RE OFFENDED THAT I BRING MY DAUGHTER TO A MEETING BUT WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO CONDUCT OURSELVES IN A WAY THAT ANYONE COULD BE PRESENT AND THAT'S ALL I WANT TO SAY ON THAT.

>> SO, I AM JUST GOING TO USE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO SAY, ADAM, THANK YOU FOR BRINGING HER BECAUSE I ENJOY HAVING HER THERE AT THESE MEETINGS, WILLS NO HARM IN BRINGING A CHILD TO A MEETING. I THINK WE ARE A COMMUNITY THAT IS THOUGHTFUL AND ALSO PASSIONATE AND SOMETIMES CAN GET CAUGHT UP IN THE DESIRE TO DO THE RIGHT THING.

ULTIMATELY I THINK WHAT HAS HAPPENED WITH THIS PROCESS IS THAT WE CAN SHOW THAT WE CAN CAN DO THE RIGHT THING. WE CAN GET TO TO A PLACE WHERE WE'RE COMFORTABLE HAVING THESE

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I BELIEVE THAT THE WORDS WERE USED, YOU KNOW, THAT TRANSITIONS ARE INTENTIONAL AND WELL THOUGHT OUT, THAT THE WAY WE WORK THROUGH THIS PROCESS WAS TO DO THAT, TWOUZ BRING THE CARE AND THE COMPASSION INTO THE ROOM AND I WILL CERTAINLY DO MY LEVEL BEST TO ENSURE THAT CARE AND COMPASSION IS ALWAYS AT THE ROOT AT HOW ALL OF US FUNCTION TOGETHER AS A COUNCIL AND HOW WE TRY TO ALL LEAD TOGETHER BUT I KNOW THAT IS SOMETIMES, YOU KNOW, WE'RE ALL HUMAN, AND WE ALL HAVE PASSIONS AND WE ALL HAVE MOMENTS BUT I WANT TO THANK EVERYONE FOR COMING AND I THINK THAT -- I APPRECIATE COUNCILOR TAYLOR'S REMARKS ON THIS AS WELL AND I THINK THAT THE WORK THAT CONTINUES TO MATING THIS PLAN BOTH A DEVELOPMENT PLAN AS WELL AS A PROTECTIVE PLAN FOR NEIGHBORHOODS CAN FUNCTION. I BELIEVE THAT WE CAN CAN WALK INTO IT AND WE WILL SHOW THAT AS A COMMUNITY THAT WE CAN DO THAT EFFECTIVELY.

>> SORRY, I JUST WANT TO SAY TO ALL OF YOU, EVERYBODY IN THE ROOM, EVERYBODY THAT'S BEEN A PART OF THIS, THIS IS A CITY-LED BY LOVE AND THE IDEA THAT WE CAN DISAGREE, THAT WE CAN HAVE BIG FEELINGS IS IMPORTANT BUT THE MINUTE OUR KIDS WATCH AND YOU SAY THEY SEE WHAT WE DO AND WE INTERACT WITH THE PUBLIC AND WITH EACH OTHER, IT GETS TO THE HEART OF WHAT THE PASTOR WAS TALKING ABOUT, WE HAVE TO DEFEND THE THINGS THAT MATTER TO US, OUR COMMUNITY, OUR LOVED ONES, BE THAT EXAMPLE, SO, I SAY THAT LIKE I'M SO GRATEFUL TO BE UP HERE TO BE A PART OF THESE CONVERSATIONS, TO GET TO HAVE THIS BUT IT CAN BE A LOT.

THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS HAPPENING AND I'M SO PROUD OF AL OF YOU, JEFF INCLUDED, HE'S NOT HERE, FLIGHT ISSUES, STUFF OUTSIDE OF OUR CONTROL, AND I'M PROUD OF THE COMMUNITY FOR COMING AND SHOWING UP. THESE ARE NOT EASY CONVERSATION WES EAR HAVING, THESE ARE THE PLACES WE'VE RAISED OUR CHILDREN, OUR LOVED ONES, OUR DOGS, ALL THE THINGS THAT MATTER TO US. SO, DON'T FOR A MINUTE STOP BRINGING FEEDBACK, BUT DON'T ALSO FOR A MINUTE FORGET THAT WE'RE SETTING A STAGE FOR WHAT IT MEANS TO BE A CARMELITE, A HUMAN, THERE ARE 7 YEAR OLD THAT IS ARE BRILLIANT AND SIT IN THE BACK AOF THE ROOM THAT ARE BRILLIANT AND MY KIDS CANNOT COME, I WOULD LOVE TO BRING THEM.

THIS MATTERS ALMOST AS MUCH AS THE WORK WE ULTIMATELY PUT OUT ON PAPER EVEN IF IT'S A PLAN THAT ENDS UP BEING SOMETHING IN THE FUTURE PEOPLE WILL IGNORE OR WORK AROUND OR WILL NEED TO CHANGE, THE WORK WE DO TODAY TOGETHER WILL ECHO FOR EACH OTHER AND FOR THOSE 7 YEAR -OLDS THAT LAY ON THE FLOOR AND WATCH THEIR COMPUTER EVEN THOUGH THEY DON'T WANT TO BE THERE. SO, THANK YOU, THAT BEING SAID, WE DO HAVE A FEW MORE TWEAKS BASED ON THE PLAN, NONE OF THEM WILL IMPACT THE WORK OR ANY DISCUSSIONS WE'VE HAD SO FAR, THEY WILL MAKE IT BETTER, AND COUNCILOR TAYLOR SHARED WITH ME AFTER MORE DISCUSSIONS, AT SIGNAL PLACES WE NEED TO SEE THINGS IMPROVED AND MAKE THE QUALITY OF LIFE FOR ALL OF US BETTER, SO THANK YOU, DON'T STOP SHOWING UP EVEN IF THERE'S BAD NOTICE, IF WE CAN WORK ON

THAT, THANK YOU FOR MAKING HAD WORTHWHILE. >> SO, A COUPLE OF THE THING, THE MAYOR IS NEVER OBLIGATED TO BE HERE, BUT DOES NEARLY ALWAYS COME, HAD AN UNAVOIDABLE CONFLICT, COUNCIL WORRELL WANTED TO BE HERE, HIS FLIGHT GOT CANCELLED AND THEN CANCELLED AGAIN. SO, HE'S STRANDED AND ANYBODY WHO'S KNOWN JEFF A LONG TIME, I CAN'T COUNT HOW MANY MEETINGS HE'S MISSED ON A FEW FINGERS. SO WE'RE SORRY HE'S NOT HERE.

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NOW I'M CLEAR ON WHERE MY OPINIONS ARE, HOWEVER, GIVEN HOUSE BILL -- THE RECENT HOUSE BILL, IT HAS DONE A LOT OF THINGS, IT'S TRIGGERED A LOT OF ACTIONS THAT NEED TO HAPPEN OVER THE COURSE OF THIS YEAR AND COUNCIL MINNAAR IS LEADING THAT INITIATIVE AND I THINK SHE'S THE RIGHT PERSON O DO IT. SHE KNOWS MORE ABOUT THIS STUFF, SHE READS MORE ABOUT THIS STUFF THAN ANYBODY, SO, IT'S NOT JUST, HEY, COME HEAR THIS GUY SPEAK, IT'S SETTING THE TONE FOR HOW WE'RE GOING TO NAVIGATE MORE MANDATES FROM THE STATE WHILE STILL BEING ABLE PROTECT THE RESIDENTS WHICH IS ULTIMATELY OUR GOAL. SO, AS THIS PROCESS MOVES FORWARD, WE'RE REALLY LEANING ON SHANNON, HER COMMITTEE, THIS WHOLE PROCESS ALONG WITH CITY'S LEGAL STAFF TO HAVE US IN COMPLIANCE, MAKE SURE WE SATISFY THE STATE'S REQUIREMENTS AND DO SO IN A THOUGHTFUL, MEANINGFUL WAY THAT ACCOMPLISHES SOMETHING BUT WITHOUT ANY ADVERSE IMPACT TO THE RESIDENTS OF CARMEL. WHICH BRINGS ME TO THE U.S. 31 SUB PLAN, I ABSOLUTELY LOVE EVERYBODY AT THIS DAIS, THIS FOR SOME REASON, THE FIRSTS THREE MONTHS OF THIS YEAR HAS BEEN A LOT, IT'S BEEN A LOT. REALLY A LOT MORE THAN THE FRST COUPLE OF YEARS OF OUR TERM AND I THINK BECAUSE THERE WAS SO MUCH UNFINISHED BUSINESS FROM LAST YEAR, IT TRANSFERRED OVER, THERE WAS A LOT OF CHANGE AND FRANKLY HOUSE BILL 1001 COMBINE WITCHED SENATE BILL FROM THE PRIOR YEAR HAS CREATED THIS JUST AWFUL STORM WHERE DIGESTING IT ALL HAS BEEN DIFFICULT AND WE'RE ALL COMING AT IT FROM DIFFERENT POINTS OF VIEW ON HOW TO BEST SERVE THE PEOPLE AND THAT SOMETIMES CREATES CONFLICT AMONGST US.

AND WHAT I LOVER ABOUT THESE GUYS, MY COLLEAGUES, IS THAT IT'S VERY BRIEF FLASHES IN THE PANS, COUNCILOR JOSH SHI AND AUS T*IP AND LOCKE AND AYERS IN LAND USE WORKED HARD ON THIS DOCUMENT, WHEN THE DOCUMENT STARTED WITH ME, I HAD A COMPLETE MISCONCEPTION OF WHAT IT WAS AND THAT TAKES SOME VETTING, IT TAKES EDUCATION AND A LOT OF THE MEETINGS ARE EDUCATION, THEN WE GOT TO A SPOT WHERE WE WERE CLOSE AND THERE WAS STILL A DIFFERENCE OF IDEAS BUT IT WAS QUITE CLEAR THAT THE END GOAL WAS THE SAME AND I'M REALLY PROUD OF THE TWO VERY INTELLIGENT VEJTSBACKER GENTLEMEN TO MY RIGHT AND LEFT WHO BOTH SAW THE SAME LIGHT AT THE END OF THIS TUNNEL BUT WITH DIFFERENT WAYS TO GET THERE AND THEY REALLY HASHED IT OUT IN A VERY PRODUCTIVE WAY AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT THE COMMUNITY SHOULD EXPECT FROM ALL OF US ON EVERY ISSUE AND I HOPE -- I TRULY BELIEVE THAT'S WHAT WE PROVIDE IS WE'RE NOT ALL THE EXPERTS ON EVERYTHING BUT WE DO HASH THINGS OUT. WE WORK TOWARDS THE END GOAL AND WE HAVE THOSE UNCOMFORTABLE CONVERSATIONS WITH EACH OTHER, EVEN THOUGH WE'RE GOING TO UPSET THE OTHER INCLINER IT'S NOT PERSONAL ON THAT ISSUE. I'M PROUD TO SERVE WITH EVERYONE UP HERE, BECAUSE OF THE PERSONALITIES UP HERE, I THINK WE DO A GREAT SERVICE FOR THE COMMUNITY AND NO ONE UP HERE CLAIMS TO HAVE ALL THE ANSWERS AND THAT'S WHY THE PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT PIECE IS SO IMPORTANT, BECAUSE EVERY TIME SOMEBODY SPEAKS UP THERE, WE GAIN A LITTLE BIT OF KNOWLEDGE, A TIDBIT WE DIDN'T KNOW, SOMETHING THAT HELPS FORM OUR VIEW AS IT PERTAIN TOS THE GREATEST 55 SQUARE MILES IN THE WORLD.

RECENTLY THE MAYOR PUT OUT A STATEMENT ABOUT SOME RHETORIC ONLINE AND SHE'S NOT HERE TO SPEAK ABOUT IT. I'M GOING TO MAKE A COMMENT. I'M SO PROUD OF THE PEOPLE OF CARMEL, OVER THE LAST FEW MONTHS, I HAVE SEEN DEMONSTRATIONS, I HAVE SEEN

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SO, WE'LL CLEAR THE AIR ON THAT AND CALL IT A BLIP IN THE SYTEM BECAUSE THIS COMMUNITY NEVER CEASE TOS AMAZE ME WITH ITS APPROACH TO CIVICS. TO THE POINT F THE SUB AREA PLAN ONCE MORE, BECAUSE OF SOFM THE EDITS, THERE WON'T BE A VOTE ON THAT TONIGHT, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE IT'S PERFECT. ONE OF THE COMMENTING IT MAY HAVE BEEN COUNCILMAN AASEN, WHILE THE LANGUAGE HAS BEEN REFINED AND AGREED UPON, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THE MAP IS REFLECTIVE OF THAT LAPPING WAJ AND NOT COMPLICATED SINCE 99% ARE GOING TO LOOK AT THE MAP AND NOT READ THE WORDS. I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT'S DONE IN AN APPROPRIATE WAY THAT REFLECT IT IS GRA* GREAT CHANGES THAT DR. JOSHI AND COUNCILOR LOCKE AND TAYLOR CAME TOGETHER AND WROTE, THAT WILL COME BACK AT THE NEXT MEETING AND WE'LL VOTE ON IT THERE.

I'M SURE DOCS WILL PRESENT IT IN ITS ENTIRETY, SO WHEN WE GET TO THAT, WE CAN DISCUSS IT.

IF YOU'RE WAITING ON A VOTE, THE VOTE'S NOT HAPPENING TONIGHT, ALTHOUGH THIS IS THE TIME TIME WE'VE HAD THIS MANY PEOPLE SHOW UP IN SUPPORT OF AN ORDINANCE, SO WITH THAT SAID,

[8. CONSENT AGENDA]

>> MOVE FOR APPROVAL. >> SECOND. >>

>> CLAIM, PAYROLL, 4 MILLION 524 THOUSAND 823 DOLLARS 38 CENTS.

GENERAL CLAIMS, 2 MILLION 272 THOUSAND 92 DOLLARS 87 CENTS. RETIREMENT, 136 THOUSAND 972 DOLLARS 44 CENTS. WIRE TRANSFERS, 2 MILLION 15 THOUSAND 369 DOLLARS 81 CENTS.

>> MOVE FOR APPROVAL. >> SECOND. >> ACTION ON MAYORAL MEET --

[10. COMMITTEE REPORTS]

VETOES, THERE ARE NONE. >> COMMITTEE REPORTS, DR. JOSHI ?FRJTS I THINK WE ALL HEARD ON U.S. 13 3* 1 COMING BACK FROM LAND USE. WE HAVE TWO AGENDA ITEM THAT IS ARE COMING FORWARD TONIGHT, THE FIRST WAS IS ILLINOIS TOWNHOMES PUD WHICH COMES BACK WITH A POSITIVE RECOMMENDATION AND THE RESTORACY PUD WHICH ALSO COMES BACK WITH A POSITIVE RECOMMENDATION AND I WILL WE WILL BE DISCUSSING THOSE LATER THIS EVENING.

OUR NEXT MEETING IS ON WEDNESDAY THIS ACCIDENTER WEDNESDAY AT CARMEL LIBRARY AT 5:30, IT WILL BEGIN AT 5:30, IT WILL END AT 6:30T PURPOSE OF THAT MEETING IS TO HEAR ABOUT THE HOME PLACE SUB AREA PLAN, SO NONE OF THIS IS GOING TO DISSUADE US FROM CONTINUE TOG DO GOOD WORK TOGETHER AS A COMMUNITY AND WE JUST WANT AN OPPORTUNITY TO HEAR ABOUT THE PLAN AND THEN LISTEN TO FEEDBACK, NO DECISIONS WILL BE MADE THAT EVENING, NO OTHER COMMENTS, WE'RE GOING THE WANT TO HEAR FEEDBACK FROM OUR DOCS DEPARTMENT AND ALSO FROM

CITIZENS WOULD WOULD LIKE TO WEIGH IN. >> DR. JOE SH*I?

>> -- JOSHI. >> I SAW SOME OTHER ITEMS THERE,.IF NOT, I WANTED TO

INVITE PEOPLE FOR THOSE TOPICS. >> I DO NOT THINK AT THIS MEET HATING WE WILL GET THERE, I'M

SORRY, BUT WE WILL GET THERE. >> NO, I WOULD RA*ERT, YES, TOTALLY ON THE SAME PAGE.

>> SO, TAYLOR. >> CAN I MAKE ONE COMMENT, JUST TO CORRECT THE RECORD,

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>> BUT NOT FROM LAND USE. >> YES, IT WAS A 2-1 POSITIVE RECOMMENDATION AS MY

RECOLLECTION, JESSICA, DO YOU HAVE THAT? >> I SINCERELY APOLL JIE,Z MY RECOLLECTION WAS A LITTLE DIFFERENT BUT APPARENTLY I WASN'T THERE.

>> NO, WE WERE ALL DOING A GOOD JOB THAT EVENING, DON'T WORRY. >> HIS NAME IS SER GA*I, YOU CAN FIND HIM ON THE LAW DEPARTMENT WEBSITE. COUNCILOR TAYLOR?

>> THANK YOU, PRESIDENT SNYDER, ON WEDNESDAY MARCH 11, WE MET TO DISCUSS ONE ITEM, ORDINANCE D-2811-26, IT IS NOT AN INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECT TELEVISING'S BEEN SOME INFORMATION THAT'S BEEN GETTING CONFUSE WITCHED THE AUTUMN TRAIL, IT'S ONE CHANGE IN THE ORDINANCE ON LINE 29, CHANGING NO PERSON SHALL PARK VEHICLE AT ANY TIME IN THE FOLLOWING LOCATIONS FROM ON BOTH SIDES OF AUTUMN DRIVER TO ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF AUTUMN DRIVE, SO THERE BEING -- THE INTENTION IS TO REMOVE THE SIGNS THERE ON THE NORTH SIDE OF AUTUMN DRIVE THAT SAY NO PARKING AT ALL AND ADD A SIGN THAT SAYS PARKING IS ALLOWED WITH THE REQUIRED BUFFERS FROM BOTH ENTRANCES OF THE ROAD. THAT WAS PASSED WITH A POSITIVE RECOMMENDATION TO COME BACK TO THE COUNCIL. HOWEVER, I'VE BEEN IN DISCUSSION WITH A COUPLE OF RESIDENTS OVER THERE AND ONE ASKED ME IN AN E-MAIL IN THE AFTERNOON WHETHER OR NOT IT WAS GONG TO BE ON THE AGENDA THAT EVENING, I DID NOT SEE THAT E-MAIL, DID NOT RESPOND, ENGINEERING AND US HAD BEEN TALKING REGULARLY.

I OFFERED MY CELL PHONE NUMBERS FOR THEM TO SPEAK WITH ME. ARE THESE -- ARE OUR FINANCE

COMMITTEE MEETINGS -- >> THE MEETING WAS NOTICED ON THE 6TH.

>> BUT ARE WE NOT INCLUDING THOSE ON THE -- >> WE ARE INCLUDING THEM ON THE WEBSITE, I UPLOADED IT ON THE 4TH. I UPLOADED IT AS A NOTICE/AGENDA AND I THOUGHT BETTER OF IT AND I MOVED IT TO THE JEP DA SLOT, IT SHOULD HAVE

STILL BEEN THERE, THE EXACT SAME DOCUMENT FOR ANYONE TO SEE. >> OKAY, WELL SEINING ALL THIS, WHEN WE GET TO ORDINANCE, I'M GOIPG TO MAKE A MOTION SINCE IT'S BEEN OUT OF COMMITTEE AND PUT BACK TO THE FULL COUNCIL, I'M GOING THE MAKE A MOTION TO REQUEST THAT BE SENT BACK TO FINANCE COMMITTEE TO ALLOW THOSE COUPLE RESIDENCES THAT MISSED THAT MEETING TO COME AND SPEAK. SO, THAT'S WHAT I WILL DO ONCE WE GET TO THAT ITEM ON THE AGENDA. BUT AGAIN WE'RE JUST REMOVING SIGNS ON THE NORTH SIDE OF AUTUMN DRIVE THAT SAY NO SPRINGING, THERE IS ALREADY STREET PARKING ON THAT ROAD, FURTHER DOWN IT'S FOR RESIDENTS ONLY AND WE'RE LOOKING TO REMOVE THOSE SIGNS AND ALLOW NO PARKING ON THE SOUTH SIDE BUT IT WILL BE ABOUT 10 SPOTS THAT WOULD BE ALLOWED ON THE NORTH SIDE OF AUTUMN DRIVE PER THE REQUEST OF THE ADMINISTRATION AND ENGINEERING.

SO WE'LL BRING -- HOPEFULLY IF YOU GUYS AGREE WILL VOTE WITH ME AND BRING THIS BACK TO COMMITTEE. WE HAVE OUR NEXT FINANCE COMMITTEE MEETING ON TUESDAY APRIL 14, THAT'S AT 5:30, IS THAT CORRECT, JESSICA? AT 5:30 HERE IN THE COUNCIL

CHAMBERS. >> CORRECT. >> THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU, COUNCILOR TAYLOR. JESSICA, IS THERE -- DO WE HAVE LIKE A LIST, A SIGN -UP LIST SO

PEOPLE GET PUBLIC NOTICE E E-MAILS? >> IT IS A THING, ANYONE WHO WOULD LIKE TO BE ON MY MASTER DISTRIBUTION LIST CAN REACH TOUT THE CLERK'S OFFICE AND I WILL ADD THEIR PREFERRED E-MAIL. ADDITIONALLY WITH OUR NEW WEBSITE, SWRE A FEATURE WHERE YOU CAN SUBSCRIBE TO GET AN E-MAIL NOTICE WHEN SOMETHING NEW IS UPLOADED FOR SPECIFIC GROUPS, SO IF PERHAPS YOU'RE INTERESTED IN PLAN COMMISSION BUT NOT DZA, WHAT HAVE YOU, YOU CAN CHOOSE WHICH YOU WOULD LIKE TO GET AN E-MAIL NOTICE WHEN SOMETHING NEW IS UPLOADED.

>> SO, GENERAL COMMENT MAYBE IN ONE OF OUR FUTURE MEETINGS, THE WEBSITE IS A MONUMENTAL EFFORT, REDOING IT, BUT MAYBE WHIT'S IN THE CLOSE TO FINISH STAGE, HERE'S HOW YOU STAY CONNECTED

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BEING INUNDATES WITH SPAM. >> HOW CAN THEY SIGN UP FOR THE E-MAIL NOTIFICATIONS?

>> THEY CAN E-MAIL ME SPECIFICALLY OR YOU CAN GO TO THE CLERK'S WEBSITE.

THE CLERK PORTION O OF THE WEBSITE AND FIND OUR TELEPHONE LINE THA. WILL GET ROUTED TO ME AND I CAN SPEAK TO THAT PERSON. I DID SEND OUT SPECIFIC INSTRUCTIONS ON HOW TO SIGN UP FOR THESE SUBSCRIPTIONS IN AN E-MAIL LIST THAT WENT TO THE PEOPLE WHO ARE ALREADY ON THE E-MAIL LIST, SO I CAN MAYBE FIND A WAY TO MAKE THAT PUBLIC ON OUR CLERK'S PAGE AND THAT

COULD HELP PEOPLE FIGURE OUT HOW TO DO IT. >> THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL.

>> I HEARD SOME TALK ABOUT MOVING AWAY FROM LASER FISH INTO SOMETHING ELSE, NO, DARN.

BUT THE CITY CODES, IS THAT CHANGE CANNING AT ALL, I HAD HEARD ABOUT MAYBE THE SEARCH

FOR THAT MIGHT BECOME EASIER, IS THAT A THING? >> WE WILL BE MOVING FROM OUR CURRENT HOST, OUR CURRENT WEBSITE HOST TO CIVIC PLUS, CIVIC PLUS IS THE PLATFORM THAT OUR NEW WEBSITE IS ON. IT'S GOING TO BE QUITE USER FRIENDLY I BELIEVE, SO THAT --

WE EXPECT THAT TRANSITION TO HAPPEN MID YEAR, JUNE, JULY. >> SO, MAYBE JUNE, JULY, IF WE COULD JUST GET A GENERAL CLERK'S UPDATE SINCE YOU GUYS ARE THE UNDERRECOGNIZED DEPARTMENT, OTHER BODY OF GOVERNMENT, IT WOULD BE A GOOD TIME TO SHOWCASE WHAT YOU DO AND SOME OF THE GREAT CHANGES YOU HAVE MADE OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS TO MAKE IT EASIER FOR THE PUBLIC TO NAVIGATE ABOUT EVERYTHING IN THE CITY.

>> SOUNDS LIKE A GREAT IDEA. ER >> THANK YOU.

>> THAT'S AWESOME. >> OKAY. OLD BUSINESS, 20TH READING OF D-2772-25 REMAINS IN COMMITTEE. TENTH RAOE,D ORDINANCE D-2795-25 REMAIN INS COMMITTEE.

[12.c. Third Reading of Ordinance D-2811-26; An Ordinance of the Common Council of the City of Carmel, Indiana, Amending Chapter 8, Article 5, Section 8-47 of the Carmel City Code; Sponsors: Councilors Taylor and Worrell. Sent to the Finance, Utilities and Rules Committee. (Meeting date 3/11/26)]

THIRD READING OF ORDINANCE D-2811-26, COUNCILOR TAYLOR? >> I WOULD MAKE A MOTION TO

MOVE THIS BACK TO FINANCE COMMITTEE. >> SECOND.

>> THANK YOU. THIS DID REQUIRE -- BECAUSE I DIDN'T THINK SO AND THEN I WAS ADVISED BY SER GA*I, SO TAKE THAT FOR WHAT IT'S WORTH.

I'M JUST KIDDING, WE LOVE SER GA*I, BECAUSE THERE WAS ACTION ON IT IN COMMITTEE, THERE HAD TO BE ACTION ON IT IN COUNCIL. IF NOTHING IS DONE AT COMMITTEE, IT COMES BACK AND THE ORIGINAL RECOMMENDATION HOLDS, IF SOMETHING IS EDITED IN COMMITTEE, VOTED TO BE REOPENED IN A NEW RECOMMENDATION VOTE WOULD BE HAD IN COMMITTEE, SO JUST EXTRA WORDS, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE DOING IT RIGHT. RESOLUTION CC-11-17-25-03.

[12.d. Resolution CC-11-17-25-03; A Resolution of the Common Council of the City of Carmel, Indiana, Approving an Amendment to the Carmel Comprehensive Plan to Incorporate a new Subarea Plan for the US-31 Corridor; Sponsor: Councilor Minnaar. Returns from the Land Use and Special Studies Committee.]

[12.e. Resolution CC-12-01-25-04; A Resolution of the Common Council of the City of Carmel, Indiana, Approving an Amendment to the Carmel Comprehensive Plan to Incorporate a New Subarea Plan for the Home Place Area; Sponsor: Councilor Minnaar. Remains in the Land Use and Special Studies Committee.]

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REMAIN INS COMMITTEE. ER >> WHAT ARE YOU DOING AT NEXT LAND USE? . THESINGER RESOLUTION AMEND IT IS CARMEL PLAN TO INCORPORATE A NEW PLAN FOR THE NEW AREA FOR STREET TIP POLLING AND IS THE

MOBILITY AND PEDESTRIAN PLAN MAP. >> THANK YOU.

AND THAT WILL BE DISCUSSED THIS COMING WEDNESDAY AT LAND USE, 5:30 AT THE LIBRARY.

[12.f. Third Reading of Ordinance Z-703-26; An Ordinance of the Common Council of the City of Carmel, Indiana, Establishing The Illinois Street Townhomes Planned Unit Development District; Sponsor: Councilor Aasen. Returns from the Land Use and Special Studies Committee.]

ADAM AASEN, SPONSOR, WOULD YOU READ THE SYNOPSIS, PLEASE. >> SURE, THIS ORDINANCE ESTABLISHES THE ILLINOIS STREET TOWNHOMES PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT, THE ILLINOIS STROET TOWNHOMES PUD, THE ORDINANCE WOULD REZONE THE REAL ESTATE FROM MERIDIAN CORRIDOR DISTRICT TO A PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT ALLOWING THE DEVELOPMENT OF A RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD LAID OUT IN THE STYLE AND CHARACTER AS DEPICTED ON THE CONCEPT PLAN

WHICH INCLUDES FOR-SALE TOWNHOMES. >> GOOD EVENING, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL, FOR THE RECORD, ZACK BERTAN WITH POLTY HOMES, NORTH MERIDIAN.

THANKS AGAIN FOR THE LAND USE COMMITTEE, WE WORKED ON ARCHITECTURE CAN AND THEN TALKED THROUGH VARIOUS OTHER ITEMS. WHAT YOU SEE HERE IS THE SITE PLAN, 27 TOWNHOMES FOR SALE LOCATED ALONG A SINGLE DRIVE, VARIOUS SIX UNIT, 5 AND 4 UNIT BUILDING CONFIGURATIONS. A SIGNIFICANT UPGRADE FROM OUR INITIAL PROPOSAL, WE HAVE ADDED MULTIPLE PLAYERS OF BRICK AS WELL AS ONE STONE ELEVATION GOING FROM TWO TO ALMOST ONE AND A HALF STRUCTURALLY, WE CANNOT PUT BRICK BEMIND THE BUMP OUT.

THREE STORIES AND SO ON. WE'VE ALSO ADJUSTED THE STOOPS TO LINE UP WHICH CREATES MORE GREEN SPACE BETWEEN THE UNITS. THE SIDE FACADE AND REAR FACADE HAVE BEEN UP GRA*IT GRADED.

YOU CAN SEE WE HAVE MOVED FROM ONE STORY OF BRICK ON THE SIDE ELEVATIONS TO TWO AND WE'VE ALSO ADDED A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF WINDOWS, WE'RE UP TO ONE STORY ON THE REAR ELEVATION AND THE NEAT THING ABOUT THE REAR ELEVATION IS IT IS REQUIRED TO MATCH THE FRONT IN THE WAY OF COLOR AND MATERIAL, SO IF YOU SEE BOARD AND BATTEN ON THE FRONT FACADE, YOU WILL ALSO SEE ON THE REAR, THE MASONRY COLORS MATCH AS WELL. WITH THAT, WE'D ASK FOR A

FAVORABLE VOTE FROM THE COUNCIL, THANK YOU. >> WHAT'S YOUR TIMELINE FOR

CONSTRUCTION? >> IF IT WERE TO GET APPROVED, WHEN DID YOU WANT THE BREAK

GROUND? >> WE WOULD FILE FOR PRIMARY PLAT AND GO THROUGH THOSE PROCESSES IF WE GOT APROVED TONIGHT, IDEALLY BREAK GROUND NOVEMBER 1.

>> THANK YOU SO MUCH, MR. BURTON, FOR YOUR ORIENTATION, I'M HAPPY YOU CHANGED THE MASONRY FROM WHAT IT WAS ORIGINALLY AFTER IT CAME OUT OF PLANNING COMMISSION, I TOLD YOU YOU WOULD GET BEATEN UP BY THAT COMMITTEE AND YOU CERTAINLY DID, SO THANK YOU FOR THAT, ONE OF THE THINGS I DID WANT TO BRING UP TO COUNCIL AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE EVERYONE'S WARE, ONE OF THE THINGS I DID ASK FOR SPECIFICALLY WHICH YOU GUYS AGREE TODAY, SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH, THERE ARE RENTAL RESTRICTIONS THAT ARE THE SAME RENTAL RESTRICTIONS THAT ARE ASSOCIATED WITH 146TH STREET IN TOWN, FOR ME THAT'S IMPORTANT BECAUSE HOME OWNERSHIP IS IMPORTANT AND SO I WANT TO JUST THANK YOU FOR THAT, I APPRECIATE IT.

>> I ALSO APPRECIATE ALL THE HARD WORK AND THE RAILINGS WERE ALSO ADDED, I BELIEVE THAT WAS AN ADDITIONAL ADD THAT YOU MADE FROM A SAFETY STANDPOINT GOING UP THE STAIRS ADDING STAIRS ON BOTH SIDES FOR PEOPLE WHO MIGHT NEED HELP GETTING UP THE STAIR SOS ANOTHER SAFETY MODIFICATION

WE APPRECIATED AND THANK YOU AGAIN. >> SO, AGAIN, THANK YOU, I'LL BE VOTING FOR THIS TONIGHT. I VOTED NO AT PLAN COMMISSION, I VOTED YES AT LAND USE COMMITTEE AND THIS IS WHERE THE PROCESS CAN GET CONFUSING WHERE YOU HAVE PLANNING COMMISSION OR

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A NEGATIVE RECOMMENDATION WHICH I KNEW THERE WAS FIVE OTHER VOTES, SO I THINK IT WAS THE SIXTH VOTE, IT WOULDN'T HAVE MADE THE DIFFERENCE, BUT WHAT THE GOAL THERE WAS, CAN WE GET MAYBE SOME IMPROVEMENT INS THE PROJECT WHICH I'M GOING TO GIVE BIG CREDIT TO PRK ULTI, WHEN WE SAID WE'D LIKE TO SEE SOME IMPROVE MASONRY, THEY REACTED AND DEFINITELY DELIVERED ON THAT WITH SOME ARCHITECTURE THERE, SO, SOMETIMES THESE PROCESSES, THEY START OFF, OKAY, WE'RE NOT THERE YET, THERE'S A NEGATIVE RECOMMENDATION BUT THEN WHEN YOU WORK TOGETHER, YOU CAN GET A REALLY NICE PROJECT ACROSS THE FINISH LINE BUT I THINK

IT'S GOING TO BENEFIT A LOT OF PEOPLE, SO THANK YOU. >> I JUST WANT TO REITERATE WHAT COUNCILOR AENDER SAID, THE PROCESS THROUGH PLANNING COMMISSION, PLANNING COMMISSION WAS TOUGH, REQUESTED A LOT, AND PULTI WORKED THROUGH, TOOK THAT FEEDBACK AND WENT TO LAND USE, MORE FEEDBACK, MORE REQUESTS AND OVER THE COURSE OF TIME THIS ACCIDENTER PROJECT'S REALLY COME A LOPING WAY THROUGH THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND LAND SXWRAOUS THE FEEDBACK I HAVE GOTTEN FROM CONSTITUENTS HAS ALL BEEN POSITIVE SO I PRAOESHL APPRECIATE THE WORK THAT EVERYBODY PUT IN TO GET THE PROJECT WHERE IT IS TODAY. . IFER THERE'S NO FURTHER

DISCUSSION, I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE TO APPROVE THIS PUD. >> SECOND.

>> THANK YOU. ITEM G, THIRD READING OF ORDINANCE Z-704-26FINGER AN

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TO READ THE SYNOPSIS AGAIN. >> SURE, DO WE NEED TO READ THE WHOLE THING INTO THE RECORD? I'LL JUST DO IT. ORDINANCE ESTABLISHES AN AMENDMENT TO THE GREEN HOUSE COTTAGES OF CARMEL PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT ORDINANCE NUMBER Z-594-14 WHICH AMENDMENT SHALL BE REFERRED TO AS Z-704-26 GREEN HOUSE COTTAGES CARMEL AMENDMENT ORDINANCE, THIS Z-704-26 GREEN HOUSE COTTAGES PUD AMENDMENT, AMENDS CERTAIN PROVISIONS OF THE ORIGINAL GREEN HOUSE COTTAGES CARMEL PUD ORDINANCE. THAT IS VERY LEGAL EASE BUT

THANK YOU. >> YOU READ IT VERY WELL. GOOD EVENING, COUNCILOR, MY NAME IS RACHEL CONNOR, I'M AN ATTORNEY WITH DETON'S, OUR ADDRESS IS 10 WEST MARKET STREET, SUITE 2700 IN INDIANAPOLIS, I'M HERE REPRESENT THING PETITIONER, MBR CARMEL SXH*ELT THE RESTORY -- HEALTH AND RESTORACY, YOU HAVE SEEN KYLE BEFORE, I'LL TRY TO DO AS WELL AS HE MIGHT. SO, WE'RE ALSO JOINED TONIGHT BY RYAN PLAINED LINDSAY WHO'S THE DIRECT OR OF OPERATIONS AND ONE OF THE CROONERS OF THE RESTORACY.

WE ARE PLEASED TO BE BACK BEFORE THE FULL COUNCIL TONIGHT AFTER THE PETITION RECEIVED A FAVORABLE RECOMMENDATION, MY GUY, -- SER GA*I, FROM THE LAND USE AND SPECIAL STUDIES COMMITTEE AS WELL ASS THE PLANNING COMMISSION. I'VE GOT A COUPLE OF EXHIBITS TO SHOW JUST AS A REMINDER TO EVERYONE THAT THIS IS THE WAY THE PROJECT APPEARS, MAYBE THIS LOOKS A LITTLE BIT BETTER, HERE WE GO. THIS PRELIMINARY SITE PLAN

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ONE THING I CERTAINLY WANT TO SHOW COMING OUT OF COMMITTEE ARE THE CHANGES TO THE LANDSCAPE PLAN. THIS IS THE CONCEPTUAL BUFFER LANDSCAPE PLAN, IT HAS BEEN AFFIXED AS EXHIBIT E TO THE RESTORACY PUD ORDINANCE AND REFERENCES SEVERAL PLACES THROUGHOUT THE DOCUMENT. YOU CAN SEE HERE THAT THERE ARE -- THE RED LINE IS THE PROPOSED FENCING. THERE ARE A COUPLE OF EXAMPLES OF POTENTIAL FENCING OPTIONS.

THE FENCE WILL BE 6 FEET TALL AND BE OF A NATURAL COLOR WOOD. WE ALSO SHOW ON HERE A SUBSTANTIAL NUMBER OF NEW TREES THAT WILL BE INSTALLED. THERE ARE GREEN TREES CIRCLED, THOSE ARE TREES THAT ARE EXISTING AND WILL STAY. SOME OF THE EXISTING TREE WILLS COME OUT BECAUSE THEY'VE BEEN DAMAGING OVER TIME THROUGH UTILITY MAINTENANCE WHICH IS JUST -- CAUSED ENOUGH DAMAGE WHICH THOSE TREE ARES NO LONGER HEALTHY, SOME TREES WILL COME OUT, IN EXCESS OF 200 NEW TREES WILL GO IN. I SPOKE ON THE FACT THAT THE PROPOSED FENCING WILL BE COMPOSITE WOOD OR A SIMILAR MATERIAL IN BROWN OR A NATURAL COLOR, AND THE FENCING IS SHOWN IN RED. THAT FENCING WILL BLOCK THE BACK PATIO AREAS OF THE PROPOSED TWO NEW COTTAGES AS WELL AS THE DRIVE AND PARK AREA.

AT THE REQUEST OF THE CITY'S ENGINEERING STAFF, WE REVISED THE PETITIONER'S COMMITMENTS TO ALSO REFERENCE AN OBLIGATION TO DEDICATE A 50 FOOT PATH RIGHT-OF-WAY ALONG CITY CENTER DRIVE AND AN ADDITIONAL RIGHT-OF-WAY SHOWN SOUTHEAST OF THE NEW RAIN GARDEN, THE TRIANGULAR POLYGON SHAPE TWAORDS THE BOTTOM. THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT REQUESTED THOSE CHANGES AND WE HAVE NO OBJECTION SO, THOSE HAVE BEEN MADE AND UPDATED TO YOU AND I BELIEVE PRINTED COPIES OF OUR COMMITMENT RKTS BOTH KLAOEP AND REDLINE WERE PROVIDED TO ALL OF YOU. SO WE BELIEVE THE WRITTEN AND ORAL RECORD AND THE ORDINANCE DOCK MS AS REVISED SATISFY THE STANDARDS UPON WHICH THE COUNCIL MUST COMPLY, WE ASK THAT YOU DO APPROVE THESE TWO PETITIONS AND I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AS I CAN

BEFORE YOU TAKE ACTION. >> I CAN GO. THE COUNCIL HAS NO STANDARD TO THE APPLY OTHER THAN THE PROTECTION OF THE RESIDENTS OF CARMEL.

>> UNDERSTOOD. >> SO, IT WAS SAID TO ME AT THE VERY FIRST -- MY VERY FIRST INTERACTION THAT THERE WAS NO KNOWLEDGE OF THIS PROPOSED ROAD AND THAT AMONG OTHER THINGS HAS DRIVEN A LOT OF CONVERSATION AROUND THIS PROJECT BUT THE FIRST RECORD OF THIS ROAD BEING DISCUSSED WAS IN 1988, THEN IT WAS MENTIONED IN CORRIDO STUDIES IN MID 90'S IDENTIFIES THE NEED OF ADDITIONAL GRADE CONNECTIONS. THEN IT WAS FORMALLY INCORPORATED IN 2008 INTO BOTH THE COMPREHENSIVE AND TRANSPORTATION PLAN.

THEN IT WAS RECONFIRMED AGAIN IN 2022 INTO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

CARMEL ELEMENTARY ALIGNED THEIR BUILDING AND CONSTRUCTED ROAD TO ACCOUNT FOR THIS ROAD AS DID THE LIBRARY. AND I SAY ALL THIS BECAUSE ALMOST ALL THE BLUE CARD COMMENTS TONIGHT WERE ABOUT BEING INTENTIONAL AND WHETHER SOMETHING TAKES A LONG TIME OR NOT, WE ARE INTENTIONAL ABOUT OUR PLANNING. NOW WE HAD -- WE DO TRY NOT TO

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WELL, MY OPINION ON THE ROAD DOESN'T SO MUCH MATTER, IT'S THE CITY'S OPINION AND THE CITY, MANY, MANY YEARS AGO, PUT THIS INTO A PLAN AND THE CITY HAS MADE A COMMITMENT TO INCREASING ITS GRID STRUCTURE WHEREVER IT CAN. THE REASON WHY IT'S IMPORTANT HERE IS CURRENTLY YOU HAVE AN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL THAT DEAD ENDS WHICH IS A PUBLIC SAFETY CONCERN, WE FORCED THE SCHOOL TO ALIGN A CERTAIN WAY TO ACCOMMODATE THIS ROAD.

THE LIBRARY AS WELL. NOW, THERE'S ALSO 150 REZ SIDENTS HOMES IN THE CARMEL VIEW NEIGHBORHOOD ARE PUTTING UP WITH TRAFFIC THAT HAS NO WAY TO GET OUT, THAT TRAFFIC HAS INCREASED WITH THE NEW ELEMENTARY SCHOOL BECAUSE OF DAD'S CLUB AND AFTER SCHOOL ACTIVITIES AND EVERYTHING ELSE, IT'S JUST A BUSY PLACE, SO I DO SUPPORT THIS ROAD.

NOW, OTHERS MAY NOT AND THAT'S COMPLETELY FINE, BUT IT'S STILL IN OUR PLAN, SO AS LONG AS IT'S IN OUR PLAN, I WANT TO TREAT IT AS IF IT'S BEING BUILT TOMORROW. WITHOUT RESTORACY, THAT ROAD CAN MISS THREE HOUSES, AND I DO THINK THE RESTORACY EXPANSION COULD HAVE WORKED, I THINK IT COULD HAVE BEEN DESIGN INED A WAY THAT ADDED THE SAME NUMBER OF BEDS OR MORE FRANKLY AND ACHIEVED BOTH THEIR GOAL AND OUR GOAL AT PROTECTING THE RESIDENTS.

THEY'VE GOT PROPOSED RAIN GARDENS FOR THEIR STORMWATER. NOW WE HEARD TONIGHT FROM PEOPLE THAT ARE BEING ABSOLUTELY DEVASTATED BY STORMWATER.

NOW, THIS WASN'T CAUSED BY PHASE 1 OF RESTORACY OR COTTAGE HOMES.

IT WASN'T CAUSED BY THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL IN MY OPINION. THEY ALL WOULD HAVE BEEN REQUIRE TODAY SUBMIT DRAINAGE REPORTS THAT ENGINEERING WOULD HAVE SIGNED OFF ON.

BUT IF WE LOOK BACK WHERE CARMEL LIMIT SCHOOL IS, IT'S UP FIELD WHERE I GREW UP PLAYING BASEBALL, THERE WAS NO WATER SO EXISTINGWATER HAD SOMEWHERE TO GO.

THERE WAS A CONVEYANCE OF WATER THAT WOULD RUN WHERE THE COTTAGES ARE NOW.

SO, WHILE THE INDEPENDENTLY SATISFIED THE NEEDS OF ENGINEERING WOULD HAPPEN SO MANY TIMES IS IT'S THE LAST MAN STAND HATING REAPS THE DEVASTATION OR IN THIS CASE THE FIRST PEOPLE. NOW, THERE ARE HUGE STORMWATER ISSUES THAT CANNOT BE ATTRIBUTED TO THE DEVELOPMENT AROUND, ITS AGE, ITS NEGLECT OF YEARS AND YEARS OF A SYSTEM THAT IS JUST BEYOND CAPACITY AND NEEDS REPAIR. ONE OF THE POTENTIAL SOLUTIONS THAT HAS BEEN BROUGHT UP TO ME BY ENGINEERING WAS THIS NEW ROAD COULD BE IN TANDEM WITH THE STORMWATER PROJECT. IT COULD COVER UP A NEW TRUNK LINE, IT COULD STORE WATER UNDERNEATH IT. BUT THE RAIN GARDEN IN MY CAREER, I HAVE NEVER MET AN ENGINEER WITH A STRAIGHT FACE THAT A RAIN GARDEN IS A LONG TERM SOLUTION TO STORMWATER.

THE REASON THEY'RE IN THE PLANS IS BECAUSE THE ENGINEERS CAN PASS THE RED FACE PLAN SAYING WITH PROPER MAINTENANCE THEY ARE A LONG TERM SOLUTION. I HAVE NEVER SEEN ANYONE DO THE APPROPRIATE MAINTENANCE, I HAVE NEVER SEEN A VAC TRUCK ANYWHERE AT ANY EXISTING RAIN GARDEN SO

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THAT'S WHERE I STAND ON IT. I THINK THAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD, THE LEXINGTON NEIGHBORHOOD HAS BEEN NEGLECTED FOR SO LONG AND WE ARE WORKING HARD, I KNOW COUNCILOR AYERS HAS BEEN SPEAKING WITH SOME OF THE HOME OWNS, THERE'S GOING TO BE A TOWN HALL COMING UP HERE IN THE NEAR FUTURE BECAUSE EVERY TIME WE SAY WE'RE GOING TO DO SOMETHING, TO THE SPEAKER'S POINT, IT'S NEXT YEAR, AND MY HOPE IS WE COULD FIX IT ALL AT ONCE AND THAT MIGHT NOT BE IT, THESE HOME ARES CONTINUING TO FLOOD ON A DAILY BASIS. I THINK UNTIL WE SOLVE THEIR PROBLEMS, WE PROBABLY SHOULDN'T DO ANYTHING THAT'S GOING TO EXACERBATE THE ISSUE.

>> THANK YOU, PRESIDENT SNYDER. I AGREE WITH ALL OF THE THINGS YOU'RE SAYING AND MY CONCERN IS AND ALWAYS WILL BE THE HEALTH AND WELLBEING OF THESE CURRENT RESIDENTS AND THEY HAVE BEEN -- OR OF ALL RESIDENTS, BUT THEY HAVE BEEN PASSED ALONG FOR YEARS AND I WOULD LIKE TO SEE

THIS ISSUE FIXED BEFORE ANYTHING ELSE MOVES ON FURTHER. >> MR. PRESIDENT, SO, I VOTED YES AT PLANNING COMMISSION AND I VOTED YES AT LAND USE AND I'M STILL ON THE FENCE TODAY BECAUSE THERE ARE TWO ISSUES THAT I SEEP SEE ON THIS. ON THE ONE SIDE, I SEE THE DESPERATE NEED FOR MORE FACILITIES LIKE THESE IN CARMEL. IT IS VERY IMPORTANT THAT WE HAVE PLACES FOR PEOPLE TO AGE IN PLACE IN OUR COMMUNITY, IT CAN BE US ONE DAY, OUR PARENTS AND HAVING THAT IS VERY IMPORTANT AND THE DEMAND IS THERE.

THEY HAVE BEEN A GOOD PARTNER WITH THEIR EXISTING PROPERTY BUT AT THE SAME TIME, I DO FEEL FOR THE NEIGHBORS HERE. THAT'S PART OF THE REASON WHY WHILE I'M NOT SOLD ON THE ROAD, AND TO BE FAIR TO COUNCILOR SNYDER, I DID THINK IT WAS IMPORTANT TO HAVE THE RIGHT OF WAY IN THERE BECAUSE I DON'T BELIEVE IN CLOSEING THE DOOR TO THE ROAD, IT'S IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND IT CAN BE SOMETHING THAT COULD POSSIBLY WORK.

MY FEARS OF THE MOMENT S NIGER TAKING HOMES, YOU KNOW, WE'VE NEVER HAD A NOEMENT THE HISTORY OF CARMEL WHERE WE'VE TAKEN HOMES UNLESS SOMEONE WANTED TO SELL THEIR PROPERTY.

WE EVER NEVER USED IMMINENT DOMAIN TO FORCIBLY TAKE A HOME FROM SOMEONE.

I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD START DOING THAT. OF COURSE THIS IS ALSO A ROAD WE DON'T HAVE FUNDING FOR AT THE MOMENT, WE DON'T HAVE A PLAN FOR AT THE MOMENT.

SO I WASN'T EAGER TO TO HAVE THIS DEBATE ON THE ROAD AND I DON'T KNOW IF PAOM WANT TO HAVE A ROAD THROUGH THEIR BACKYARD EVEN IF THEIR HOME IS PRESERVED, BUT THE PETITIONER DID BRING IT SXUP HIGHLIGHTED IT QUITE OFTEN, THE MAPS KIND OF FORCED OUR HAND TO HAVE THIS CONVERSATION ABOUT THE ROAD, IN ORDER TO ACCOMMODATE ITS POSSIBILITY, YOU KNOW, I WAS CONCERNED ABOUT DOES THAT LIMIT OUR ABILITY TO ADD MORE STORMWATER RESOURCS HERE.

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>> THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR PRESENTATION. A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.

I THINK I HEARD AT LAND USE COMMITTEE AND YOU CAN CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, THE BEDS, THOSE ARE IMPORTANT, I TOTALLY AGREE WITH THAT. WE NEED MORE BEDS, BUT I WANT TO ASK YOU SPECIFICALLY AND I WANT TO REFRESH MY MEMORY, DO YOU HAVE A WAITING LIST AT YOUR

CURRENT FACILITIES? >> YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT CARMEL PREFERENCE?

>> NEW YORK CITY I WANT TO ASK YOU DO YOU HAVE A WAITING LIST? >> YES, THERE IS A WAITING LIST

AT THE CURRENT FACILITIES. THERE IS A DEMAND FOR MORE BEDS. >> CORRECT.

IS THERE A PREFERENCE FOR CARMEL? >> THERE IS NOT NOW BUT THERE IS GOING TO BE GOING FORWARD, AT LAND USE COMMITTEE, KYLE TESTIFIED, MY CO-COUNSEL, WE DID NOT HAVE THAT IN PLACE BECAUSE IT HAS NOT BEEN IN PLACE, THAT IS GOING TO BE CHANGED GOING FORWARD SUCH THAT IF ALL THINGS ARE EVEN AND SOMEONE DOES NOT HAVE AN IMMEDIATE HEALTH NEED FOR A BED SUCH THAT SOMEONE IS IN DANGER IN THEIR HOME AND NEEDS SKILLED NURSING IMMEDIATELY, IF ALL THINGS ARE EVEN BETWEEN TWO APPLICANTS AND EXISTING CARMEL

RESIDENT WILL GET PREFERENCE OVER A NON-CARMEL RESIDENT. >> WITH THE WAITING LIST YOU

HAVE RIGHT NOW, YOU COULD FILL THOSE BEDS IMMEDIATELY? >> HOW MANY PEOPLE DO YOU HAVE?

>> THAT'S WHY AOEM ASKING. >> YOU LIKE TO ASK HIM TO COME UP HERE?

>> YES, I'M JUST CURIOUS. >> MY NAME IS BRYAN LINDSAY, EVERY MOTHER WE TURN AWAY 80 RESIDENTS OR APPLICANTS O COME STAY WITH US, THE SIDE OF THE WAITING LIST IS A THOUSAND PEOPLE, WE'RE TURNING CLOSE TO A THOUSAND PEOPLE AWAY EVERY YEAR.

DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION? >> YES. >> ARE THERE OTHER QUESTIONS?

>> NO, THAT ANSWERS MY QUESTION, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> GO AHEAD.

ER >> A LITTLE MORE PRAGMATICALLY, AS WE LOOK AT PROCESS TONIGHT TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT TOE DO, IS THERE AN OPENNESS TO HAVE MORE DISCUSSION ABOUT HOW TO SHAPE THIS? AND OBVIOUSLY THERE IS A WATER ISSUE THAT WE'VE SEEN, I PULLED UP ALL THE HISTORICAL APSES UP HERE AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE TIMELINE BASED ON THE E MAUL THAT I WAS FORWARDED THIS AFTERNOON AND THE BILL, THE ONLY THING THAT CHANGED IN THAT TIMEFRAME WAS THE ADDITION OF THE PROPERTY AS IT STANDS TODAY WHICH THEN TRIGGERED JUST -- I DON'T HAVE DATE OTHER THAN WHAT I HAVE JUST LOOKED AT ON THE GRK IS SYSTEM TO SEE THEREAFTER SHIFT, SO THE IDEA OF MAKING SURE WE ADDRESS THAT ISSUE BEFORE WE MOVE FORWARD AND THIS MIGHT BE A SERGEI QUESTION AND I WILL NOT DISPAIRMG YOU -- DISPARAGE YOU BECAUSE YOU ARE AWESOME, I UNDERSTAND THERE'S A POTENTIAL FASTER THE BENDER, THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT NEED SERVICES AND THEY ARE NOT GETTING THEM BECAUSE OF BEDS FOR THEM, AS WE ASSESS THE WATER ISSUE IN THE PLAN WE'RE MOVING FORWARD TO GET TO A POINT WHERE IT ALL MAKES SENSE AND INCLUDING THAT MASTER IDEA OF ENSURE THING THOROUGHFARE IS FULLY VETTED AND TAKEN CARE OF, IS THERE TIME OR APPETITE TO CONTINUE THOSE CONVERSATIONS OR IS IT SOMETHING THAT ON ALL FRONTS WE WANT TO DECIDE AND MOVE TONIGHT. AND I ASK THE COUNCIL AND I ASK THE PETITIONER BECAUSE IT SEEMS TO BE AN OPEN CONVERSATION TO ENSURE WE TAKE IN TO ACCOUNT THOSE LONGER TERM THINGS AND MAYBE TONIGHT'S NOT THE RIGHT NIGHT TO MOVER IT EITHER WAY.

>> FOR OUR PURPOSES, WE DO NOT SEE THE FIN HERB LINE TO DEVELOPMENT.

WE STILL NEED TO RECEIVE A DESIGN APPROVAL & LIGHTING DEVELOPMENT APPROVAL.

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SERGEI, FEEL FREE TO COMMENT. >> I APOLOGIZE AGAIN, I COMPLETELY MESSED UP TWO DIFFERENT PETITIONS, TWO DIFFERENT ITEMS. AND MY BRAIN MALFUNCTIONED, SO AGAIN, I APOLOGIES ON MY END. THIS IS A REZONE, SO THIS IS -- AS THE PETITIONER INDICATED WAS THE FIRST STEP IN THE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS, SO ONE THING THAT YOU HAVE TO KEEP IN MIND IS THAT YOU HAVE LEGISLATIVE BODY HAS 90 DAYS FROM PLANNING COMMISSION CERTIFICATION TO ACT IF THEY SO CHOOSE. IF YOU DON'T, THEN THE REZONE WILL BE DEEMED APPROVED AS CERTIFIED BY PLANNING COMMISSION.

THAT EXPIRES I BELIEVE APRIL 15 OR APRIL 22. SO, YOU DO HAVE ONE MORE METING YOU CAN ACT ON THIS PETITION, IF YOU CHOOSE, BECAUSE YOUR NEXT MEETING IS APRIL 20TH, THERE NIECE MEET INING THE BEGINNING OF APRIL BECAUSE OF SPRING BREAK, SO YOU DO HAVE ONE MORE OPPORTUNITY TO TWEAK THIS PETITION TO ADDRESS THAT, SO KEEP THAT DATE IN MIND.

IF YOU DON'T ACT, IT WILL BE PASSED AS CERTIFIED BY PLANNING COMMISSION.

BUT THE PETITIONER IS ALSO COLLECT THAT THIS IS NOT THE LAST STEP IN THE DISCUSSION OF CERTAIN DEVELOPMENT ISSUES THAT ARE ADDRESSED IN THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN AND ADLS, ADLA WILL ADDRESS LANDSCAPING WHICH CAN BE RELEVANT TO THE DISCUSSION OF SOFM OF THE WATER ISSUES AND ALSO DEVELOPMENT PLAN ALSO ADDRESSES THOSE ISSUES AS WELL FROM -- THERE IS AN ENGINEERING COMPONENT THERE AS WELL SO, WE WILL BE BACK TO ADDRESS SOL OF THE MORE

IN-DEPTH ISSUES ON THE PROJECT AT A LATER DATE. >> AND YEAH, SO MY THOUGHT PROCESS THERE, LIKE, THIS -- THE REZONE IS THE THING THAT TRIGGERS THE PROCESS TO MOVE DOWN THE PATH BUT IT IS OUR LAST KIND OF ATTEMPT TO ENSURE WE UNDERSTAND WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN BEFORE THAT'S TAKEN OUT OF OUR HANDS AND MOVED TO A DIFFERENT PART OF THE PROCESS UNTIL IT COMES BACK, SO MY QUESTION I GUESS AND REQUEST IS AS WE THINK ABOUT THIS, SHOULD WE USE THAT KNOWING WE'VE GOT A MEETING ON APRIL 20, THAT GIVERS US TWO DAYS GRAUS, IS THERE ENOUGH TIME BETWEEN THEN AND NOW TO HAVE DEEPER CONVERSATION SOS WE UNDERSTAD TO THE MAKE THAT JUDGMENT CALL AND THEN AGAIN BACK TO THE PETITIONER, IS THAT A CONVERSATION THAT SEEMS WORTHWHILE TO HAVE IN THAT TIMEFRAME OR DOES IT MAKE MORE SENSE FOR US TO VOTE TONIGHT AND SEE HOW THE CARDS FALL? AND I SAY THAT -- BASED ON THE OUTSTANDING KIND OF QUESTIONS AND THE THINGS THAT ARE THERE, I PERSONALLY FEEL LIKE I NEED MORE INFORMATION FOR A POSITIVE VOTE WHICH I DON'T KNOW WHERE THAT WOULD -- WE COULD SEE IF WE VOTE, BUT ULTIMATELY IT PUTS US IN A POSITION TO FIGURE OUT IF THERE'S A DESIRE TO HAVE A DEEPER CONVERSATION ABOUT THOSE TWO SPECIFIC ISSUES BEFORE THAT TIME RUNS OUT.

>> MR. PRESIDENT? FIRST OFF, I DON'T DISAGREE, I'M ON THE FENCE ON THIS TOO, I DON'T THINK WE'RE GOING TO HAVE AN ANSWER ON THE ROAD BETWEEN NOW AND A A MONTH FROM NOW, WHETHER THAT IS WHAT'S HAPPENING THERE. STORMWATER -- YOU KNOW, I GUESS WHAT I'M WONDERING IS -- AND I'M NOT DISAGREEING WITH YOU HERE, IS SOMETHING GOING TO CHANGE BETWEEN NOW AND A MONTH FROM NOW? AND IF NOT, I THINK WE SHOULD VOTE, BUT IF THERE IS SOMETHING WE CAN -- THAT WILL CHANGE FROM THEN AND NOW, THEN YES, LET'S

WAIT. >> I DON'T THINK THE -- THE ROAD DOESN'T CHANGE UNTIL MAYOR, PLANNING AND WE VOTE TO GET RID OF IT ON THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND/OR BUILD

IT AND -- GO AHEAD. >> I HAD A QUESTION FOR SERGEI, LEGAL, TO COUNCILOR LOCKE'S POINT, IF THERE WAS LET'S SAY THERE WAS -- LET'S SAY THE ORDINANCE REZONE DIDN'T PASS THIS EVENING, HOW LONG MUST THEY WAIT TO REAPPLY AND MAYBE THAT WOULD GIVE THE CITY TIME TO LOOK AT STORMWATER IMPROVEMENTS IN THE AREA TO HELP THE RESIDENTS.

>> SO, FOR A FAILED REZONE PETITION, THE PETITIONER WOULD HAVE TO WAIT ONE YEAR TO REAPPLY

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UNDER THE UDO. >> THOSE CAN'T BE WAIVED? .

INGER THIS IS A UDO REQUIREMENT, I CAN LOOK INTO THE WAIVER ISSUE BUT RIGHT NOW

IT IS AN ORDINANCE. >> I WOULD NOTE JUST FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION, COUNCILORS, YOU ALSO HAVE THE POWER AS THE PRESIDENT POINTED OUT, YOU DON'T HAVE ANY STANDARDS THAT YOU'RE HELD BY BUT YOU CERTAINLY HAVE THE POWER TO TAKE LEGISLATIVE ACTION.

YOU HAVE THE POWER TO AMEND AN ORDINANCE THAT YOU HAVE PASSED. OUR FIRST REQUEST IS AN AMENDMENT TO AN EXISTING ORDINANCE, YOU ARE CERTAINLY WELCOME TO AMEND THE SECOND NEW ORDINANCE ANY TIME YOU SEE FIT EVEN DURING OUR DEVELOPMENT PROCESS SO LONG AS YOU ARE CLEAR IT'S RETROACTIVE AND IMPACTS THE ONGOING DEVELOPMENT, SERGEI, TELL ME IF I'M WRONG, YES, SOMETIMES A CHANGE IS GRANDFATHERED AGAINST A CHANGE, BUT THEY HAVE THE POWER TO BE RETRO ACT TIER SPECIFIC TO A PUD SO LONG AS THEY'RE CLEAR ABOUT THE RETROACTIVITY WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE PROGRESS GOING FORWARD JUST BECAUSE THE NEED IS THERE AND WE HAVE PUT THE WORK IN AND WE WOULD LIKE TO CONTINUE WORKING WITH THE CITY TO ACHIEVE THE GOAL OF HAVING PEOPLE AGE IN THE COMMUNITY THAT THEY HAVE WORKED AND LIVED AND PAID TACKS IN FOR MANY YEARS. THAT IS -- YES, WE ARE A FOR PROFIT BUSINESS BUT WE ARE A FOR PROFIT BUSINESS SERVING A NEED IN THE COMMUNITY, A DEMONSTRATED NEED SO, WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE PROGRESS MOVER FORWARD AND ARE HAPPY TO WORK WITH THE CITY TO ACHIEVE ALL OF

ITS GOALS. >> SO THERE'S NO FINANCIAL INCENTIVE TO GETTING THIS DONE QUICKER? NLT I'M SURE WE SAVE TIME AND MONEY.

I NAOEMENT PARTICULARLY CHEAP TO BE QUITE HONEST, SO THE CLIENT SAVE IT IS MONEY THE LESS I HAVE TO APPEAR HERE, I'M SURE WE'RE SAVORING ENGINEERING COSTS BUT THE GOAL IS TO

CONTINUE MOVING FORWARD TO SEE PROGRESS MADE. >> THE COMMENT WAS MADE TO COUNCILOR AYERS AND I, IF YOU DON'T BREAK GROUND BY X DATE, YOU DON'T MAKE MONEY SX. THEN IT WAS FOLLOWED UP WITH IF YOU DON'T DO THIS, PEOPLE DIE WHICH I'M EXTREMELY -- I DON'T LIKE

THAT. >> I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT. >> I DON'T KNOW WHEN YOU'RE GOING DISCUSS THIS, IF YOU WANT TO MAKE CHANGES BECAUSE LAND USE IS ALREADY BOOKED.

WE'VE GOT UNTIL APRIL 22. >> DOES FINANCE WANT A CRACK AT IT?

>> SO, WE CAN CALL FOR THE VOTE AND SEE HOW IT GOES AND THEY CAN REINTRODUCE IF THEY HAVE A BETTER PROJECT AND I'M COMPLETELY OPEN TO EXPLORE THING WAIVER IF THEY COME BACK WITH SOMETHING SUBSTANTIALLY DIFFERENT BUT -- OR WE DELAY IT AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT CHANGES.

>> I'M GOOD WITH VOTING TONIGHT. SO, I DON'T THINK ANYTHING'S GOING TO CHANGE.

>> IS THAT A MOTION? >> I PREFER NOT TO MOTION. >> MR. PRESIDENT?

>> WOULD YOU EXCEPT ONE MORE COMMENT FROM THE PETITIONER? >> AGAIN, BRYAN LINDSAY WITH RESTORACY, SOME OF THE QUESTIONS WERE THE TIMELINE, WHAT WE STAND TO LOSE IF THE TIMELINE IS NOT MET. TLAS LICENSING PROCESS WITH THE STATE DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH THROUGH INDIANA THAT CLOSES ON JUNE 30 SO WE HAVE A DEADLINE TO SUBMIT DOCUMENTS, ARCHITECTURAL DESIGN AND IS OTHER THING SOS IF IT DOESN'T GO IN BY THAT, THEN ANOTHER YEAR GOES BY WITHOUT THOSE LICENSES. THE PROJECT THAT WE PROVIDE OR THE SERVICE THAT WE PROVIDE FOR THIS COMMUNITY IS HIGHLY SPECIALIZED.

I'VE WORKED IN SENIOR CARE FOR 19 YEARS, MOST OF YOU THAT HAVE BEEN TO A NURSING HOME HAVE SEEN WHAT THEY TYPICALLY ARE, WHEN WE BOUGHT THE GREENHOUSE COTTAGES THREE YEARS AGO, IT WAS A ONE STAR FACILITY, IT WAS ON THE FRONT PAGE OF THE CARMEL CURRENT, IT WAS NOT EVEN CLOSE TO FULL, IT WAS A BAD REPRESENTATION FOR SKAOEN SENIOR CARE IN CARMEL, TODAY IT IS A FOUR STAR FACILITY, IT WILL BE A FIVE STAR FACILITY IN APRIL AFTER THE LAST REVIEW, IT IS HIGHLY SPECIALIZED, MOST NURSING HOMES, THERE ARE OVER 500 NURSING HOME INS THE STATE OF INDIANA, THERE ARE FOUR THAT ARE A SMALL CONCEPT, WE ARE SWIMMING UPSTREAM, I AM ON A MISSION TO CHANGE SENIOR CARE BECAUSE I KNOW THE GENERAL POPULATION IS NOT HAPPY WITH SENIOR CARE THA,'S WHY I LEFT THE TRADITIONAL NURSING HOME MODEL AND STARTED RESTORACY.

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WE DON'T WANT TO CAUSE MORE PROBLEMS, WE ARE -- OUR INTENT IS TO SOLVE COMMUNITY PROBLEMS FOR THE CANALLING DEMOGRAPHIC OF THIS COMMUNITY BUT ARE DOING EVERYTHING WE CAN CAN TO BE EWE ACTUAL TAIRN IN OUR APPROACH, DO THE MOST GOOD FOR THE MOST PEOPLE IN THIS COMMUNITY AND

THAT'S ALL I HAVE. >> I VOTE TO NOT APPROVE THE PUD AMENDMENT.

MOVE. SORRY. >> THAT'S BEEN MOVED.

>> SECOND. >> IT'S BEEN MOVE AND HAD SECONDED, LET'S VOTE.

>> SO, IS A YES MEANING -- WE MAKE THE MOTION IN THE AFFIRM TIER, RIGHT?

>> THIS PARTICULAR MOTION WAS MADE IN THE NEGATIVE, THIS MOTION AS IT STANDS IS TO --.

INGER THAT'S OKAY. >> IS NOT TO APPROVE. >> IF I VOTE YES, THAT MEANS

I'M VOTE TOG NOT APPROVE IT. ? >> CORRECT.

>> OKAY. >> SO X YES MEANS NO, NO MEANS YES.

>> IF YOU WANT THE DEVELOPMENT, VOTE NO. IF YOU DO NOT WANT THE DEVELOPMENT, VOTE YES. THAT'S ALRIGHT? OKAY.

I WOULD ENCOURAGE THE PETITION TORE MEET WITH THE LAND USE CHAIR AND/OR MYSELF, WE'LL TAKE A LOOK AT THE UDO, THE THERE'S A LONG HISTORY WHY THERE'S A YEAR-LONG MORATORIUM ON REAPPLYING THAT PROBABLY NEEDS TO BE LOOKED AT ANYWAY. AND MAYBE YOU CAN COME BACK AND

HIT THE DEADLINE FOR NEXT YEAR. >> I THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.

>> IN THE SPIRIT OF STAYING CONSISTENT, WE'RE GOING TO DO THE VOTE -- THE QUESTION IN THE

NEGATIVE AGAIN. >> SO MOVED. >> SECOND.

>> ON THE -- YEAH, THE ONE THAT'S -- THIS IS A NEGATIVE? >> YES.

>> OKAY. >> WE HAVE NO PUBLIC HEARINGS. WE HAVE NO NEW BUSINESS, WE HAVE NO AGENDA ADD-ONS, DO WE HAVE OTHER BUSINESS? ANY ANNOUNCEMENTS?

[17. ANNOUNCEMENTS]

ONE MORE TIME, SHANNON. >> I'LL WAKE UP, SORRY, AGAIN, COUNCILOR SNYDER, I THANK YOU FOR BRINGING UP HOUSE BILL 1001 AND HOW IMPORTANT THIS COLLABORATION BETWEEN OUR MISSING MIDDLE EXPERT AND RIGHT NOW DRK OCS HAS HAD THEM LOOKING AT OUR UDO TO IDENTIFY PLACES WHERE WE COULD POSSIBLY MAKE SOME THOUGHTFUL MAYBE POSITIVE INITIATIVES FOR THE CITY OF CARMEL AND SO I WOULD REALLY ENCOURAGE EVERYONE WHO IS INTERESTED IN HOUSING IN CARMEL TO COME ON MARCH 26, THURSDAY, AT 9 A.M., DAN PAROLIC, OUR EXPERT, WILL BE

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WE'LL ADJOURN AT 11:00 AND FROM 11-12, THERE'S AN OPEN MIC. SESSION I'M GOING CALL IT WHERE YOU CAN HAVE YOUR QUESTIONS AND CONCERNS ADDRESSED. SO, THANK YOU, HOPE TO SEE YOU

THERE. >> JUST A REAL QUICK ANNOUNCEMENT T MAYOR'S ADVISORY COMMISSION ON SENIOR ADVISORY, I WOULD LIKE TO THANK [INAUDIBLE] AT THE MEDICINEBACKER IN, SHE HAS CONDUCTED OUR CITY-WIDE ASSESSMENT, THAT PRESENTATION WILL BE PRESENTED AT THE COMMISSION MEETING ON APRIL 22 AT 5:30 P.M. IN THESE CHAMBERS.

FROM THAT OUR COMMISSION AND THE ADMINISTRATION WILL BE WORKING ON AN ACTION PLAN TO ADDRESS THE ISSUES FOUND WITHIN THE ASSESSMENT BASED UPON THE AAR FRAMEWORK TO BECOME AN AARP AGE-FRIENDLY COMMUNITY, SO EXCITED TO GET THAT ROLLING AND ACCOMPLISHED THIS YEAR.

THANK YO

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