Mar 31, 2026 Carmel Plan Commission

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ESPINA GOOD EVENING AND WELCOME TO TUESDAY MARCH 31ST PLAN COMMISSION MEETING AS A WHOLE. ON TONIGHT'S DOCKET WE HAD TO

[2. Docket No. PZ-2025-00122 ADLS Amend: Blue House Bridal Addition The applicant seeks design approval for a building addition and site improvements. The site is located at 231 N Rangeline Rd. It is zoned B-5/Business District and is located within the Old Town Overlay District, Historic Range Line Sub-Area. Filed by Brittany Overbeck of Blue House Bridal. ]

WE ARE GOING TO JUMP DIRECTLY INTO ITEM NUMBER 2 WHICH IS XUZHOU 122 GLUCOSE BIBLE EDITION.

APPLICANT SEEKS DESIGN APPROVAL FOR BUILDING ADDITION AND SITE IMPROVEMENTS. THE SITE LOCATED 2:30 ONE NORTH RANGELAND ROAD SOME BA.5 BUSINESS DISTRICT LOCATED WITHIN THE OLDTOWN OVERLAY DISTRICT SUBAREA.

BUCCOS BRIDAL. IF YOU WOULD MIND TAKING JUMPING UP AND CORRECT. MAKE SURE YOU HIT THE BUTTON.

>> I AM BRITTANY THE OWNER OF BUCCOS BRIDAL.

ABBY COOK ON MY PART BUT I WANTED TO GIVE A QUICK LOW BACKGROUND ON THE BUSINESS END OR GOAL OF THE PROJECT.

SO I HAVE OWNED GLUCOSE FOR 12 YEARS NOW AND WE HAVE ALWAYS BEEN IN CARMEL SORT SOMEWHERE SOMEWHERE THAT HAS BEEN INCREDIBLY SPECIAL TO US AS WE HAVE GROWN.

WE ARE THE ONLY BRIDAL BOUTIQUE THAT OPERATES OUT OF THE HOUSE WHICH MAKES WHAT WE DO VERY EXPERIENCE FOCUSED.

BRIDES COME IN WITH THE CLOSEST PEOPLE AND IS MEANT TO FEEL COMFORTABLE PERSONAL AND SPECIAL SO CREATING A SPACE THAT FEELS OR GO HOME IS REALLY IMPORTANT TO US.

EVERY GUEST GETS HER OWN SWEET OR VIEWING AREA TO SHOW THE GALLONS AND THEY ARE ASSIGNED THEIR OWN CONSULTANT TO GUIDE THEM THROUGH THE APPOINTMENT. JUST GIVE SOME CONTACTS ON OUR GROWTH WE WORKED WITH AROUND 1,000 BRIDAL GROUPS LAST YEAR AND HAVE GROWN EVERY YEAR SINCE WE HAVE OPENED.

IN A TYPICAL WEEKEND WE ARE AT CAPACITY AND DURING BUSY SEASON WITHOUT TO TURN BRIDES AWAY BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THE SPACE.

THIS EXTENSION ALLOWS FOR US TO SERVE MORE BRIDES WITHOUT TURNING PEOPLE AWAY WHILE CONTINUING TO PROVIDE A THOUGHTFUL APPOINTMENT BASED EXPERIENCE THAT RESPECTS THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND TRAFFIC FLOW. BECAUSE WE ARE APPOINTMENT ONLY IT NATURALLY MANAGES TRAFFIC PARKING AND NOISE AND VERY INTENTIONAL WAY. WHEN I FIRST SAW THIS HOUSE I INITIALLY TURNED AWAY BECAUSE OF ITS CONDITION BUT AFTER A FEW MOMENTS I'VE STARTED TO SEE IT AS AN OPPORTUNITY TO THOUGHTFULLY RESTORE A HOME SORRY PART OF THE COMMUNITY AND BRING IT TO LIFE. THE PROPERTY HAS BEEN TAKEN DOWN TO THE STUDS WHICH GIVES US A CHANCE TO COMPLETELY REIMAGINE IT. WE ARE MAKING SIGNIFICANT INVESTMENT INTO REBUILDING WITH CARE AND INTENTION.

THE VISION IS SOMETHING CLEAN TIMELESS AND WELCOMING WILL STILL FITTING NATURALLY INTO THE SURROUNDING AREA AND STAYING TRUE TO HER FEELS LIKE HOME EXPERIENCE THAT'S ALWAYS BEEN AT THE CORE OF OUR BUSINESS. THIS IS ABOUT CONTINUE TO GROW OR GROW ALONG LOCAL WOMEN OPERATE BUSINESS GREETING OPPORTUNITIES FOR OUR TEAM INVESTING BACK INTO THE COMMUNITY AND BRINGING SOMETHING POSITIVE, LASTING AND THOUGHTFULLY DESIGNED INTO A SPACE THAT HAS BEEN PART OF OUR COMMUNITY FOR A LONG TIME. NOW I WILL LET DAVE OUR ARCHITECT WALKED THROUGH THE DETAILS OF THE ACTUAL PLAN.

>> I'M GOING TO HOOK UP THIS FANCY ATTACHMENT HERE.

YOU MEAN JUST A SECOND. WAS AT THIS OR THAT SIDE? OKAY. THANK YOU GUYS FOR HAVING US.

WE ARE REALLY EXCITE TO BE HERE AND WE BEEN INTERFACING WITH ALEXIA PRIMARILY SHE'S BEEN REALLY HELPFUL FOR US.

HAPPY TO TALK THROUGH ALL THE SPECIFICS IF AND WHEN IT CUES UP THIS IS MY FIRST FORAY INTO WORKING IN THE VILLAGE OF CARMEL SO REALLY EXCITED ABOUT IT. MEANT TO BE A COLLABORATIVE THING AND IF SOMETHING ISN'T SHOWN ON HERE THAT MIGHT JUST BE BECAUSE I DIDN'T KNOW IT HEMP HE TO MAKE THE CHANGES.

NOT SURE. I ALSO HAVE HARD COPIES.

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>> I'M GOING TO MOVE THIS OUT OF THE WAY IMPORTANCE OF THAT RED

BOX. >> THAT'S COOL.

THIS IS LIKE SUNDAY MAC CHURCH WITH THE COURSES.

THAT'S COOL. SO I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS ALEXIA IS INTERESTED IN IS THE SITE PLAN AND USAGE OF A LOT STAYING UNDER 70% WAS OUR GOAL AND IF I HAVE CALCULATED ALL OF THOSE SQUARE FOOTAGE IS THINGS CORRECTLY IN THE TOP RIGHT IT PUTS US AT A 65%. THE EXISTING FOOTPRINT IS 12.38 AND REPORTING ON A STRATEGIC EDITION OFF TO THE EAST OF 812 SQUARE FEET AND A COUPLE PORCHES ONE KIND OF IN THE MIDDLE ON THE SOUTH SIDE AND ONE LARGE ONE OFF THE BACK.

I THINK SOME OF THE PARAMETERS OUT TO BE SOME OF MY DESIGN WORKING IDEAS, I LIKE THE IDEA OF, I HAD TO STANDARD EXISTING ROOF HEIGHT THAT WAS WORKABLE AND TOTALLY FINE TO DO AND THE OTHER CONSTRAINT WAS AND NOT COMING OUT TO THE NORTH OR SOUTH , AND THAT WAS FINE AS WELL.

MY INITIAL INSTINCT WAS TO PROJECT OUT ON THE SOUTH BUT KNOWING WEREN'T ALLOWED TO THAT'S WHAT MOTIVATED SOME OF THAT PORCH IN THE MIDDLE SO THE GABLE EDITION OF THE END STILL FEELS LIKE IT IS SOMEWHAT IN THE ROUND OR BRITTANY AND I TOSSED AROUND THE TERM JEWEL BOX. WE WANT TO HAVE ENOUGH A LOT OF NATURAL LIGHT AND GREAT SPACE FOR HER WITH DIFFERENT EVENTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. I LIKE THE CLEAN CHALMERS STREET OF THE EXISTING. THINK VISUALLY THREE GABLES THAT ARE PROMINENT. ONE FACING THE STREET, AND ONE ON THE NORTH AND ONE ON THE SOUTH.

THAT'S EXISTING. THIS LINE OVER IS ALL EXISTING.

DON'T LOOK TOO CLOSELY AT THE BLUE.

BLUE IS KIND OF A TRICKY COLOR AND EVEN TRICKIER ON MY COMPUTER. SO TAKE THAT WITH A GRAIN OF SALT. BUT WE DO TO THE NAME OF THE COMPANY GOING TO BE IN THE BLUE FAMILY SOMEWHERE SO WE ARE WORKING THROUGH THAT AND WE ARE HOPING IF WE HAVE YOUR BLESSING TO SAMPLE SOME COLORS ON THE BUILDING AND CONSTRUCTION TO UNDERSTAND MORE CLEARLY THE NATURAL LIGHT AND THAT KIND OF THING AND WOULD BE HAPPY TO PROVIDE SOME OF THE SAMPLES THAT WERE CONSIDERING AS YOU GO ALONG SURGE BACK SITE I SUPPOSE.

SHE WANT TO WALK THROUGH SOME OF THOSE SPECIFICS IN TERMS OF THE PARKING AND TEN SPACES WAS OUR GOAL.

INITIALLY 20 AND I THINK WITH THAT OLDTOWN OVERLAY BECAUSE IT'S A SMALL SITE WE ARE ALLOWED TO REDUCE IT BY HALF.

SO WE HAVE FIVE PARKING SPACES IN THE MAIN BACK PARKING LOT AND THEN WE HAVE THREE ON THE SOUTH SIDE.

IF NEEDED WE CAN ADD TO THE WEST.

WE HAVE CURRENTLY SHOWN ONE 88 SPOT THING IN SOMEONE'S COMMENTS VERY RIGHTFULLY SO THERE WAS NO RAMP PREVIOUSLY AND THAT'S BEEN INCLUDED IN WE ALSO HAVE SHOWING TWO.

THERE MIGHT BE THREE SPOTS ON THE CURB.

I BELIEVE WE ARE HITTING TEN IF 9/11 DEPENDING ON HOW TWO OUT FRONT ARE TREATED. I THINK TWO THEIR CONSISTORY IN THE BACK OR SOMETHING. SO HAPPY TO WORK WITH YOU GUYS IF WE NEED MORE PARKING. I THINK WE HAVE THAT COVERED.

'S WE WOULD LIKE-- I'M NO LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT BUT I WOULD LIKE TO SOFTEN THE BUILDING SOME BY ADDING AT LEAST A COUPLE OF

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IN THE FRONT OF THE PROPERTY WE ARE PROPOSING TO KEEP ALL OF THOSE EXISTING TREES. THERE'S THREE REALLY NICE TREES IN THE RIGHT-OF-WAY CERTAINLY TO STAY.

THERE'S A SMALLER TREE KIND OF A CHARLIE BROWN TREE.

I'M NOT SURE IT'S STORY BUT THAT WILL STAY JUST TO THE SOUTH OF THE EXISTING FRONT PORCH AND I AM IN COMMUNICATION WITH A NEIGHBOR TO THE NORTH. THERE'S A LARGE TREE THAT'S ON THE PROPERTY LINE. BEEN TRYING TO GET A HOLD OF HIM TO DISCUSS IS OUR ADDITION WILL PROBABLY COMPANY CLOSE TO IT AND I THINK WOULD FEEL BETTER SOME LIMBS DIDN'T OVERHANG AS MUCH AS THEY WOULD. BUT I WANT TO BE RESPECTFUL OF THE NICE SHADE THEY ARE GETTING FROM THE TREE BUT WE ARE IN COMMUNICATION WITH HIM. SO I THINK THAT MIGHT BE IT FOR NOW. I WOULD BE GLAD TO FIELD ANY

QUESTIONS. >> SPEAKER-01: I LIKE THE BLUE. JULY TO PROVIDE SOME FEEDBACK AND COMMENTS? THANK YOU SO THE STAFF REPORT LISTS A LOT OF OUTSTANDING ITEMS AND PETITIONER HAS DONE HARDWORKING LAST FEW DAYS TO ADDRESS MOST OF OUR COMMENTS AND CONCERNS. OUR CONCERNS WERE ABOUT THE LOT COVERAGE, THE PARKING, THE BIKE PARKING THINGS THAT.

BUT LOOKS LIKE THE ADDRESS MOST OF THOSE ITEMS NOW.

THE ONE THING I WOULD LIKE THE PETITION TO GO OVER IS A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE ARCHITECTURE. THERE WERE SOME CONCERNS AND IT LOOKS LIKE SOME OF THE ARCHITECTURAL ELEMENTS HAVE BEEN REMOVED FROM A FEW DAYS AGO SO IF YOU CAN GO OVER THAT QUICKLY.

BUT OTHERWISE I THINK WE'RE GOING TO CHANGE OUR RECOMMENDATION IF THE COMMITTEE WOULD LIKE TO VOTE WITH THE CONDITION OF THE PETITIONER GETTING ALL THE REMAINING REVIEW COMMENTS ADDRESSED IN PROJECT DOCS.

GROOD LIKE TO CHANGE A RECOMMENDATION FOR TONIGHT.

THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU.

COMMITTEE. COMES QUESTIONS CONCERNS THE.

>> OF THE GOOD. FABULOUS.

COULD YOU ADDRESS AND USE QUESTION ABOUT WHAT WERE THE ARCHITECTURAL OMENS CHANGED LAST FEW DAYS AND GO OVER THOSE WITH

US THAT WOULD BE GREAT. >> SPEAKER-01: THANK YOU FOR THAT PROMPT. NORMALLY I LOVE TALKIN ARCHITECTURE. SO FOR CLARITY THE POST IN THE FRONT SUPPORTING THE COVER OF THE FRONT PORCH THAT'S CURRENTLY SHOWN AS WHERE IS NOT INTENDED TO BE SQUARE. %-ÚG ON MY END. SMALLER CLASSICAL WOODEN COLUMN AND THAT'S FINE TO STAY. JUST DON'T HAVE THE ABILITIES TO MODEL THAT SO WELL. BUT I'M HAPPY WITH THAT REMAINING IN THE PREVIOUS VERSION.

I DID HAVE A LITTLE BALUSTRADE OVER A LITTLE RAILING OVER THAT EXISTING FRONT PORCH WHICH I DO THINK HELPED FILL IN SOME SPACE BUT I CERTAINLY UNDERSTAND THE MOTIVATION OF NOT WANTING TO GO BACK IN TIME AND TRY TO ADJUST SOME OF THE EXISTING.

SO I DID REMOVE THAT. AS WELL AS THOSE SMOTHERED FROM BOARDS AND THINGS LIKE THAT ON THE EXISTING THAT I HAVE SINCE REMOVED. MY HOPE IS REALLY TO CARRY SOME OF THE LANGUAGE THROUGH ON THE EXISTING SIDE AND THE NEW SIDE FOR CONTINUITY PURPOSES BUT I REMOVE THAT AND FEEL FINE ABOUT HAVING MOVED THAT. I THINK ONE THING THAT MAY BE I WOULD LIKE TO DISCUSS IS THAT STANDING SEAM METAL WAS CALLED OUT AND I CERTAINLY REMOVE IT FROM THE FRONT TO EXISTING DORMERS THE STRONG SMALLER. ON THE NORTH AND THE SOUTH SIDE THERE ARE IN DISPUTE IS THE DORMER WITH THREE WINDOWS ON THE SECOND FLOOR. THE ROOF IS REALLY, REALLY SHALLOW THOSE OF THEIR THE OTHER DAY AND YOU REALLY CAN'T SEE THE ROOF FROM THE GROUND. THE PITCH IS SUCH WHERE A SHINGLE COMPANY WOULDN'T WARRANTY PUTTING SHINGLES ON THE

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I CALLED IT OUT IS 212 BUT MIGHT EVEN BE SHALLOWER THAN THAT.

SO I HAVE STANDING SEAM ON THERE FOR DRAINAGE PURPOSES AND THAT'S REALLY WHEN IT'S NOT AN ECSTATIC REASON STANDING SEAM IS GOOD FOR LOW PITCH APPLICATIONS. WE CAN ALSO DO A ROLLED ROOFING OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT SINCE IT'S NOT VISIBLE BUT I WOULD NOT ENCOURAGE JUST FROM A FUNCTIONAL STANDPOINT I WOULD NOT ENCOURAGE SHINGLES AND THOSE TWO LOCATIONS THREE WINDOW DORMER AND A SIMILAR ONE ON THE SOUTH SIDE WHICH I DON'T HAVE A VIEW OF.

I DO A STATICALLY LIKE THE LOOK OF THE STANDING SEAM AND THE ADDITION. AND THE COVERED PORCH IN THE MIDDLE AND OFF THE BACK. IF WE WERE TO CONVERT THOSE TWO SHINGLE, YOU MIGHT NOT-- MAYBE IT'S NEITHER HERE NOR THERE BUT I THINK IT LOOKS GOOD WAS STANDING SEAM PARTICULARLY IN THE MIDDLE AS YOU'RE SEEING FROM THE PARKING LOT AND FROM THAT ACCESS ALLEY ROAD, SO THAT IS SOMETHING I THINK TO BE DISCUSSED THAT I'M KIND OF HANGING ONTO FROM ALEXIA PROCESS COMMENTS TRY TO BE ACCOMMODATING OF ALL THE THINGS SHE WANTS BUT THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF STICKING POINT FOR FUNCTIONAL REASONS AND

ASKED ATIKAMEKW REASONS. >> I APPRECIATE THAT.

I DON'T HAVE ANY COMMENTS. DOES ANYBODY ELSE? STAYCATION THE SAIT EXHIBIT. IT'S DIFFERENT THAN THE ONE PACK AND REFLECTS WORKING RAMP CHANGES IF YOU DON'T MIND PUTTING THAT BACKUP THERE. YOU TALKED ABOUT THE ADDITIONAL PARKING IF YOU HAVE SPY AT FIVE SPACES HERE IN EAST.

I GUESS JUST EXPLAIN TO ME BECAUSE IT'S DIFFERENT THAN WHAT I SAW. WHAT IS GOING ON WITH THE LINE WORK? WHAT AMASSING IS THE ABILITY TO JAM SIX PARKING SPACE IN THERE WAS A JUST NOT QUITE BIG ENOUGH AS FAR AS IS A DISTRACTED AREA ON EACH SIDE?

>> IS A KERBER OR SOMETHING ELSE?

>> SIMILAR ONE AT THE TOP OF THE NORTH.

>> THAT IS OFTEN I SEE THAT IN PARKING LOT HELPFUL FOR TURNING IN AND OUT SOON ARE DRIVING THE GRASS WE NEED TO BACK OUT YOU HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE PLAY. SPEE RECALL I WAS WONDERING IS IF YOU TAKE THE TWO OF THOSE TOGETHER TO GET TO WHERE IT'S 20 BY NINE AND HE SOMEHOW CAN FIT ANOTHER SPACE IN THEIR, IF THAT HELPS APPEASE ANY PARKING CONCERNS AND HELPS PREVENT HAVING TO ADD MORE NEXT TO SIX, SEVEN AND EIGHT IF THAT BECOMES A THING TO SAVE A TREE OR GLASS, THAT KIND OF THING?

>> I THINK IF WE WERE TO ADD A SIXTH SPOT IN THE BACK WAS TO RECOMMEND SOME KIND OF EMERGING. THE MARGIN COULD PROBABLY BE REDUCED SOME. I THINK IT IS AT THREE, THREE OR 4 FEET NOW AT LEAST. MAY BE IT GOES TO TWO.

I THINK MAYBE YOU CAN HELP ME UNDERSTAND TWO AND TWO ON THE STREET CONSISTORY AND THE LAW AND YOU KNOW THAT DISTINCTION?

>> WE HAVE EIGHT IN THE LOT AND TWO ON THE STREET SPINCO BE LOOKING TO STAFF TO TELL ME THEIR INTERPRETATION OF THAT.

>> WE CAN TAKE A LOOK AT THAT BUT IT'S A LITTLE DIFFERENT WITH ON STREET PARKING BECAUSE IT'S MORE PUBLIC PARKING ANYONE CAN PARK THERE. SANCHEZ FOR THE PATRONS OF THIS% ESTABLISHMENT. SO THEY MIGHT NEED TO MAYBE ADD ONE PARKING SPACE ON SIGHT BACK OR FIND SHARED PARKING WITH AN ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNER. SOME TYPE OF PARKING AGREEMENT.

BUT I WOULD SAY THEY ARE VERY, VERY CLOSE TO MEETING OUR

ORDINANCE. >> THAT'S GOOD TO KNOW.

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THREE OFF-STREET PLACES. >> THANKS FOR THE INFO.

>> SPEAKER-01: I PUT TWO ON STREET BUT OUR LAW IS 65 AND A HALF FEET. SO MAYBE THERE WOULD EVEN BE THREE ON STREET PARKING SPACES THERE HOWEVER, WE DIVVY UP THAT

HAVE CAR I'M NOT SURE. >> WOULD BE HAPPY TO ADD A

FOURTH ONE HERE IS THAT HELPS. >> ON THE EXISTING PORTION OF THE HOME CAN YOU GO OVER SOD MATERIALS SO WE REPLACED? SIDING, WINDOWS DOORS WAS KIND OF THINGS.

WHAT WOULD BE INTENDED TO BE REPLACED?

VERSUS REPAIRED. >> THE ROOF NEEDS TO BE REPLACED ALL OF THE WINDOW LOCATIONS ON THE EXISTING ARE INTENDED TO REMAIN AND THERE'S A HODGEPODGE OF WINDOW STYLES.

SOME ARE FIXED, SUMMER CASEMENT SUMMER DOUBLE SO WE ARE PROPOSING TO UNIFY ALL OF THOSE WITH CASEMENT STYLE WINDOWS WITH A SIMILAR PATTERN THROUGHOUT. EARLY ON WE CHATTED WITH ALEXIA ABOUT THIS BUT BECAUSE THE BUILDING USED TO BE A DUPLEX THERE WERE TWO DOORS OFF OF THAT FRONT PORCH AND ONE FACING SOUTH AND ONE FACING THE STREET AND WE OPTED TO KEEP THEM ON THE FACES THE STREET. AND WHEN THAT FACES SOUTH TURN THAT INTO A WINDOW SO TRYING TO BE AS RESPECTFUL AS POSSIBLE AND KEEP THE OPENINGS WHERE WE CAN. BUT THAT'S THE STORY WITH THE WINDOWS. THE SIDING IS CURRENTLY ALUMINUM AND THERE'S AN 8-INCH REVEAL. I FEEL LIKE THERE'S PROBABLY SOME OTHER SIDING UNDERNEATH THAT.

I THINK REFERRING TO THAT ALUMINUM SIDING HISTORIC FEELS A LITTLE GENEROUS. IT'S PROBABLY THERE FROM THE 80S OR 90S. MIGHT BE OTHER WOOD SIDING OR SOMETHING UNDERNEATH IT BUT WE ARE HAPPY TO REFERENCE THE ALUMINUM. SO WE ARE PROPOSING A SIMILAR 8-INCH REVEAL PRODUCT WHETHER NICKEL GAP SIDING OR HORIZONTAL.

OUR PROVINCE WILL BE AS SMOOTH TEXTURE RATHER THAN CEDAR.

THAT CAN LOOK A LITTLE BIT FAKE AT TIMES.

DOING SMOOTH LOOKS GOOD AND CONTINUING THAT PATTERN INTO PROPOSED ADDITION AND PERHAPS CHANGING THE MATERIAL ON THE UPPER HALF, UPPER THIRD INTO A SMALLER REVEAL PROBABLY 4-INCH LAP SIDING FOR A LITTLE BIT OF REFINEMENT AND DELICACY.

BRITNEY SAID SHE WOULD BUY ME DINNER IF I CALLED [BLEEP] ALUMINUM SIDING. I DO FEEL LIKE THE ALUMINUM SIDING IS IN ROUGH SHAPE. WE CAN FIND A PRODUCT THAT FEELS GOOD THAT KIND OF REFERENCES THAT BUT WHEN WE GET INTO CONSTRUCTION I'M CURIOUS IF THERE'S SOMETHING UNDERNEATH IT FEELS EVEN MORE HISTORIC. AND IF DESIRED WE CAN WORK OFF OF THAT IF THAT FEELS GOOD TO EVERYBODY.

BUT I THINK THE BUILDING, 1880S OR SOMETHING.

IT'S QUITE OLD. SURE THEIR ITERATIONS PRIOR TO ALUMINUM THAT CAME INTO BEING POSTWAR'S.

I'M NOT AN ARCHITECT. I'M JUST CURIOUS MIGHT HAVE THE ARCH BRACES ON ALL THE OTHER SUPPORTS BUT NOT ON THE PORCH.

>> THE FRONT PORCH? THAT WAS BECAUSE I WASN'T, I CAN'T BE ADDING THINGS TO THE EXISTING.

I LOVE TO PUT SOMETHING UP THERE TO TIE IT TOGETHER.

>> CAN THEY? IS PROHIBITED?

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>> YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT RIGHT IN THE FRONT PORCH.

>> I THINK THE PRIOR ITERATION SHOWED A RAILING.

IS THAT WHAT YOU WOULD CALL IT? STAFF ASKED TO REMOVE THAT BECAUSE IT'S NOT REALLY APPROPRIATE FOR THIS ARCHITECTURAL STYLE. BUT IF THERE'S SOMETHING SIMILAR MORE APPROPRIATE TO THE ARCHITECTURAL STYLE I'M SURE WE

WOULD CONSIDER. >> TO BE ELEMENTARY A RAILING IS

MIDDLE DOWN, RIGHT? >> ARE YOU ASKING ABOUT THE

BRACKETS? >> I'M ASKING ABOUT THE

BRACKETS. >> OKAY.

ON THE ACTUAL FRONT PORCH. >> I DO THINK THE BECAUSE OF THE SHAPE OF THAT EXISTING COLUMN BEING AROUND.

>> AND YOU DRAW ON THAT? >> SO I GUESS IT'S KIND OF GOES BACK TO IF WE WERE TO REPLACE THE EXISTING ROUND COLUMN WITH A POST LIKE THIS THEN WE CAN INTRODUCE BRACKET TREE BUT I DON'T THINK WE COULD DO THE BRACKETS ON THE EXISTING ROUND COLUMN. IF IT YOU'RE GOING REPLACE IT.

THAT'S NOT THE CASE? >> I'M NOT A VERY GOOD MODEL OR MY--'S. YOU DON'T HAVE ANY INTENTION OF

REPLACING IT? >> IF YOU EVER DO.

>> THAT WOULD BE CONSISTENT CARRIED ON THROUGH TO THAT SIDE

OF THE HOUSE. >> ARE WE ALLOWED TO DO THAT? IT'S ONLY REASON WE KEPT AT THE SAME.

SO NOT THE BALCONY RAILING. THE POST IN THE BRACKETS.

AT THE GET FIXED FITS WITH THE OVERALL ARCHITECTURAL THEME IN THIS COHESIVE WE CAN TAKE A LOOK AT THAT THEY CAN SUBMIT THAT IN THE NEXT REVIEW CYCLE THE PROJECT DOCS.

>> DO YOU REALLY WANT TO DO THAT?

>> I DO THINK THAT THE FRONT PORCH CAN BE ELEVATED WITH SOME ADDITIONAL DETAIL THAT WAS WHY WAS ADDING THE RAILING IN SUCH.

AND I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND DOING THAT BUT I DO THINK THAT REPLACING THE COLUMN WITH THE POST AND ADDING MATCHING BRACKETS I THINK WOULD GO AT NICE DEFINITION AND CONTINUITY

WITH THE FRONT AND BACK. >> I PERSONALLY AGREED.

I DON'T THINK IT'S NECESSARILY A DEAL BREAKER PER SE BUT IT WOULD BE NICE DURING THOSE ELEMENTS OF FRONT.

LESS ANYONE DISAGREES ON THAT. ONE QUESTION I HAVE.

AS I AM LOOKING I DIDN'T GET A CHANCE TO GO VISIT THE SITE BEFORE TONIGHT'S MEETING BUT AS I'M LOOKING AT GOOGLE MAPS MY WIZARDRY ON THE MAPS SEEMS TO BE TWO OR THREE TREES ON THE NORTHERN BOUNDARY. WE ARE TALKING JUST THE ONE FURTHEST WEST ON THE BACK PART OF THE PROPERTY THAT MIGHT HAVE

TO COME DOWN? >> WITH THEM TO PRESERVE THOSE.

I SPEAK FOR ALL OF US TO SEE LESS TREES COME DOWN IS ALWAYS

GOOD. >> CERTAINLY BACK IN MY OLD FIRM THERE WAS LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT THOSE ENTRIES CANNOT SPEAK FOR THEMSELVES SO I LIKE THAT. BUT I'M TOTALLY OPEN TO KEEPING AS MANY TREES AS POSSIBLE. THERE'S ONE THAT I MENTIOED IS PROBABLY THE LARGEST OF THE THREE AND THIS TIME OF YEAR IT'S HARD TO TELL HOW IT IS DOING. RAUSA THERE THE OTHER DAY TALKING WITH THE TENANT THERE AND ABIDES SO I COULDN'T TELL IF IT WAS DOING WELL. IT DIDN'T REALLY LOOK GREAT BUT MAYBE AS A COME AROUND FOR THE SEASON BUT CERTAINLY HAS LARGE BRANCHES THAT WOULD BE HANGING OVER WHERE THE EDITION IS.

SO I THINK AT A MINIMUM WE NEED TO LIMIT UP A LITTLE BIT AND HOPEFULLY IT'S DOING GREAT AND WE CAN MAKE SOME ADJUSTMENTS TO IT. THE OTHERS ARE NOT EXACTLY SURE.

I THE EVERGREENS? >> HARD TO TELL.

TO MAKE THE EVERGREENS AS I'M LOOKING AT THE SICKNICK.

>> APOCHI HAVE SOME PICTURES AND CAN TAKE A CLOSER LOOK AT THAT PART OF THE SITE AND CORRESPOND WITH ALEXIA.

>> COMMENTS FROM THE COMMITTEE OR QUESTIONS? OKAY. SENDZIK WE CAN MOVE THIS UP FOR A VOTE TONIGHT WITH ANY PENDING RECOMMENDATIONS.

>> I WAS SO MOVED ASSUMING OUR LAST ROUND OF DISCUSSIONS DID NOT CAUSE ANGST SINCE WE ARE NOT CAUSING ANGST I THEREFORE MOVE

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SPECIFY. >> PARKING, LANDSCAPING.

BRACKETS POST. WHAT ARE MY MISSING?

WHATEVER IS IN PROJECT DOCS. >> SECOND.

SPEE EMOTION SECOND DOLLARS OF HERE PLEASE SAY I.

OPPOSED. MOTION CARRIES.

CONGRATULATIONS. AND THAT IS ALL WE HAVE ON THE DOCKET FOR TONIGHT. OUR NEXT MEETING I DON'T KNOW THE NEXT MEETING IS. 17TH WILL BE THE FULL PLAN COMMISSION MEETING ON APRIL 17TH.

SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

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