[1. CALL TO ORDER ]
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THE CITY OF CARMEL COUNCIL MEETING, THE FIRST ITEM ON THE
[2. AGENDA APPROVAL ]
AGENDA AT 6:01:00 A.M. THE FIRST ITEM IS AGENDA IMPROV ALL. FIRST PAID SECOND.UP NEXT WE HAVE OUR INVOCATION BY FIRE DEPARTMENT CHAPLAIN.
>> GRATEFUL TO BE HERE. GRATEFUL TO BE HERE.
WILL YOU BOW YOUR HEADS AND I WILL PRAY FOR US.
GOD, THANK YOU FOR THIS DAY THA YOU HAVE MADE IT BE RECOGNIZE I IS A GIFT FROM YOU THANK YOU FO YOUR FAITHFULNESS, GOODNESS, GRACE AND MERCY IN OUR LIVES AN YOU ARE SO GOOD.
THANK YOU FOR THE BLESSING OF OUR CITY AND COMMUNITY AND FAMILIES WHO CALL AT HOME AND FOR THE PEOPLE WHO SERVE THIS COMMUNITY EVERY SINGLE DAY. WE ARE ESPECIALLY GRATEFUL FOR THOSE IN THIS ROOM AND THE RESPONSIBILITY THEY CARRY LEADERSHIP AS A HIGH CALLING AN IT IS NOT EASY.
GIVE THEM THE RESULT TO LEAD WELL AND SERVE WITH INTEGRITY AND CLARITY IN EVERY DECISION THEY MAKE AND THANK YOU FOR THEIR SACRIFICE AND DEDICATION IN MAKING THIS A BETTER PLACE AND THANK YOU FOR THE PEOPLE WH SERVE OUR CITY, COUNCIL MEMBERS CITY LEADERS, OUR MAYOR, POLICE OFFICERS, FIREFIGHTERS, TEACHERS , AND SO MANY OTHERS WHO CARRY RESPONSIBILITY BEHIND THE SCENES. STRENGTHEN STRENGTHENED THEM AN ENCOURAGE THEM TONIGHT OR HAS THE COUNCIL GATHERS TO MAKE HIM I PRAY YOUR BLESSING OVER EVERY PERSON HERE AND YOUR WISDOM, DISCERNMENT, HUMILITY EVEN WHEN THERE ARE DIFFERENT OPINIONS.
HEARTS FROM PRIDE IN DEFICIENT AND SELFISH AMBITION AND HELP EACH PERSON SEEK NOT THEIR OWN AGENDA BUT THE GOOD OF THE PEOPLE THEY SERVE WE PRAY FOR CARMEL TO CONTINUE TO BE A CITY MARKED BY COMPASSION AND GENEROSITY, SELFLESSNESS THEN AND HOPE YOUR HELP IS TO BE SAL AND LIGHT HERE TO LOVE PEOPLE WELL AND SERVE PEOPLE WELL AND ABOVE ALL, GOD, MAY WE RECOGNIZ YOU, NOT LEADING YOU OUT BUT PU YOU AT THE CENTER OF ALL WE DO THANK YOU FOR YOUR FIVE AND FOR YOUR GRACE FOR EACH AND EVERY ONE OF US. IN JESUS NAME, AMEN.
>> THANK YOU, CHAPLAIN. NEXT UP IS OUR PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE LED BY OUR DEPUTY MAYOR.
I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
>> WELL DONE. RECOGNITION OF CITY EMPLOYEES
[6. RECOGNITION OF PERSONS WHO WISH TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL ]
AND OUTSTANDING CITIZENS. NONE ON THE DOCKET THIS EVENING RECOGNITION OF PERSONS WHO WISH TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL.WE DO HAVE QUITE A FEW TONIGHT. I THINK WE'VE GOT 11 AND I THIN THEY ARE ALL REGARDING THE SAME ISSUE, WHICH IS GREAT.
WE WANT TO HEAR FROM EVERYBODY SO IF YOU COULD JUST TRY FOR FACTUAL THINGS DO NOT BE REPETITIVE.
I THINK YOU'VE DONE A WONDERFUL JOB SENDING E-MAILS SO IF WE COULD JUST TRY TO BE RESPECTFUL OF TIME.
WE WILL BE RESPECTFUL OF YOURS COULD YOU WILL GET THREE MINUTE PAID IF YOU WANT TO TAKE THEM ALL, THAT IS YOUR RIGHT TO DO S PAID WHEN YOU GET UP THERE, YOU WILL HIT THE BUTTON AND YOU HAV 30 SECONDS LEFT AND WHEN YOU SE A TURN RED, KINDLY FINISH UP TH SENTENCE YOU ARE ON AND WE WILL GO FROM THEIR PARENTS SO FIRST UP, LUKE EDGERTON. AND ON DECK WILL BE ME.
I APOLOGIZE AN OFFENSE FOR ALL OF YOU.
MISS MOOSE LA? ANYTHING CLOSE TO THAT?
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LOTS OF HELP. THANK YOU FOR GIVING US THE TIM AND WE APPRECIATE YOU ALL SO MUCH.MY FAMILY HAS LIVED HERE SINCE WE WERE BORN.
IT WAS A GRAVEL ROAD WHEN WE WERE KIDS AND SO WE SAW TWO CAR AT DAY WHEN IT WAS A GRAVEL ROAD .
OBVIOUSLY WITH CARMEL'S DEVELOPMENT, WHICH HAS BEEN AWESOME, THE TRAFFIC HAS INCREASED.
I THINK THE PRIMARY CONCERN IS FOR OUR FAMILIES WITH YOUNG CHILDREN IS THAT FIRST AND FOREMOST THAT ROAD IS BEING USE AS A BYPASS FOR THE BOTTLE LOCK ON 421 AND 21ST OR 421 ANOTHER CROSS STREET SO PEOPLE ARE USIN IT DURING RUSH HOUR, WHICH MAKE SENSE TO BYPASS TRAFFIC BUT THE ARE USING IT AT RICH -- RUSH-HOUR SOBER TALKING 55 AND 60 MALICE IN OUR ON A 30-MILE A HOUR RESIDENTIAL STREET IF THAT MAKES SENSE.
THAT IS CONCERNED OF 1 AND CONCERN TO MECCAS IT HAS A REPUTATION OF BEING A DRAGSTRIP BECAUSE IT IS AN EXACT QUARTER-MILE. WHEN WE WERE KIDS WE WOULD DRIV OUR GO CARTS AND WHAT WE'VE SEE IS THAT OVER TIME IT HAS GAINED A REPUTATION OF BEING THE PERFECT QUARTER-MILE FOR GUYS T SHOW UP IN TESLA'S, DODGE CHALLENGER AND CORVETTES AND THEY JUST GO FROM THERE BUT THE ARE NOT OPENING IT UP DURING RUSH HOUR. THEY ARE OPENING IT UP WHEN EVERYONE IS RIDING BIKES AND GOING FOR WALKS PIECE OF THEIR OPENING UP ON THE NICE SUMMER MONTHS OF THE YEAR AND THEY'RE DOING IT BETWEEN SIX-9:00 P.M. AND THEN THEY TAKE A BREAK AND THEN THEY DO IT AGAIN AT 2:00 A.M. AND WAKE UP THE ENTIRE NEIGHBORHOOD PERSON IT HAS BECOME A NUISANCE OVER THE LAST FOUR DECADES IN TERMS OF SLEEPING THROUGH THE NIGHT.
THE REAL CONCERN IS SAFETY AND THE REASON WE'VE GOT 80% THRESHOLD IS BECAUSE 80% OF THE PEOPLE ON THAT STREET ■WANTTO RIDE BIKES AND WALK THE DOGS AN TAKE THEIR KIDS ON BIKE RIDES.
THE REASON WE DIDN'T GET 80% IS BECAUSE ALTHOUGH IT'S A GREAT SPACE, THEY ARE NOT IMPACTED BY THE SAFETY PART OF THE PROBLEM.
THERE IMPACTED BY THE INCONVENIENCE OF THE SPEED BUMP THAT WE ARE ASKING YOU TO INSTALL SO WE'VE BEEN CALLING O CARMEL FOR A LONG TIME TO INCREASE POLICING, WHICH HAS HELPED SOME AND THE SPEED SIGN, WHICH HAS HELPED SOME OF THESE ARE JUST BAND-AIDS TO THE SOLUTION -- TO THE PROBLEM THE SOLUTION IS SPEED BUMPS AND THAT IS WHY THE ARE EVERYWHERE ELSE IN THE CITY OF CARMEL.
SO WE ARE AT YOUR MERCY AND PLEADING WITH YOU TO ACT UPON THIS BECAUSE IF WE COULD PUT IN SPEED BUMPS, WE PUT HAVE DONE THAT ON OUR OWN BY NOW BUT WE WANT TO BE GOOD CITIZENS AND WE PAY TAXES LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE THAT WE EXPECT THE SAME DEGREE OF SAFETY THAT THE REST OF THE CITY ENJOYS AS WELL.
WE ARE REALLY AT YOUR MERCY WE TRUST YOU TO SUPPORT THIS AND W ARE DOING EVERYTHING THAT WE HAVE BEEN ASKED TO DO AND WE WERE A LITTLE ALARMED THAT IT CHANGE THE LAST SECOND, THIS PROCESS, BUT WE ARE STILL TRYIN TO COMPLY WITH THE RULES AND OF
THE WAYS. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
>> ON DECK WILL BE MISSES SNYDER .
>> I HAVE LEFT ON WEST ROAD FOR ALMOST 30 YEARS AND JUST LIKE H SAID, WHEN I FIRST MOVED OUT THERE, IT WAS VERY PEACEFUL.
MAYBE YOU WOULD SEE A CAR EVERY TEN MINUTES BUT IT HAS BECOME A CONSTANT-TRAFFIC IS CONSTANT GOING TO PARDON ME, I'VE NEVER SPOKEN IN PUBLIC BEFORE. IS CONSTANT AND I LIVE ON THE CORNER OF 131ST AND WEST AND I CAN TELL YOU THAT PEOPLE FELT DRIVE DOWN 131ST AND THEY ARE GOING TO FALL OUT EVEN THOUGH I IS 45 MILES AN HOUR AND THEN THEY WILL TURN ONTO WEST ROAD AND THEY HAVE HAD IT DONE RIGHT IN FRONT OF ME, STEP ON THE GAS.
IT IS LIKE HIM AT THE INDY 500 AND THEY JUST WANT TO BUSTED OU DOWN THE ROAD SO I'M AT THE END OF MY DRIVEWAY PICKING UP MY TRASH CANS AND I DON'T KNOW THI PERSON LOSES CONTROL AND I'M NO HERE ANYMORE BUT WE HAVE HAD PEOPLE END UP IN OUR FRONT YARD AND DESTROYED OUR THREES BECAUS THEY ARE GOING FASTS.
SO I AM IN FULL SUPPORT OF THES SPEED BUMPS.
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AND THIS IS JUST A LITTLE CAVEAT .AND HE'S IN A SIMILAR SITUATION. YOU MENTIONED ME IF THERE'S ANY KIND OF A QUESTION ABOUT THE SPEED BUMP, FOR EXAMPLE, WITH THE SNOWPLOWS AND MAYBE THAT WOULD PRESENT SOME SORT OF AN ISSUE. HE SUGGESTED THAT IF THAT HAPPENS TO BE SOMETHING THAT INSTEAD OF A SPEED BUMP, THAT W WOULD DO A DEPRESSION AND THEN THE SNOWPLOWS GO BRIGHTER BUT THE DEPRESSION SEE YOUR CARVING OUT A SECTION OF THE ROAD RATHE THAN PUTTING SOMETHING OVER THE TOP.
THAT IS ALL THAT I HAVE TO SAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
>> MISSES SCHNEIDER IS FOLLOWED BY, ON DECK WILL BE MR. BAUER.
>> AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SHARE OUR CONCERNS WITH THE SPEED ON WEST ROAD.
WE ALL MOVED IN TOGETHER AROUND 30 YEARS AGO AND I USED TO LOVE TAKING THAT SOUTH OF WHERE I LIVE TO SEE MY NEIGHBORS WALK THE DOG BUT I CAN'T DO IT ANYMORE.
I HAVE TO JUMP OFF THE ROAD AND THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT ARE EXCEEDING THE SPEED LIMIT BY 20- 30 MILES AN HOUR SO SOMETIMES I PACK UP MY DOG AND GO TO ANOTHER NEIGHBORHOOD I MISS SEEING MY NEIGHBORS THAT I USED TO BE ABLE TO SEE SO I AM NOT GOING TO REPEAT MYSELF, BUT I MISS THE PEACE AND QUIET THAT W USED TO HAVE BUT I HOPE WE GET BACK SOON AND THANK YOU FOR YOU
AND ON DECK IS MR. WATSON. >> LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE, I'LL TR TO BE ABLE TO BUT DIFFERENT THA WHAT EVERYBODY ELSE SAYS WE TALKED ABOUT THE QUARTER-MILE O THE SOUTH SIDE OF WEST ROAD, I JOG AND I'M ON THE QUARTER-MILE ON THE NORTH SIDE AND WHEN THEY GO AROUND THAT JOG, YOU CAN HEA THEIR ENGINES REVVING UP AND IT IS A SAFETY ISSUE PULLING OUT O OUR DRIVEWAYS.
IT WAS A COUNTRY PROUD AND THER IS BOUND TO BE MORE TRAFFIC.
WE DON'T HAVE SIDEWALKS OR CURBS .
IT IS STILL A COUNTRY ROAD THAT HAS WENT FROM GRAVEL TO ASPHALT UP WE DON'T HAVE THE AMENITIES. IT IS A SAFETY ISSUE.
WHEN YOU ARE OUT THERE IT IS FO 65 BASICALLY.
SO AGAIN, I'VE HAD PEOPLE DRIVE THROUGH OUR YARD AND I'VE HAD M MAILBOX HIT AND DESTROYED NUMEROUS TIMES AND IT IS DUE TO DISTRACTION AND DO TO SPEED AND ALL OF THOSE THINGS ARE COMING INTO PLAY HERE AND SO, AGAIN, W HAVE SIGNS WHERE THERE ARE SPEE LIMITS, BUT THOSE DON'T WORK. THE SPEED BUMPS, WHEN THEY WERE THERE TEMPORARILY DID WORK AND WE REALLY APPRECIATE THAT THOSE.
AND IT ISN'T INCONVENIENT FOR ALL OF A SUDDEN WISH WE DID NOT HAVE TO DO THAT BUT KIND OF AS LAST RESORT I DON'T KNOW WHAT ELSE TO TURN TO AND WE ASKING -- WE ARE ASKING YOU FOR THAT
IS MR. WATSON HERE. ARGUE FOR THIS, MR. WATSON IS EXPRESSING -- DEFERRING YOUR TIME?
>> THANK YOU, SIR. JAKE EDGERTON.
ON DECK WILL BE SAWYER HARGROVE. FIRST, THANK YOU FOR SPEAKIN WITH US ABOUT THIS I'M NOT GOIN TO SPEND A BUNCH OF TIME REITERATING WHAT MY BROTHER SAI BIT ABOUT ON THIS ROAD SINCE 1983 SO I'VE LIVED HERE QUITE A LONG TIME AND SEEN A LOT OF CHANGE HAPPEN. I LIVE ON THE VERY AND OF 121 ST AND WEST ROAD SO WHEN YOU TURN OFF 121ST STREET TO GET ON WEST ROAD, THAT IS WHERE THE CELEBRATION HAPPENS AT THE HIGHEST RATE OF SPEED. I HAVE THREE BOYS, 13, 11, AND YEARS OLD MY GREATEST CONCERN I CARS REACHING THE SPEEDS AND WERE TALKING NOT 40-50 MILES AN HOUR.
I KID YOU NOT, 90 PLUS AT TIMES. AND I HAVE VIDEOS OF THESE CARS RACING BY OUR STREET. AND THERE MAY BE A TRAGEDY I CANNOT UNDO. THESE CHILDREN THAT ARE NOT HER
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TO SPEAK FOR THEMSELVES, YOU PROBABLY CAN SEE HE IS SOMETHIN LIKE I WANT TO GET FIXED BECAUS I DON'T WANT THERE TO BE TRAGEDY. >> I AM GOING TO HOLD OFF BECAUSE YOU ARE ON A DIFFERENT SUBJECT JANINE.
I APOLOGIZE. AND ON DECK WILL BE MISSES SARA
THANKS FOR ALL THAT YOU DO. I FEEL EXCITED THAT WE GET THRE MINUTES BECAUSE I THOUGHT IT WA TWO AND I THOUGHT I'M GOING TO HAVE TO TALK REAL FAST I SLEPT WITH MY PIPE IN OUR TWO KIDS AT THE INTERSECTION OF WEST ROAD I 126 STREET.
OUR SEVEN-YEAR-OLD JUST INDEBTE DRIVE HIS BIKE WE'VE BEEN TRYIN TO BIKE TO THE VILLAGE WHEN WE GET FUN DAYS OR WHATEVER THE WEATHER IS NICE WE HAVE LIVED O WEST ROPER AS SOME OF THESE OTHER FOLKS. AT SPEND THE PAST FIVE YEARS THAT WE HAVE BEEN HERE. I LEBANON I LOVE THE NEIGHBORS AND IT'S WONDERFUL BUT THE CARS ARE REALLY SCARY, ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU HAVE A COUPLE OF EXCITED KIDS AND I'M YELLING AT THEM EVERY TWO SECONDS GET OVER IS A CAR.
I'M ALSO A PEDIATRICIAN AND A FORMER PEDIATRIC INTENSIVE CARE PHYSICIAN SO MY RESPONSIBILITIE ARE KEEPING KIDS SAFE AND INTERPRETING IN A WAY THAT KIDS CAN UNDERSTAND SO THE WAY MY BRAIN WORKS AS I SEE THIS INFORMATION AND IT SAYS HOW DO -- HERE ARE THE DATA AS I SEE THEM.
NUMBER ONE, THE SPEED LIMIT ON WEST ROAD IS 30 MILES AN HOUR.
NUMBER TWO HIM AS OTHERS HAVE SAID, MANY CARS ON WEST ROAD AR DRIVING MUCH FASTER THAN 30 MILES AN HOUR NUMBER THREE, SPEED BUMPS ARE A SAFETY TOOL T HELP DRIVERS OBEY THE SPEED LIMIT AND, NUMBER FORMAT, WE HAVE SPENT TEMPORARY SPEED DOES SO LOGICALLY IT MAKES SENSE THA THE SPEED BUMPS ARE AN EFFECTIV TOOL AND IT IS A GOOD IDEA TO PERMANENTLY PUT THEM IN PLACE.
I KNOW THERE WAS SOME OPPOSITIO THAT WAS THROWN OUT AND I WANT TO GIVE A LITTLE HISTORY THAT WHEN SEATBELTS WERE MADE MANDATORY IN THE EARLY 19 '80S , THE STATE REPRESENTATIVE INTRODUCE THE BIL COMPARING THEM TO HITLER SO THERE'S A LOT OF REALLY EMOTIONALLY DRIVEN PERSISTENCE TO THESE EVIDENCE-BASED SAFETY INTERVENTIONS AND THE IMPORTANT THING HERE IS THAT WE DO HAVE THE EVIDENCE AND WE KNOW THAT THE SPEED IS EFFECTIVE AND AS A FORMER PEDIATRIC DR. I SAT DOWN WITH A LOT OF FAMILIES AND SAID I HAVE TO GIVE YOU THIS NEWS BU YOUR CHILD IS NOT GOING TO SURVIVE THE INJURIES THAT THEY SUSTAINED FROM BEING HIT BY A CAR AND WE CURRENTLY DON'T HAVE BIKE MEMORIALS ON WEST ROAD AND I WOULD REALLY LOVE IT IF WE CA KEEP IT THAT WAY I AM HOPING YO WILL ALL SUPPORT IT AND I THANK
YOU FOR YOUR TIME. >> THANK YOU.
MISS COOPER. SO WE HAD QUITE A FEW PEOPLE SHOW UP TONIGHT SO I'M NOT GOIN TO GO THROUGH MY SPEECH THAT I HAD PREPARED BUT I DID SEND YOU AN E-MAIL AND I ALSO INCLUDED SOME VIDEO FOOTAGE OF NUMEROUS INCIDENTS THAT WE HAVE LITERALL DAILY AND WHEN I WAS SENDING TH E-MAIL THERE WAS SOMEBODY WHO WAS HONKING AT ANOTHER CAR AT THE INTERSECTION AND WE ARE RIGHT AT 126 AND THIS T IN THE ROAD IS VERY PROBLEMATIC WOULD HAVE MULTIPLE ACCIDENTS IN OUR BACKYARD AS WELL I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS THAT IT SHOWS IS OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, WE ALL TALK AND W PUT LIKE TO BE ABLE TO SAFELY -- MY SON IS FRIENDS WITH THE EDGE OF CONSENT BUT I DON'T WANT THE TO RIDE HIS BIKE DOWN THE ROAD TO VISIT THEIR HOUSE BECAUSE IT IS TOO DANGEROUS.
THE BUCKS -- THE BUS DRIVER IS THAT THIS ROA IS SO BAD AND I TRIED TO PULL INTO INTO THE MIDDLE-OF-THE-ROA SO NO CARS CAN GO AROUND ME IF EVERYONE NOTICES THIS, IT IS A REAL ISSUE AND LIKE PEOPLE IS THAT IT IS JUST A MATTER OF TIM BEFORE SOMETHING TRAGIC HAPPENS. THE OTHER THING I WANTED TO MENTION IS THAT I AM THE MOTHER OF AN AUTISTIC CHILD AT AUTISTI CHILDREN CAN BE EVEN MORE VULNERABLE AROUND TRAFFIC AND THEY CAN BE A LITTLE BIT UNPREDICTABLE IN SITUATIONS AND BECAUSE OF THIS I HAVE NOT FELT COMFORTABLE TEACHING HIM HOW TO WRITE HIS BIKE IN OUR DRIVEWAY AND IN OTHER PEOPLE OF MENTIONE THIS AND EVEN PLAYING BASKETBAL BECAUSE I DON'T WANT HIM TO GET TOO FOCUSED AND NOT REALIZE OUR HAVE SOMEBODY BE ON THEIR PHONE
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AND PULL INTO OUR DRIVEWAY. IT IS JUST A REALLY, IT IS UP REALLY PROBLEMATIC STRETCH OF ROAD.IT HAS GOTTEN INCREASINGLY WORS AND THE TRAFFIC STUDIES WERE DONE AND I THINK WE HAVE 1500 CARS THAT THEY GIVE OR TAKE THA GO UP AND DOWN THIS ROAD AND IT IS PARTICULARLY BAD AT RUSH HOU AND THAT IS WHEN CARS ARE GOING FAST AND IS PARTICULARLY BAD IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT. SO CARMEL HAS BUILT ITS REPUTATION AND BEING A CITY THA IS A GREAT PLACE TO RAISE FAMILIES AND KIDS WE ARE BASICALLY ASKING TO FOLLOW THROUGH ON THAT MISSION TO HELP OUR NEIGHBORHOOD HAVE THE ABILITY THAT OTHER NEIGHBORHOOD HAVE SAFELY AND TO PLAY OUTSIDE AND BIKE AND WALK OUR DOGS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
THAT IS ABOUT IT. >> THANK YOU.
MR. RICHARD. ANOTHER THING THAT HAS BEEN SET ALREADY FROM MY PERSPECTIVE AND MY FAMILY'S POINT OF VIEW.
I'VE GOT A FOUR-YEAR-OLD DAUGHTER THAT PLACE IN THE GARDEN IN THE YARD ALL THE TIME. IT ONLY TAKES ONE ACCIDENT TO KICK A BALL AND THEY KNOW NOT TWO GO ON THE ROAD BUT IN THAT TIME THEY COULD CHASE AFTER THE BALL.
THEY ARE IN THE ROAD AND THEY'R GOING TO GET SERIOUSLY HURT AGAIN LATE AT NIGHT, CARS ARE TEARING UP AND DOWN.
WE GOT A BABY WHICH IS DIFFICUL AT THE BEST OF TIMES OPEN HE HA WOKE UP IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT, IT IS DISTRESSFUL TO US ALL. THAT IS A FRISK OF REPEATING OF WHAT EVERYBODY ELSE SAID SO I WILL AND THERE.
>> MR. ROB COOPER. I AM A ROB, RICHARD'S BROTHER.
WE ARE ON A CORNER, JUST TO THROW A FEW FACTS OUT THERE BUT I THINK IT WAS 1700 CARS A DAY WITH AN AVERAGE SPEED OF AROUND 55-58 MILES AN HOUR. ALSO WITH LIVE AND A CONSERVATION CORRIDOR SO I KNOW A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE TRIED TO SAY THAT THEY BROUGHT THE SIDEWALKS INSTALLED TO RUN A CONSERVATION CORRIDOR WHICH THEIRS IS THEIR CHANCE OF SIDEWALKS BEING INSTALLED IN OU AREA BECAUSE THE ROAD IS TOO NARROW AND THE PROPERTY LINES RUN RIGHT UP TO THE SIDE OF THE ROAD AND SPEAKING ON SPEEDING, WE GOT A FEW PEOPLE IN OUR BACKYARD. SOME OF THEM HAVE BEEN WEATHER-RELATED, IT'S SNOWING, IF THEY WHISTLED OUT IT WOULD B WONDERFUL. THEY SLIDE RIGHT INTO OUR BACKYARD I HAVE PULLED THEM OUT. WE'VE HAD A FEW DRUNK ONES IN THERE AND THE POLICE HAVE BEEN CALLED AND THEY'VE BEEN TAKEN AWAY AND WE'VE ALSO HAD A COUPL OF YOUNGER KIDS WHO HAVE BEEN GIVEN HIGH-POWERED CARS FROM AN AFFLUENT AREA AND PEOPLE GET NICE PRESENTS FOR THEIR BIRTHDAY , BUT ONE OF THEM GROW SO FAST HE HIT A TREE AND AN IMPACT BROKE BOTH OF HIS WRISTS AND I HAD TO TAKE HIM TO THE HOSPITAL.
HE WAS IN MY BACKYARD PICKED SO I JUST DECIDED IT WAS EASIER TO TAKE HIM THERE. THIS SHOULDN'T BE A PROBLEM.
MY BROTHER AND I HAVE SOME LARGER EQUIPMENT THAT WE TRIED TO -- IT TAKES MAYBE 35 SECONDS WITHI THAT TIME AND WITH THE PEOPLE TRYING TO GET THROUGH CAUSING DANGEROUS ACCIDENTS AND THE NEIGHBORS HAVE TRIED TO LITIGAT THIS. AND UNDERSTAND THIS BEEN SOME OPPOSITION FOR PEOPLE ON BRANDO ORCHARD, THEY DON'T -- AND I THINK THERE BE -- THERE MAY BE SOME INFLUENCE ON THAT STREET THAT MAY BE SHOULD BE TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION.
DON'T THINK IT SHOULD BE TAKEN WITH -- I THINK IT SHOULD BE IGNORED. THEY DON'T PUT UP AT THE TRAFFI THAT WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH THAN AND THEY ARE VERY FAR BACK.
WITH TRYING TO CREATE A SAFE ENVIRONMENT FOR CHILDREN AND THERE ARE A LOT OF YOUNG KIDS BUT I DO THINK THE SPEED BUMPS WILL DEFINITELY HELP PICKED LET'S JUST HOPE THAT YOU GUYS CAN GIVE THIS ONE A THUMBS UP BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO SEE
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ANYBODY ELSE IN MY BACKYARD. NO MORE BROKEN BONES BUT ONE OF THEM WAS A MEDICAL STUDENT THAN YOU.>> CITY COUNCIL LEADERS THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME PET I VERY MUCH APPRECIATE IT. I AM JUST GOING TO ADD THAT MY NEIGHBORS HAVE EXPRESSED THE HIGH SPEED AND HEAVY TRAFFIC THAT HAS OCCURRED AND WE FLIPPE IN OUR HOME FOR UP OR 17 YEARS AND MY DAUGHTERS HAVE GROWN UP THERE.
WE ACTUALLY ARE THE ONES WITH THE BOULDERS AND WE GOT CITY APPROVAL BEFORE WE DID BUT THES LARGE BOULDERS, WE HAD CARS COM THROUGH, BELIEVE IT OR NOT AND WE'VE HAD CARS DEMOLISHED THREE TIMES OUR MAILBOX, COMPLETELY DEMOLISHED AND WE PUT A NEW ONE WE MOVED AT AND IT GOT SPLINTERED AGAIN.
AND WE'VE HAD CARS AND UPON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE BOULDERS AND THEN THEY FLED BECAUSE PROBABLY DWI.
WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY IS THAT NO MATTER WHAT WE DO COME IT SEEMS ON OUR PROPERTY, IT IS NO ENOUGH BIT THE SPEED BUMPS WOUL DECREASE AND DATA HAS SHOWN THAT .
IT WOULD DECREASE THE ONGOING SPEED FROM WEST 21ST TILL WEST 131ST. ANOTHER CHAPLAIN STATED EARLIER HE FREELY SHOULD BE GOOD COMPASSIONATE NEIGHBORS AND CITIZENS AND HAVE EMPATHY FOR ESPECIALLY OUR NEIGHBORS WHO DON'T EVEN HAVE THE LUXURY TO SEPARATE THEMSELVES FURTHER FRO THE STREET BECAUSE THEIR HOMES ARE SO CLOSE TO THE STREET AND FEAR FOR THEIR CHILDREN BECAUSE THESE DRIVERS HAVE ENDED THAT, AT LEAST OUR HOUSE HAS BEEN BACKWARD BUT THEY ENDED UP KILLING THE MATURE THREES THAT WE ARE TRYING TO PROTECT WITH THE BOULDERS. I URGE YOU TO BE COMPASSIONATE AND THINK ABOUT OUR GOOD CITIZENS AND NEIGHBORS AND SUPPORT THE SPEED BUMPS. THANK YOU.
>> OKAY, SAWYER. THANK YOU FOR BEING PATIENT.
GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS SAWYER HARGROVE AND I'M A MEMBER OF THE -- CITY COUNCIL.
I WANT TO SHARE A LITTLE BIT OF A DIFFERENT TOPIC BUT WHEN OUR COUNCIL'S PRESIDENT PROPOSED APRIL 1 MEXICAN CONCERNING THE NEW RULES, FOUR CERTAIN HOURS YOU CAN ONLY GO IN ONE DIRECTIO AND AS A RUNNER ON THE CROSS COUNTRY TEAM, HE'S ON ALMOST EVERY PRACTICE AND I WAS DUMBFOUNDED AND THEN I REALIZE THAT [INDISCERNIBLE] IT HIGHLIGHTS PHYSICAL FITNESS.
THAT ALLOWS RESIDENTS OF CARMEL TO HAVE ACCESS TO PAVED AND SAF AND CLEAN TRENT THAT ENCOURAGES PHYSICAL HEALTH.
ANOTHER INITIATIVE THAT IS IMPROVING THE COMMUNITY IS GETTING RID OF THE [INDISCERNIBLE] PROGRAM. AS MANY OF YOU KNOW, FRANKLY THAT'S IMPRESSIVE CONSIDERING THE WEATHER.
I FIND IT INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT THAT WE GROW UP IN A COMMUNITY THAT FOSTERS PHYSICAL FITNESS. AS A RUNNER, PHYSICAL EXERCISE IS PART OF MY LIFE AND I THINK MANY OF MY DAYS COULD BENEFIT FROM PHYSICAL ACTIVITY THAT NOT ONLY HELPS MAINTAIN A FUNCTIONA BODY BUT ALSO EMPLOYEE IMPROVES MY MENTAL HEALTH.
IT CONNECTS YOU TO THE WORLD OUTSIDE NATURE AND HOPE THAT OTHERS MY AGE CAN EXPERIENCE THIS.
AS A MEMBER OF THE YOUTH COUNCIL , I AM HERE NOT URGE MY FELLOW TEENAGERS TEASE MANY OF THE PUBLIC SPACES AVAILABLE AS MATURE YOUR WAY, MANY TEENAGERS USE PUBLIC SPACES LIKE MITTEN BUT I WOULD URGE THE OTHER YOUN PEOPLE TO USE OTHER PUBLIC SPACES THAT ARE AUTHORIZED BY THIS COUNCIL, PLACES LIKE -- A LOT OF PEOPLE IN A COMMUNITY TAKE THESE FOR GRANTED AND DON' HAVE ACCESS TO PLACES LIKE THIS AND I WOULD ENCOURAGE PEOPLE MY
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AGE GO TO THESE PLACES FOR PHYSICAL ACTIVITY AND TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THEIR TEENAGE YEAR BUT I HAVE GREAT MEMORIES HERE FROM WHEN I WAS YOUNGER AND I ENCOURAGE PEOPLE MY HD AGE TO STILL GO TO THESE PLACES. I THINK THEY MEAN A LOT TO ALL OF US. I ENCOURAGED THE BOARD TO SUPPORT ACTIVITIES LIKE THE MOA ON AND LIKE THAT.I THINK THAT IS VERY IMPORTANT TO BE FOCUSED ON PHYSICAL ACTIVITY SO I AM VERY APPRECIATIVE FOR THAT IS WELL-PAID THINK YOU ALL FOR YOU TIME AND THAT COUNSEL'S CONTINUED SUPPORT OF THIS PROJECT.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. GOOD EVENING CITY COUNCIL
[7. COUNCIL AND MAYORAL COMMENTS/OBSERVATIONS ]
MEMBERS. I WILL BE SHARING TONIGHT'S DEPUTY MAYOR REPORT. BE EXCITED TO SHARE THAT CARMEL HIGH SCHOOL TEAM IS RANKED NUMBER ONE IN THE WORLD.THIS IS A HUGE ACCOMPLISHMENT OUT OF MORE THAN 26,000 THAT COMPETED. THE TEAM OF 87 CARMEL STUDENTS CAME OUT ON TOP AND ALL THREE AREAS OF COMPETITION.
ON MAY 3, OUR COMMUNITY CELEBRATED THE SECOND ANNUAL JAPAN PAST. IT WAS A FUN DAY DEALT WITH CULTURE AND PERFORMANCES. THANK YOU TO EVERYONE WHO PARTICIPATED AND ATTENDED. THE MAYOR WANTS RESIDENTS TO NO THAT SHE WILL BE SPENDING TIME AT POSTING THOSE DATES THROUGHOUT THE DAY AND WELCOMES QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS BUT ALSO WE INVITE COMMUNITY MEMBERS TO STOP BY THE MAY 21 NEIGHBORHOOD POP-UP AT THE WETLAND NEIGHBORHOOD POOL PARKING LOT FROM 5:30-6:30:00 P.M. JUTTING THIS EVENT WILL BE CITY COUNSELORS AS WELL AS THE SCHOOLS AND PUBLIC SERVICE.
THIS IS A GREAT WAY TO ENGAGE WITH LEADERS AND PARTNERS.
AND MARK YOUR CALENDAR FOR FRIDAY, MAY 21 FROM 9-10:00 A.M FOR THE CITY OF CARMEL AND THE MEMORIAL DAY CEREMONY.
WILL TAKE PLACE AT THE VETERANS MEMORIAL PLASM PLEASE JOIN US A THIS IS AN IMPORTANT EVENT TO HONOR AND RENUMBER THE MANY VENDOR WOMEN WHO SERVED OUR COUNTRY.
WE WANT TO RECOGNIZE A SPECIAL GUEST WITH US.
IAN BOTT PLACED FIRST EARLIER THIS SPRING.
HE WILL BE HEADING TO WASHINGTON , DC, THE END OF THE MONTH TO COMPETE IN THE NATIONA SPELLING BEE LET'S CONGRATULATE
HIM TOGETHER. >> WOOD USED IN SO WE CAN.
[APPLAUSE] >> CAN YOU GO TO THE PODIUM, PLEASE. THIS EVENING BEFORE MICHAEL GOE INTO AN INCREDIBLE REPORT AND REMINDING US WHY CARMEL HAS THE MOST AMAZING PARKS IN THE WORLD AND -- AND BEFORE COUNSEL ARRIVES WITH PRETTY PICTURES FOR LIKE SECOND GRADERS, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE OU FIRST INAUGURAL CITY COUNCIL SPELLING BEE. ARE YOU READY?
>> YES. I'VE GOT TO BE ABLE TO READ THESE. ARCHITECTURAL CONTEXTUALIZATION.
THE SWORD UP WORD THAT CAUSES DEVELOPERS TO AGE AND WE SPENT COMMITTEE THAT DISCUSSED ARCHITECTURAL CONTEXTUALIZATION BEFORE WE EVEN KNEW WHAT IT MEANT.
. ARCHITECTURAL CONTEXTUALIZATION.
>> FANTASTIC. ROUNDABOUT OCCASION.
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STUDIES SHOW THAT IT REDUCES TRAFFIC TALENT TEASE AND GREATL INCREASES OUT OF TOWN CONFUSION. ROUNDABOUTIFICATION.AND FINALLY ONE THAT I CAN PICK OUT.
RECONTEXTUALIZATION. REPURPOSED TO THE SAME SPACE OR STRUCTURE. IT SOUNDS LIKE SOMETHING WE DO QUITE OFTEN RECONTEXTUALIZATION. [APPLAUSE]
>> ALL RIGHT, FANTASTIC. IN YOUR WORDS, WHAT ARE YOU MOS EXCITED ABOUT. YOU ARE CLEARLY REPRESENTING CARMEL WELL AND YOU JUST ARE GOING TO BE REPRESENTING CARMEL ON A NATIONAL STAGE BUT I JUST MADE THOSE THREE WORDS UP.
WHAT ARE YOU MOST EXCITED ABOUT. >> I MOST EXCITED ABOUT THE EXPERIENCE OF COMPETING ON SUCH A BIG STAGE BECAUSE I KNOW NOT MANY PEOPLE GET THIS KIND OF OPPORTUNITY SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE THE MOST OF IT BECAUSE EVE IF I DON'T WHEN THIS YEAR, I KNOW I HAVE NEXT YEAR AND THIS EXPERIENCE, EVEN IF I DON'T WIN IS GOING TO MAKE ME BETTER FOR NEXT YEAR AND MY FUTURE.
>> WE CLEARLY APPRECIATE YOU. YOU WANT TO COME UP YOUR GET SOME PHOTOS WITH THE FAMILY? [APPLAUSE] THANK YOU. THANK YOU.
[8. CONSENT AGENDA ]
COUNSELORS, ANY COUNSEL COMMENTS .MOVING ONTO THE AGENDA. APPROVAL OF MINUTES, APRIL 20 I SPECIAL MEETING, APRIL 20 REGULAR MEETING AND MAY 7,
SPECIAL CLAIMS MEETING. >> MOVE FOR APPROVAL.
>> SECOND. CLAIMS. GENERAL CLAIMS IN THE AMOUNT OF $1,876,091.47 BID BUYER TRANSFERS $9,486,000.912 -- $9,486,916.14.
[10. COMMITTEE REPORTS ]
COMMITTEE REPORTS. >> FINANCE COMMITTEE MET AND WE DISCUSSED THE VACATION OF PUBLI WAYS INCLUDING D-25-86 AND THES ITEMS WERE DISCUSSED AT LENGTH AND WERE SENT BACK TO THE FULL COUNCIL WITH POSITIVE RECOMMENDATIONS.
NEXT MEETING? >> THE NEXT MEETING IS ON THE 20 TH, WHICH IS ALREADY BEEN NOTICED AND IT WILL BE AT 5:30 PRE--- 5:30:00 P.M. HERE IN THE COUNCI
CHAMBERS. >> WE HAVE A SECOND MEETING SCHEDULED IF NEEDED TO BE HELD BEFORE THE COUNCIL MEETING ON
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JUNE 1 IN COUNCIL CHAMBERS AT 4:30 F REQUIRES.>> THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN TAYLOR. >> SO WE HAD OUR LAST LAND-USE MEETING ON APRIL 28 AND AT THAT TIME WE RETURNED THE TWO ORDINANCE PREVIOUSLY MENTIONED BY COUNCIL TAYLOR MAKING THE PUBLIC WAY 28TH S6 26 AND THEY WERE BOTH RETURNED TO COUNCIL WITH POSITIVE RECOMMENDATION WE ALSO RETURNED TO COUNCIL WITH A POSITIVE RECOMMENDATION OF HOMEPLACE SUB AREA PLAN AND THOSE ARE RETURNED THIS EVENING. OUR NEXT MEETING IS ALSO ON WEDNESDAY, THE 20TH, AT 5:30 AT CARMEL LIBRARY, FOR THOSE
THAT ARE INTERESTED. >> REPRESENTATIVE SNYDER.
>> I WOULD LIKE TO ATTEND THE MEETING SO WE CAN WORK OUT WHIC MEETING I ATTENDED THERE THEY'R BOTH SCHEDULE THE SAME NIGHT IN THE SAME TIME IN DIFFERENT LOCATIONS.
>> WE WILL BE SURE TO COMMUNICATE BETTER ABOUT THAT I THE FUTURE. AND HAPPY TO MEET WITH YOU AT
THE END THEY HAD. >> COUNCILMAN GREENE, BECAUSE O THE ITEMS BEFORE US RELATED TO THE BOD REFUND, WE WANTED TO GE THOSE DONE PRIOR TO THE NEXT MEETING.
>> I WOULD SAY THAT COUNCILMAN EVENING.
[11.a. Carmel Redevelopment Commission (Monthly) ]
>> THANK YOU, BOTH. MONTHLY REPORT COME PLEASE.
>> THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. I WILL QUICKLY GO THROUGH LAST MONTH'S ACTIVITIES. IF I CAN GET THAT ON THE SCREEN.
A BUSY WEEK OF CONSTRUCTION AND BUSY MONTH OF CONSTRUCTION.
IT'S NICE TO SEE THE NORTH LIVE IT UP AND IS NOW FIVE STORIES AND LOOKS GOOD AS PEOPLE DRIVE BY THEIR.
MAGNOLIA ON THERE LAST, I BELIEVE AND ALL OF MUS -- I HOPE PEOPLE HAVE HAD A CHANCE TO HAVE THEIR JAPANESE SUSHI OR SOME TACOS AND BEN & JERRY'S, THAT IS AMERICAN, I THINK.
CONDOS CONTINUE TO SELL. NACE CONSTRUCTION PROGRESS ON THE ICON AND THE PLAZA SHOULD B COMING THIS SUMMER.
IF YOU HAVE DRIVEN BY THIS SITE YOU'VE SEEN A HOLE IN THE GROUND . IT IS NICE TO SEE PROGRESS ON AMAZING PROGRESS AT THE CORNER THAT BEGINS TO TAKE SHAPE.
WE CONTINUE WORKING THROUGH WIT THE PARK SPREADS A LOT OF WORK HAPPENING ON THE NORTH END FACE TO MY SMAC.
BOTH THIS -- BOTH ARE AGE RESTRICTED PROJECTS . ARE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT THE COUNCIL MAY HAVE.
>> THANK YOU. THERE'S LOTS OF WORK THAT THE REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION IS DOING TO SEE THE PROGRESS ON THE . I WAS WALKING THIS WEEK AND ALONG ALUMNI WHERE -- ON THE SQUARE THAT IS UNDER CONSTRUCTION AND I DON'T KNOW I YOU COULD GET THE PUBLIC, AND SEVERAL PEOPLE ASKED ME WHEN WILL THIS BE FINISHED.
CAN YOU GIVE US A TIMELINE OF WHEN WE MIGHT SEE -- WHEN MIGHT WE SEE THOSE CHAIN-LINK FENCES GO DOWN AND
WHEN CAN I GET ON THAT SLIDE. >> THE MAYOR HAS ASKED NOT TO DISCLOSE IT BECAUSE THERE IS A HANG UP HERE THERE IS ONE POTENTIAL PITFALL BUT HOPEFULLY CARMEL FEST WILL HAVE THAT WHOL AREA OPEN AND KIDS ON THE PLAYGROUND.
ONE LITTLE HICCUP THAT COULD HAPPEN BETWEEN NOW AND THEN.
>> UP WE ARE SHOOTING FOR JULY. >> NOT SPECIFICALLY, BUT ESPN.
>> I THINK YOU ARE REFERENCING THE BUILDINGS ON THE SOUTH.
>> I AM ONLY TALKING ABOUT THE TRAIL.
>> ANYBODY ELSE? WE HAD A FANTASTIC PUBLIC DISPLAY OF VETERANS APART, WHIC IS ATTACHED TO THE PROJECT IT WAS UNVEILED FOR THE FIRST TIME AND IS A VETERAN DRIVEN DESIGN WITH THE PARKS BUT YOU KNOW WHE YOU MIGHT FEEL COMFORTABLE GETTING SOME OF THOSE RENDERING ON THE SLIDE FOR THE PUBLIC TO
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>> I LOVE IT. MIGHT PRESENTATION NEXT MONTH WILL REFLECT ACCURATE RENDERINGS .
[11.b. Carmel Historic Preservation Commission (Quarterly – January, April, July, October) ]
>> THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION.
>> GOOD EVENING. I HAVE A BRIEF REPORT THIS MONT BID THIS IS A REMINDER FOR THE FIRST QUARTER FOR JANUARY THROUGH MARCH FOR THE STEP HAS CONTINUED TO BE WORKING ON THE NORTH ROAD DISTRICT, WHICH WE TALKED ABOUT BEFORE THAT PLAN.
WE ARE JUST ABOUT DONE DOING AL THE DOCUMENTATION OF BOTH THE BUILDINGS THEMSELVES AND BACKGROUND.
AND WE HAVE MET WITH SEVERAL PROPERTY OWNERS INCLUDING MOST RECENTLY THE 500 BLOCK IN THE RANGE LINE AND WAS PLANNING A PROJECT IN 2027 SAW AND MADE THAT INDIVIDUAL AFFAIR AWARE OF THE COMING OF THE PLAN AND DESPITE BUDGET CUTS, THE COMMISSION DECIDED TO DO ANOTHE ROUND OF GRANTS.
AND WE HAVE RECEIVED TEN GRANT APPLICATIONS OR REQUESTS FOR THIS YEAR. KIND OF IN MARCH WAS SET ON VISITS WITH BOTH INDIVIDUALS THAT DID END UP APPLYING AND SOME THAT DIDN'T MEET WITH THEM AT THEIR PROPERTY AND TALKED WHAT THE SCOPE OF THE PROJECT MIGHT LOOK LIKE.
AND ALSO WHAT WE NORMALLY ARE DOING OVER THERE IS A PROPOSED DEMOLITION FOR A PROPERTY AND W ARE ALSO MEETING WITH PROPERTY OWNERS TO DISCUSS THEIR UPCOMIN PROJECTS AS WELL.
AND BECAUSE MAY IS NATIONAL HISTORIC PRESERVATION MONTH, THERE'S OTHER GOOD NEWS THAT ON EVERY TWO YEARS THE COMMISSION GETS REVIEWED BY THE INDIANA STATE PRESERVATION OFFICE BECAUSE THE CITY OF CARMEL AS A CERTIFIED LOCAL GOVERNMENT THROUGH THUMB NATIONAL PARK SERVICE AND DESIGNATION AND CREATION OF THE PRESERVATION COMMISSION SO THERE IS AN INDEPENDENT REVIEW OF THE WORK THAT THE COMMISSION DOES BOTH FROM DESIGNATION, SIGNIFICANT APPROPRIATENESS IN REVIEWING APPLICATIONS, EDUCATIONAL TRAINING THAT WE DO FOR THE COMMISSIONERS, ET CETERA. AND WE PASSED WITH FLYING COLOR AND JUST THOUGHT I WOULD SHARE LET YOU ALL KNOW TOO.
>> HAS THE NUTHOUSE COME TO YOU COMMITTEE YET?
>> NO. I MIGHT NOT RECOGNIZE THAT BY THAT NAME. IT IS NOT ON THE SURVEY THAT WA PREVIOUSLY ADOPTED BY CITY COUNCIL AND MEANS THE COMMISSIO DOES NOT SEE IT AS PART OF A DEMOLITION.
WE HAVE SEEN SOME DOCUMENTS FRO AN ARCHITECT TO BELIEVERS TRIED TO REPLICATE THE LOOK OF THE HOUSE VERY CLOSELY.
FINALLY I THINK NEARLY EVERY COUNSELOR -- WE TALKED ABOUT NORTH RANGE ROA AND THAT IS A POTENTIAL OVERLAY FOR THAT MY I BELIEVE IF MY MEMORY SERVES, THERE'S RESEARCH TO BE DONE AND IS THERE A TIMELINE THAT YOU WILL BE WRAPPED UP AND THEN YOU CAN PRESENT THE LAND USE COMMITTEE AND WE CAN START WORKING ON WHA ARE SOME OPTIONS.
>> PROBABLY LATE NEXT MONTH OR EARLY JULY IS WHEN WE WILL BE DONE AND HAVE IT READY TO GO. I REMEMBER THAT DOCTOR JOSHI FRONT OF US ON THAT TIMELINE SO I HAVE THAT AS WELL.
>> LET'S GO TO LAND-USE. EXPECTS THINK YOU.
[11.c. Audit Committee (Bi-annual – May, October) ]
>> AUDIT COMMITTEE. >> GOOD EVENING, EVERYONE.
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I AM ONE OF THE ARCHITECTS FOR THE CITY OF CARMEL.I'M NOT GOING TO TAKE MUCH TIME HERE.
IT STARTED APRIL 1 AHMAD 2026 AND IS SET TO BE COMPLETED IN JUNE OF 2026. THE FINANCIAL REPORT FOR THE FISCAL YEAR 2024 MEET THE REQUIREMENTS TO BE AWARDED THE CERTIFICATE OF ACHIEVEMENT AND IMPROVEMENT.
THE HIGHEST FORM OF COMMISSION AND FINANCE REPORTING PERIODS S CONGRATULATIONS TO EVERYBODY WORKING VERY HARD.
>> CAN YOU TELL HIM HOW MANY YEARS WE'VE GOT THAT ACHIEVEMENT
? >> I BEEN ON THIS FOR THE LAST FOUR YEARS THAT I'VE BEEN NOTICING THAT I DON'T KNOW
BEYOND THAT. >> SO FOR AT LEAST THE LAST FOU
YEARS. >> I WILL HAVE THE ANSWER FOR
YOU NEXT WEEKEND. >> YOU SAID THE CURRENT CITY AUDIT WILL BE WRAPPED UP BY JUNE .
>> ESPN. >> THANK YOU FOR INCLUDING THE AUDIT COMMITTEE ON YOUR CORRESPONDENCE.
IT MAKES THE COMMITTEE MORE RELEVANT.
[11.h. Parks Department (Quarterly – February, May, August, November) ]
MR. MICHAEL GLISSON. >> THANK YOU FOR NOT ASKING ME ANY SPELLING QUESTIONS BEYOND PARKS.
>> THAT DEPENDS ON HOW LONG YOU GO.
>> NUMBERS THE COUNCIL COMMITS MY PLEASURE TO PRESET MY QUARTERLY REPORT TO YOU. BRN MAY COME UP WHICH MEANS IT IS THE START UP OUR PEAK SUMMER SEASON AND THE WATERPARK OPENS UP THIS SATURDAY AND IT IS OPEN DAILY 11-7 AND WE BEGIN OUR BACK-TO-SCHOOL HOURS OR CLOSE PEAK SEASON HOURS WERE WE PULPY ONLY OPEN WEEKENDS WHEN THE KID ARE BACK IN SCHOOL.
WE ARE EXCITED TO HAVE THE WATERPARK OPEN SOON AGAIN.
IS NOT OPEN TODAY BECAUSE -- I JUST GOT A NOTICE AND SUMMER CAMPS BEGIN ON WEDNESDAY, MAY 27 , AND THE LAST IF SCHOOL IS ACTUALLY DOES AND GIVES US A MUCH EASIER TIME FRAME BECAUSE THE NUMBER OF THE CAMPS TAKE PLACE IN SEVERAL OF THE SCHOOLS.
OUR FIRST DAY OF OPERATIONS ARE WEDNESDAY BECAUSE THE NEED TO GET THOSE SCHOOLS MOBILIZED SO WE CAN START SETTING UP FOR CAMP . NINE APART TEN WEEKS OF SUMMER CAMPS ARE BETWEEN 99 AND 100% AVAILABILITY ON WEEK ONE.
WHICH 6 INCLUDES THE FOURTH OF JULY WHICH IS ONE OF THE LIGHTE WEEKS. IF YOU'RE LOOKING FOR WEEK 1 OR AVAILABLE QUICKLY. PLEASED TO REPORT THAT THANKS T FUNDING THROUGH THE CITY COUNCI PROGRAM THAT PROVIDED A BUNCH O STRUCTURE STRUCTURAL FUNDS THAN WE ARE HAVING OUR KICKOFF THERE OFFICIAL NAME TO BE ANNOUNCED A SOME LATER DATE.
SO ANY POINT INTERESTED IN LEARNING A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOU THAT, WE CERTAINLY WELCOME YOU TO THAT KICKOFF.
ALSO IN SPEAKING TO THE QUESTIO ABOUT VETERANS PARK, WE DID PRESENT PLANS WHICH WAS RECEIVE VERY WELL LAST TUESDAY THAT MEETING WAS RECORDED SO THIS IS AN ABBREVIATED VERSION OF THAT.
IT SAYS TO BUT WE ARE ENVISIONING FOR VETERANS PARK.
THIS PROJECT IS MADE POSSIBLE THROUGH COLLABORATION WITH THE DEVELOPMENT COMMISSION. WE ARE SUPER EXCITED ABOUT AND WORKS WITH PROPERTY AS WELL AS THE ACCESS COMING OFF OF THE STREET I'M NOT GOING TO GO OVER EVERY ELEMENT THAT IS ON THIS ASSEMBLY. YOU CAN GO THE WEBSITE AT KARL
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CLAY PARKS.COM. THIS AND NUMBER OF THOSE WILL CELEBRATE THE VETERANS IN THE OPPORTUNITIES WHETHER IT IS ABOUT THE BRANCHES AND WITH A BRIDGE TO CARMEL TO CELEBRATE OUR VETERANS BE SO SOME AT ON THE NERVE ENDS OF VETERANS PARK.GOING INTO THE PARK IN MANY WAYS , THE GREENWAY BECOMES THE MAIN ENTRANCE INTO THIS PARK. ESPECIALLY GOING SOUTH, WE ARE SEEING AND HE WAS GOING INTO TH PORCH AREA AND ONE OF THE THING HE COULD HARDLY SEE ON HERE, YO SEE RED FLOWERS AND THOSE REPRESENT POPPIES. AND WE HONOR THE VETERANS HAVE HELPED TO CORPORATE WITHIN THE PARK.
BUT YOU SEEM SELECTED BASICALLY IN THE BEIJING CARRY OUT IS FOR FIREPLACE IT INCLUDED REPRESENTATIVES FROM THE VFW AN AMERICAN LEGION AS WELL AS COMMUNITY MEMBERS.
THE DESIRE FOR FIRE AS WELL AS WATERPARK ELEMENTS OF THE FIRE INSIDE OF A PLACE FOR EVERYONE CAN GATHER AROUND AND TELL STORIES AND JUST RELAX AND THAT FRONT PORCH, IF YOU WILL AND ALSO BE ABLE TO ENJOY THE PASSERSBY ON VETERANS GREENWAY.
THAT IS ALL THAT IS LEFT ON THA PICTURE.
WE HAVE SWING'S STRUCTURES. IT PROVIDES OVERUSE TO THOSE AREAS OF THE PARK. WE USUALLY THINK OF CARMEL AS BEING PRETTY FLAT AND THERE'S SOME TALK ABOUT A FEE IN THIS SITE AND BASICALLY IT SLOPES FROM THE WEST WE SEE THE BUILDINGS ON THE BACKSIDE TO TH EAST WHERE YOU SEE THE GREENWAY AND FROM THE NORTH WHERE YOU AR LOOKING CLOSEST TO YOUR RIGHT SIDE TO THE SOUTH. SO WE ARE INCORPORATING THAT SO THERE ARE SEVERAL LAYERS DID THIS PARK AND THE FRONT PORTION ALSO BEING THE FRONT YARD WHERE THERE ARE OPPORTUNITIES FOR PERPLEXING ON A GREEN, PLAYING PICKLE BALL -- NOT PICKLE BALL. I DON'T KNOW WHERE THAT CAME FROM. OR CORN HOLE.
ALSO AS WE MOVE AROUND LOOKING NORTH, YOU CAN KIND OF SEE A BIGGER OVERVIEW OF THE PARK AND THIS PROJECT HAS DOES SERVE STORMWATER NEEDS FOR THIS PORTION OF THE COMMUNITY ESPECIALLY WITH THE CLUB AS WEL AS THE PARK SO INSTEAD OF HAVIN A BIT VERY STERILE POND IN THIS AREA, WE CERTAINLY TRY TO DRESS IT UP WITHIN THE PARK. THERE'S OPPORTUNITIES TO GET OVER THE WATER AND WE SEE AREAS COMING UP IN THE MIDDLE PART HERE. THERE'S SIX BRANCHES OF THE MILITARY SO THERE IS HOMAGE TO OUR MILITARY M AND -- AND MEN THAT ASSERTED. THE GREENWAY IS ENVISIONED TO INCORPORATE GOODS, WHICH IS OWNED BY CARMEL CLAY SCHOOLS AN WITH THAT WITHOUT SCHOOL POOR AND HAVE AN OVERVIEW OF PLANS AND BEGIN PROCESSING THE FORMAL EASEMENT AND PERMISSION TO USE THEIR PROPERTY. LIKE I SAID, THERE'S ALSO ELEMENTS THAT BRING IN A NEW INTRIGUE INTO THE PARK ON THE WEST SIDE. THAT ANY CORPORATE PROPERTY CURRENTLY OWNED BY VFW AND WE'V HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH THEM AND THEY ARE VERY RECEPTIVE TO THES PLANS.
A LOT MORE DETAILS ABOUT THIS PARK.
AND THAT WAS THE SAYING THAT WA -- OR IF YOU'RE REALLY INTERESTED IN GOING TO A BOARD MEETING, WE WILL HAVE A FULL OVERVIEW OF TH PARK AND WE ARE SUPER EXCITED ABOUT IT THINGS DO THAT VETERAN AND THEIR FEEDBACK ON IT.
AND OTHER PROJECT THAT WAS FUNDED --
>> CAN YOU BACK UP A SLIDE. >> ESPN.
>> I WANT TO POINT OUT THE VERY NORTH WHERE IT LOOKS LIKE IT IS GOING INTO THE BUILDING, THAT I NOT DESIGNATED ACCESS AND THAT GOES INTO THE PUBLIC RESTROOMS. THAT IS AN EXCELLENT POINT.
IT'S PART OF THE COLLABORATION WITH THE CRC CSC A DEVELOPER
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PICKED THEY ARE PROVIDING THE PUBLIC RESTROOMS FOR THIS PLACE RESPONSIBLE FOR MAINTAINING ON THE CAPITAL SIDE AS WELL AND IN THE RESTROOM THAT ARE AVAILABLE FOR THE VISITORS.THAT IS NOT AN EASY ACCESS NECESSARILY FOR THE PRECEDENCE AND ARE DESIGNED TO BE AN AMENITY FOR THE PUBLIC.
IN THE PARKING STRUCTURE IS LOCATED WHEN THIS BUILDING AND PARKING IS INDICATED FOR PURPOSES OF THIS IS NOT A PARK.
>> ANOTHER PROJECT TO DEVELOP, PROVIDED SOME ILLUSTRATIONS TO OVERLOOK THE TRAIL COMPONENTS O THE PARK.
THERE'S A NUMBER THROUGHOUT THE PARK SYSTEM.
AND MEADOWLARK PARKED THE NEW STRUCTURE, ONE ON BOULEVARD.
THEY HAVE DESIGNED FOR US THE NEW PLAYGROUND FOR THIS PARTICULAR PARK, SIMILAR TO -- AND HE GOES TO LOOK AROUND THE SIDE AND WE HAVE DIFFERENT SLIDES GOING DOWN THE FIELD INT THE PLAYGROUND AND ALSO PROVIDE AN ACCESSIBLE ROUTE WITHIN THE PARK AND GOING UP A LITTLE BIT CLOSER, THE SIGNS FOR THIS PLAYGROUND, IT WILL BE A PLAYGROUND REALLY UP THE SCOPE AND SCALE THAT IS NEEDED FOR NORTHWEST CARMEL, ONE OF THE MOST UNDERSERVED THAT THERE IS AS FAR AS PLAYGROUNDS AND PARKS GO SO WE ARE EXCITED ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR PLAYGROUND AND THEN LAST WEEK ALREADY IT SEEMS LIKE MONTHS AGO IN SOME WAYS THAT WE DID EXPERIENCE A FIRE ON OUR MAINTENANCE FACILITY WITHIN CENTRAL PARK AND THIS IS A BARN AND IS NOT ONE OF THE AREAS WHERE OUR STAFF IS STATIONED OU OFF BUT THAT IS WHERE OUR EQUIPMENT IS STATIONED OUT OF. ON THE GROUND 545 PLUS OR MINUS IS WHEN THE FIRE OCCURRED NO STAFF WAS IN THE BUILDING AT TH TIME AND STAFF THAT WAS ON DUTY WAS IN THE PARKS SURFACING AT AND THE REST WERE HOME FOR THE DAY.
IT WAS ORIGINALLY REPORTED TO 911 OF THE CHALLENGES THAT IT I EFFECTIVELY A FOLD LOSS OF THE FACILITY AND MUCH OF THE EQUIPMENT WAS IN THERE, WE HAVE FOUR OF OUR FIVE DVDS WHICH WER ON GREENWAY AND ASSETS WITHIN THE CENTRAL CORE IN A NUMBER OF OUR OTHER WORK IN THE BARN AS WELL.
WE HAVE MET WITH INSURANCE, WHICH HAS BEEN VERY RESPONSIVE RESTORATION COME COPY COME TO THAT THAT USEFULNESS ALL BEEN O ON-SITE WEASLEY AS FRIDAY THAT IS HELPING US NAVIGATE THAT PROCESS WE HAVE THEIR AUTHORIZATION TO REPLACE ALL TH HAND TOOLS THAT WERE LOST IN TRIMMERS AND THINGS LIKE THAT I DO WANT TO GIVE A BIG SHOUT OUT TO THE CITY OF CARMEL IN THE STREET DEPARTMENT AND OTHER DEPARTMENTS THAT I PROVIDED US EQUIPMENT TO BRIDGE THE GAP UNTIL THE NEW EQUIPMENT COMES W CAN CONTINUE TO SERVICE THE PARKS AT A HIGH LEVEL.
BUT FOR THE BIGGER EQUIPMENT, W BELIEVE THERE MAY BE THERE IS A SLIGHT CHANCE THAT SOME OF THE EQUIPMENT ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE BARN MIGHT BE SALVAGEABLE I DON'T KNOW THAT DEFINITIVELY AN WE ARE NOT ALLOWED TO GO INTO THE STRUCTURE QUITE YET BUT THERE MAY BE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SAVE SOME OF THE EQUIPMENT WITH A LITTLE BIT OF REFURBISHMENT BUT WE WILL WORK CLOSELY TO GET THAT RESOLVED. OBVIOUSLY THIS IS A COVERED EXPENSE AND WILL TAKE SOME TIME TO PROCESS.
>> WE ARE COVERED UNDER THE CIT POLICY.
EMINENT REIMBURSEMENT COMES, IT WILL GO TO THE GENERAL FUND.
JUST THE THREE APPROPRIATION RIGHT NOW SO THERE'S NO DELAY I GETTING THE MONEY TO THEM. YOU ARE READY TO GO.
WHAT IS INTERESTING ABOUT THE FIRES THE TIMING IS GOOD BECAUS OF THE PEAK SEASON WE ARE ALSO IN THE PROCESS OF PREPARING THE
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FEASIBILITY STUDY TO LOOK AT OU EXISTING STRUCTURES FOR SERVICING AND MAINTAINING OUR PARK PARKS SYSTEM WE ARE HOUSE LITERALLY IN THE NINTH -- AS WELL AS THE SECOND ROUGHLY 40 'S HOUSE AND FOR ADMINISTRATIVE FUNCTIONS.WE MOVED IN ABOUT 20 YEARS AGO FOR MAINTENANCE LITTLE OVER 20 YEARS AGO AND IT WAS ALWAYS ENVISIONED AS A TEMPORARY LOCATION UNTIL WE IDENTIFIED SOMETHING ELSE AND IT ALSO PROVIDED THE MEANS FOR US TO FOCUS OUR ATTENTION ON THE DEVELOPMENT OF CENTRAL PARK WISHES ABOUT THE TIME THAT WE MOVED INTO THIS FACILITY AND I WAS ALSO PERSISTENT BECAUSE I LIKE OUR OFFICES BUT AS OUR PARKS SYSTEM HAS CONTINUED TO GROW IN THE LAST TEN YEARS, THERE'S A NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT ARE BASED OUT OF OUR FACILITIES FROM 19-20 EMPLOYEES.
YOU SAW SOME OF THE PROJECTS THAT WERE IN THE WORKS.
WE HAVE EXPANDED A LOT WITHIN OUR PARKS WITHIN THE LAST 10-20 YEARS AND FOR BASICALLY BURSTIN ONTO THE SCENE OF FACILITIES THAT WERE NOT DESIGNED FOR WHAT'S BEING USED AND WE'VE DON SOME ASSISTS -- ASSESSMENTS AND THEIR STRUCTURE NEEDS JUST TO SUSTAIN THE EXISTING STRUCTURES WITHOUT MAKING UPGRADES TO EXPAND THEM AND OR MAKE THEM ACCESSIBLE.
SO WE FELT THAT AN HOUR MASTER PLAN, THE TWO PREVIOUS ONES AS WELL IS SOMETHING THAT WE CAN IMPLEMENT.
IT'S AN APPROPRIATE TIME TO TAK A SERIOUS LOOK AT WHAT IS POSSIBLE. DOING AN ASSESSMENT OBVIOUSLY W ALREADY OWN THE PROPERTY AND IT IS ALONG 116TH STREET IN THE EAST AND WEST CONNECTION TO OUR PARKS.
IN THE FUTURE BEAR CREEK PARK O THE EAST SIDE OF THE COMMUNITY AND ALSO IT IS IN CLOSE PROXIMITY TO CENTRAL PARK ON GREENWAY AND PROVIDES THAT ALL THE ASSETS WITHIN THE CENTRAL CORE IN CENTRAL PARK AND ON GREENWAY, OF COURSE.
IS CENTRALLY LOCATED IN THIS PORTION OF THE PARK THAT IS ALREADY NOT AVAILABLE FOR PUBLI USE OF WE ARE LOOKING AT, GIVEN THE COST OF LAND WITHIN CARMEL, TO BUY SOMEPLACE ELSE YOU HAVE THE ADDITIONAL COST TO DEVELOP WHAT YOU NEED.
WORKING WITH ENGINEERS AND ARCHITECTS, PETE LOOKED OUTSIDE CONSTRAINTS AND BASICALLY EVERYTHING THAT IS IN THE BLUE AND MOST OF THE MAP, THAT IS TH FLOODPLAIN FOR CARMEL PREPARED THAT SEVERELY LIMITS AND CREATE HURDLES FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE SIDE. AND THE CIRCULAR THING ON THE UPPER RIGHT CORNER FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE DOG PARK AND THE PARKING LOT THAT WE HAVE THERE.
SO THAT LITTLE WHITE AREA UNDERNEATH THE SETBACKS FOR 106 TH STREET IS THE ONLY AREA THAT WE HAVE THAT IS VIABLE FOR NEW STRUCTURES AND ESPECIALLY STRUCTURES THAT ARE NAVIGATED B PEOPLE AND BASED ON THAT WE COM UP WITH A CONCERT PLAN AND THIS IS A FEASIBILITY STUDY AND IS LOOKING AT THE SPACE THAT WE NEED AS TO HOW YOU CAN USE THE LAND POTENTIALLY AND THE.
>> ON THE BOTTOM, THAT WAS THE ONLY STRUCTURE THAT THEY WERE PLANNING ON SAVING. LOOKING AT POTENTIAL COMPOUND, PROJECTED COSTS ARE ROUGHLY 7- $8 MILLION IN VERY PRELIMINARY DOLLAR AMOUNTS. BUT THIS ALSO DOES THAT IT ACTUALLY CREATES A PURPOSEFUL OFFICE FACILITY FOR OUR MAINTENANCE AND ADMINISTRATIVE FUNCTIONS.
BECAUSE WE ARE IN HOUSES, WE AR NOT THE MOST EFFICIENT USE OF SPACES AND OUR OPERATION SIDE, PARKS AND NATURAL RESOURCES TEA WHICH IS WHERE MUCH OF THE GROWTH HAS BEEN IS BUSTING AT THE SEAMS IN THEIR HOUSE. WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING BASED ON THE SPACE NEEDS IDENTIFIED IS INCREASING THE AMOUNT OF SQUARE FOOTAGE AVAILABLE FOR THEIR STAFFING PURPOSES FROM 2500 TO 3500 CONVERSELY THE ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICES HAS A LO OF WASTED SPACE. WE CAN REDUCE THE AMOUNT OF SQUARE FOOTAGE AND INCREASING FOR POTENTIAL GROWTH TO ABOUT 4300 SQUARE FEET SO TRY TO USE SOME SPACE MORE EFFICIENTLY.
AGAIN WE ARE IN THE FEASIBILITY STAGES AND MORE DETAILED
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PLANNING FOR THIS. AND THEY START HAVING CONVERSATIONS FOR THE PARK BOAR WITH ELECTED OFFICIALS LET GIVE A SIMILAR PRESENTATION TO THE CLAY TOWNSHIP BOARD.SOMETHING THAT WE ARE WORKING O WITH THE LOSS OF THE BARN, WERE GOING TO NEED TO DO SOMETHING T REPLACE THAT A LITTLE BIT SOONE THAN WHAT OUR PLANNING IS BUT W WANT TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION PROVIDING THE RIGHT TYPE OF ASSETS FOR EXPANDING PARK SYSTEMS. I'VE TOLD NUMEROUS PEOPLE WHEN I'VE GIVEN TOURS THAT ONE OF TH TRULY GREATEST PARK SYSTEMS IS ONE OF THE WORST OPERATIONS FACILITIES WHEN WE GO ON ACCREDITATION VISITS ACROSS THE COUNTRY TO AGENCIES THAT NECESSARILY DON'T HAVE THE AMENITIES THAT WE HAVE AT THEIR MAINTENANCE FACILITIES. SO IN ORDER TO OBTAIN ABLE TO CONTINUE THE LONG-TERM SUSTAINABLE PARK SYSTEM, YOU HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY HAV THE RIGHT ASSETS TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT. SO THE BEGINNING OF THE CONVERSATIONS, I DIDN'T WANT T BRING TO YOUR ATTENTION THAT WE ARE SERIOUSLY LOOKING AT THEM. AND FINALLY I AM PLEASED TO ANNOUNCE THAT CARMEL PARKS AND RECREATION HAS BEEN NAMED FOR THE NATIONAL GOLD MEDAL AWARD FOR PARKS AND RECREATION MANAGEMENT. THIS IS THE THIRD TIME THAT WE'VE HAD TWO PREVIOUS TIMES AN THE RESULTED IN US WINNING AND WE WILL NOT KNOW WHO THE WINNER IS UNTIL OUR INITIAL CONFERENCE ON SEPTEMBER 30 BUT WE ARE SUPE EXCITED ABOUT ADAGES TO PUT IN PERSPECTIVE, THIS SUPPORTS PROGRAM WAS AWARDED IN 1965 AND DURING ITS HISTORY ONLY 222 AGENCIES HAVE EVER PERCEIVED THAT GOLD MEDAL AWARD AT LEAST ONCE.
ONLY FIVE OF THE STATE OF INDIANA.
THERE ARE 19,495 CITIES, TOWNS, AND VILLAGES WITHIN THE UNITED STATES BE A 3,143 COUNTIES AND PARISHES AND 50 STATES, THEIR 1 US TERRITORIES AND THERE ARE APPROXIMATELY 800 MILITARY INSTALLATIONS AROUND THE WORLD. ALMOST EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THOS HAS SOME TYPE OF PARK SYSTEM THAT IS ELIGIBLE FOR THE NATIONAL GOLD MEDAL AWARD. ONLY 22 AGENCIES AND IN HISTORY OF THE PROGRAM, LESS THAN 1% IN THE COMMUNITIES HAVE EVER RECEIVED THIS AWARD. WE HAVE A CHANCE TO WIN AT THE THIRD TIME. PLEASED TO PROVIDE THE LEVEL OF SERVICE TO OUR COMMUNITY THAT ALLOWS US TO BE CONSIDERED FOR THIS TYPE OF AWARD. IT IS NOT ABOUT THE HARDWARE IT IS NOT ABOUT THE ACCREDITATION. YOU DO THOSE AS VALIDATION TO MAKE SURE WE ARE INDUSTRY-LEADING IN SERVING OUR COMMUNITY AT THE HIGHEST LEVEL BUT THAT IS WHY WE DO IT TO MAK SURE WE ARE SERVING THE COMMUNITY AT THE HIGHEST LEVEL BUT THAT IT WOULD BE HAPPY TO ADDRESS ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE.
>> THIS IS JUST A QUESTION THAT I DIDN'T ASK DURING THE REDEVELOPMENT COMPONENT BUT VETERANS PARK RELIES HEAVILY ON PUBLIC AND PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP OF THE DEVELOPER HAS THE DEVELOPER CLOSED ON FINANCING AND WHERE WE ARE AT WITH THAT
PROJECT. >> I WILL HAVE TO DEFER TO THE
DIRECTORS. >> THEY ARE IN DESIGN.
HAVING MEETINGS WITH THE LENDER AND I SUSPECT IS BE CONTINUED THIS DESIGN, IT'S GOING TO GO TOWARDS CLOSING BUT WE ARE NOT TAKING TITLE TO THE PROPERTY UNTIL THE DEVELOPER CLOSES.
OKAY. IS THERE AN ESTIMATED TIMELINE.
>> I WILL CHECK WITH THE DEVELOPER.
>> FANTASTIC. GOOD JOB BEING NOMINATED FOR A THIRD GOLD MEDAL AND I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO POINT OUT, I TELL PEOPLE YOU'VE DONE SO WELL. THEY DON'T LET YOU APPLY EVERY YEAR. THE MORATORIUM IS UP THIS YEAR AND I DO AGREE WITH YOU THAT IN MY 43 YEARS I'VE NEVER HEARD ANYBODY ONCE SAY ANYTHING BUT POSITIVE WORDS ABOUT OUR DEPARTMENT AND FROM THE DAY CAMP , MANY OF US USE DURING THE SUMMER TO FACILITIES AND OPERATIONS TO CUSTOMER SERVICE, THERE IS NO ORGANIZATION OR ENTITY ACROSS THE UNITED STATES
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THAT SERVES THE PEOPLE BETTER THEN YOU BOTH, THE PUBLIC AND THE CONSTITUENTS AND PRESIDENTS AND GENERAL PUBLIC AND STAFF.AND I CANNOT IMPRESS UPON THE PUBLIC ENOUGH HOW IMPORTANT THA
>> EVERYTHING THAT MATT SAID. I JUST WANTED TO TELL YOU THAT WE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO VISIT THE WHITE RIVER GREENWAY ON MOTHER'S DAY AND I HAVE TO SAY TO EVERYONE OUT THERE THAT IF YOU'D NOT BEEN OUT TO THE OVERLOOK COME TO NEED TO GO AND SEE A BIT IT IS UNBELIEVABLE AN I AM REALLY EXCITED FOR THE PAT TO CONTINUE NORTH SO THAT IT MAKES A COMPLETE, WHAT IS THE WORD, I CAN'T EVEN THINK. THANK YOU.
I JUST WANTED TO SAY TO EVERYON OUT THERE GREAT WORK.
THE BATHROOMS ARE NOT COMPLETED YET I NOTICED BUT WE TALKED
ABOUT THAT LAST TIME. >> ABSOLUTELY.
FOR THE BATHROOMS, WE JUST RECEIVED POWER FROM DUKE ABOUT WHICH WAS THE FIRST STEP TO FINISH THE CONSTRUCTION OF THAT SO PUT THAT IN PLACE, WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO GET THOSE OPEN FOR THE PUBLIC PAID WE ARE SUPER EXCITED ABOUT THAT NOT RELATED TO THE NORTH AND I DON'T KNOW I I SAID THIS AT MY LAST PRESENTATION BUT WE ARE FORTUNATE TO WIN A $400,000 GRANT FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF NATURAL RESOURCES TO BEGIN THE FIRST LEG OF THE WHITE RIVER GREENWAY SOUTH OF 116TH STREET SO IT WILL START AT THE 10612 THAT CONNECTS TO THE NEW BRIDGE OVERBITE RIVER AND IT IS JUST LOCATED WEST OF THE BRIDGE AND WILL CONTINUE SOUTH ALONG THE RIVER AND IT MAKES IT ONTO THE HAZEL BELT PARKWAY PERIMETER TRAIL, WEST OF THE FARM THAT IS THERE PAID SO SUPER EXCITED AND DESIGNED FOR DEVELOPING THAT AN FINISHING DETAILS ON THE AGREEMENT WITH DNR.
THAT IS A PROJECT THAT WE ARE LOOKING FORWARD TO GETTING
STARTED AS WELL. >> THANK YOU.
JUST ONE QUESTION. WE LOVE SEEING THE PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT. TWO QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT PAID ANY ACCESSIBILITY EQUIPMENT THA IS THERE AND FOR THE SPECIAL NEEDS KIDS ON THAT SIDE AND ALS ANY TIMELINE ON WHERE WE ARE
WITH THAT PROJECT. >> ABSOLUTELY.
PICKED THE PLAYGROUND IS UNIVERSAL DESIGN PRINCIPLES SO IT IS DESIGNED TO ENSURE THAT THERE ARE OPPORTUNITIES FOR CHILDREN OF ALL ABILITIES SO THAT IS SOMETHING THAT IS VERY IMPORTANT TO US AND THE RAMPING SYSTEM UP PROVIDES OPPORTUNITIE AND THEIR GRADES TO GET PEOPLE UP TO THE SLIDES THAT WE ARE EXCITED ABOUT THOSE ELEMENTS. NOT ILLUSTRATED QUITE A SPELL BUT THERE'S SOME FEEDBAC THAT WE HAD FROM THE PARK BOARD AND THEY'RE LOOKING FOR OPPORTUNITIES FOR SHADE AND THERE WILL BE THREES WITHIN THE PLAYGROUND BUT AS WE KNOW A TRE THAT IS PLANTED ON A NEW PLAYGROUND TAKES A FEW YEARS BEFORE IT IS REALLY CASTING SHADE UNLESS YOU ARE IN ONE LITTLE SPOT PAID SO WE WILL LOO AT PROVIDING SOME SHADE OPPORTUNITIES AS WELL. WE ANTICIPATE STARTING CONSTRUCTION AND BREAKING GROUN BEFORE THE END OF THIS YEAR AND I WOULD ANTICIPATE PROBABLY REALISTICALLY ABOUT A YEAR AND
>> THANK YOU, MICHAEL. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
ONTO OLD BUSINESS. ON ITEMS LETTER EIGHT AND B
[12.c. Resolution CC-12-01-25-04; A Resolution of the Common Council of the City of Carmel, Indiana, Approving an Amendment to the Carmel Comprehensive Plan to Incorporate a New Subarea Plan for the Home Place Area; Sponsor: Councilor Minnaar. Returns from the Land Use and Special Studies Committee. ]
REMAIN IN COMMITTEE. C MATT, CC--12 DAZ 0 1-25-04, RESOLUTION TO THE COMMON COUNCI OF THE CITY OF CARMEL, INDIANA, PROVING AN AMENDMENT TO THE CARMEL COMPREHENSIVE PLAN TO INCORPORATE A NEW PLAN FOR THE HOMEPLACE AREA.THIS HAS BEEN TURNED FROM LAND USE.
>> YES. WE'VE HAD QUITE A BIT OF CONVERSATION. ADRIAN IS HERE WE HAVE ANY OTHE QUESTIONS THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO DIRECT HER THIS EVENING BUT TRULY PUBLIC INPUT ON THIS WAS WELL THOUGHT AND WELL VETTED THROUGHOUT THIS PROCESS AND WE'VE HAD NUMEROUS MEETINGS AND WE HAVE NO CONCERNS THAT I'VE BEEN RAISED TO OUR.
REFLECT THAT THIS PROJECT AND DID COME BACK WITH A POSITIVE RECOMMENDATION TO COUNCIL THIS EVENING SO IT IS BEFORE YOU.
>> THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN COME IF YOU COULD READ THE SYNOPSIS SO WE HAVE MORE OF AN IDEA OF WHAT THIS IS.
>> BEFORE I DO THAT, WANT TO SA A LOT OF THAT WORK WAS DONE AT THE COMMISSION LEVEL WHERE WE SPENT OVER A YEAR BEING VETTED
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WITH PUBLIC INPUT AS WELL. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT W GIVE CREDIT FOR DOING THAT PART. THE SYNOPSIS IS THIS PREP DOES THIS RESOLUTION AMENDS THE CARMEL COMPREHENSIVE PLAN TO INCORPORATE A NEWS SUPPER AREA PLAN FOR THE HOMEPLACE AREA AND MAKES ASSOCIATIVE REPARATIONS T THE MENU OF STREET TYPOLOGIES THOROUGHFARE PLAN MAP AND MOBILITY AND PEDESTRIAN PLAN MAP>> THE NEXT PLAN COMMISSION FOR ABOUT A YEAR.
ARE THERE FURTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS ON THIS?
>> HEARING NINE, MOVED TO APPROVE.
THAT CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY. THANKS TO ALL OF THE FOLKS THAT WORKED REALLY HARD ON THIS. MIKE, THESE DOCUMENTS ARE NOT EASY BUT ARE THERE COMPLICATED AND A LOT OF LANGUAGE, WORDS HAVE ONE DEFINITION IN ONE SPOT AND DIFFERENT LATER.
BUT REALLY WHAT REALLY HELPED WAS THE BACK-AND-FORTH ON THE PREVIOUS SUB AREA REALLY HELPED. THIS ONE MADE IT SMOOTHER.
GREAT JOB OKAY, SECOND READING. D-2815-26, ORDINANCE OF THE
[12.d. Second Reading of Ordinance D-2815-26; An Ordinance of the Common Council of the City of Carmel, Indiana, Vacating a Portion of the Public Way; Sponsor: Councilor Snyder. Returns from the Land Use and Special Studies Committee. Will be discussed during Finance, Utilities and Rules Committee Meeting on 5/13/26. ]
COMMON COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF CARMEL, INDIANA, VACATING A PORTION OF THE PUBLIC WAY. RETURNS FROM LAND USE AND SPECIAL STUDIES, AS WELLS AS RULES AND FINANCE.THIS IS FOR A PETITION FOR A- BETWEEN 1118 GREENWAY ROAD AND 32 ANGEL WAY ROAD, HELPED BY CARMEL MIDTOWN COMMUNITY COMMISSION. E IS SIMILAR LANGUAGE AND IF WE COULD COVER THEM BOTH, WE WOULD APPRECIATE IT.
>> THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. THAT OTHER ITEM, AUGUST SEPTEMBER CLOSING IS WHAT IT IS LOOKING LIKE.
WE ARE MEETING WITH FINANCIERS TODAY.
THANK YOU SO MUCH. WE HAVE PRESENT TODAY WITH US, TONY BERKLEY, THE DEVELOPER AND REPRESENTATIVES AND THE ARCHITECTS BID THIS PROJECT WEN TO LAND-USE AND FINANCE COMMITTEES SO QUICKLY WITH YOUR PERMISSION WE ARE GOING OVER WHAT WE DISCUSSED IN THOUSAND AND I CAN GO INTO DETAIL AS MUC AS YOU WOULD LIKE. SO FOR ANYONE WATCHING, THIS PROJECT DOES THERE'S A VERSION OF THIS PROCESS THAT WAS SHOWN TO COUNCIL LAST YEAR AND APPROVED A BOND ORDINANCE AND THERE WAS -- WE DISCUSSED HOW WE WOULD COME BACK TO PUT THE LAND AND SO NOW WE ARE BACK ASKING THE CITY TO PUT THE LAND AND IF THE COUNCIL VOTES YES, THE PROJECT WILL MOV FORWARD AS WELL PARTS OF THE PROJECT IS 123 MONEY DOLLAR PROJECT THAT HAS 100,000 SQUARE FEET OF OFFICE AND 128 SPACE COMEAU 128 OF UPPER UPSCALE TOOTH LUXURY HOTEL THAT I BELIEVE THAT TONY MENTIONED TAPESTRY WAS MENTIONED AT BOTH FINANCE AND LAND LAND-USE MEETINGS.
THERE IS DOES THIS IS OF RENDERING UP THE ENTRANCE TO TH HOTEL AND YOU CAN SEE IT OFFICE BUILDING THERE TO THE NORTH AND THERE IS ANOTHER VIEW OF THE HOTEL AND OFFICE BUILDING AND THE APARTMENTS THAT ARE ON VETERANS WAY AND THERE'S ANOTHE VIEW OF RANGELAND. THIS IS THE VIEW OFF OF VETERAN WAY ADMITTED NUMBER OF DISCUSSIONS AT BOTH THE COMMITTEE MEETINGS ABOUT HOW THIS VIEWING DECK IS OPEN TO TH PUBLIC WE DISCUSSED THAT THE TOPS OF THESE WERE GOING TO BE PUBLIC, WHICH IS CONTINUOUS THROUGHOUT AND WE DISCUSSED HOW THE PROJECT WOULD FIT BETWEEN RANGELAND AND VETERANS WAY AND THIS IS A DEPICTION OF THE MULTIFAMILY AND OFFICE AND THE HOTEL THAT SITS BETWEEN RANGE LIGHT AND VETERANS WAY THERE IS GOING TO BE PLENTY MORE CONVERSATIONS WITH OUR HEAD
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ENGINEER TO MAKE SURE EVERYTHIN IS DONE RIGHT AND HAVING ALL THIS CONVERSATIONS TODAY CAN YO CAN SEE THIS IS THE RANGE LINE, THE RANGELAND KIND OF PODIUM LEVEL AND THIS VIEW OVER HERE I THE VETERANS WAY LEVELS SO IT'S UNDERGROUND PARKING AT THE VETERANS WAY LEVEL BUT FROM THE RANGE LINE PODIUM COMMUTE CAN DRIVE AROUND AND MAXIMIZE THE PARKING TO THE EXTENT THAT WE CAN AND AS YOU GO IN HERE, THIS IS THE ACTUAL LOBBY OF THE HOTEL . AT BOTH LAND-USE AND FINANCE, I THINK AT EACH COMMITTEE MEETING WE SPENT ABOUT 20 MINUTES TALKING ABOUT THE PARKING CALCULATIONS AND WE GOT PRETTY DEEP INTO THAT. AND THEN I DISCUSSED WHAT ARE W ACTUALLY VOTING ON PICTURE PUTTING ON TAKING THIS CITY PARCEL IN BLUE AND SEPARATING I INTO THREE DIFFERENT PARCELS AN THEN VACATING THOSE PARCELS AND JOINING PRIVATE PARCELS AROUND THEM SO THE FIRST THAT YOU ARE VOTING ON THEY ARE THESE TWO PARCELS THE NORTH JOINING THIS PRIVATE PARCEL AND THE SELF JOINING THE GREEN AND THEN YOUR SECOND BOAT TODAY IS THIS SLIVER , WHICH IS RIGHT HERE. OBVIOUS PART OF GRANTING THIS, WE LOOK AT OUR EASEMENTS THAT W NEED AND ONE OF THE REASONS THI TOOK SO LONG IS BECAUSE WE NOW HAVE REPORTED AN OPTION ON THIS LAND AND AS SOON AS COUNCIL VOTES TO VACATE AND THIS NORTHERN PARCEL BREAK HERE BECOMES PART OF THIS LAND, IF THE PROJECT DOES MOVE FORWARD W HAVE THE ABILITY TO [INDISCERNIBLE] WE ARE HERE IN A POSITION TO PU THE DEVELOPER TO CONTROL THE LAMBERT OF THE PROJECT DOESN'T HAPPEN, THE CITY'S LAND IS SAFE BECAUSE WE ARE ABLE TO GET IT BACK. THAT IS ESSENTIALLY A SUMMARY U OF THE VARIOUS PARTS OF THE PROJECT AND I'M HAPPY TO RESPON TO ANYTHING THAT COUNCIL WOULD WANT AS FAR AS MORE DETAIL ABOU ANY OF THIS. I WANT TO BE RESPONSIVE TO COUNCIL HERE. WE DID ASK IN FINANCE THAT YOU COME TO COUNCIL FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE PUBLIC AND THEY CHANGE FROM 95% TO 100% TIF THE MEDICINE THE ABLED LIKE YOU TO TRANSPARENTLY DOCUMENT AND FULL EXPLAIN.>> THANK YOU FOR THAT PROMPT. WE DID DISCUSS THIS ITEM WITH HIM LAND-USE AND IN FINANCE COMMITTEE BUT ESSENTIALLY IT IS THIS. THE STATE OF INDIANA LAST YEAR PASSED A BILL CALLED SDA ONE, WHICH DROPPED THE FUTURE TAXES THAT CERTAIN PROPERTIES ARE GOING TO PAY THE STATE QUITE A LOT AND SPECIFICALLY FOR MULTIFAMILY, WHICH IS ABOUT A THIRD OF THIS PROJECT. THERE IS THE MULTIFAMILY.
AS COUNSELOR TAYLOR POINTED OUT OVER THE NEXT YEAR THE VALUE IS GOING TO DROP BY 36% PAID BY VALUE I SAY THE TAXES ARE GOING TO DROP BY 36% SO THINK ABOUT WHAT WE HAVE HERE IS A PROJECT.
WE HAVE A MULTIFAMILY COMPONENT AND OFFICE COMPONENT AND A HOTE COMPONENT AND THEY ALL SHARE A GARAGE IN THE GARAGE IS ALSO 80 OPEN TO THE PUBLIC FOR US RESIDENTS TO USE WHENEVER THEY WANT. THE STATE CHANGE THE LAWS ABOUT THE FUTURE TAXES THAT WAS GOING TO PAY FOR THIS GARAGE COMING OFF OF THE APARTMENTS ARE ESSENTIALLY DROPPING BY A THIRD-PERIOD NOTICE THAT DROPPING BY A THIRD, THE COST O THE PARKING SPACES. THEY ARE STILL ABOUT 40 GRAND EACH PRINCE OF THIS IS A PROJEC THAT IS PROVIDING AN AMENITY FO CITIZENS TO USE, A PUBLIC PARKING GARAGE, THE COST WHICH STAYS THE SAME BUT SUDDENLY OUR ABILITY TO PAY FOR IT HAS DROPPED SIGNIFICANTLY. SO THE PREVIOUS VERSION THAT WA APPROVED BY THE COUNCIL, THERE WAS A MAXIMUM BOND AMOUNT OF $99 . FIGURING OUT HOW TO GET THAT 900 MILLION. AND THEN THE STATE PASSED ITS LAW AND IN THAT, THE CITY WAS GOING TO KEEP 5% THAT THE FUTUR TAXES AND THE DEVELOPER WAS GOING TO UTILIZE 94% TO PAPER O THE PARKING GARAGE THAT WE ALL USE AND THAT WAS AFTER THIS PROJECT PASSES THEY CHANGE THE LOT AT DROPPED THE FUTURE TAXES COMING UP THE APARTMENTS BY ABOUT 36%, WHICH BREAKS THE DEAL . SO WE ARE COMING BACK TODAY
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ASKING FOR 100% OF THE TIF TO G TO THE DEVELOPER TO MAKE UP SLIGHTLY THE VALUE OF WHAT THE DEVELOPER HAS LOST HERE.THE SPECIFIC NUMBER TO YOUR QUESTION IS ABOUT HALF A MILLIO DOLLARS IF WE ARE USING THE SAM METRICS THE POINT IS THE DEVELOPER IS NOT GETTING MORE MONEY.
DEVELOPERS GOING TO GET UP TO 19 MILLION.
THE AMOUNT OF FUN IF DEVELOPER IS GETTING IS IT CHANGING.
BUT IS CHANGING IS THE ABILITY TO GET CLOSER TO WHAT THE DEVELOPER NEEDS TO MAKE THE PROJECT HAPPEN AND THAT IS ALL
THANKS TO SCA WHY. >> ALL RIGHT, HENRY.
SOLD THIS PROJECT, MY FEELINGS ARE PRETTY WELL KNOWN.
I STILL DON'T BELIEVE IT IS THE BEST USE FOR A LOCATION NEXT TO CITY HALL. THAT IS JUST ME.
THE OBJECTIVE QUESTIONS I HAVE ARE IS THE VIEWING PLATFORM, IS THERE AN ELEVATOR. IS THAT ADA ACCESSIBLE.
>> YES. BECAUSE YOU ASKED THIS QUESTION AT COMMITTEE, I SPECIFICALLY ADDRESSED IT BECAUSE IT WAS SO IMPORTANT. THE BEST WAY TO SEE THAT ESSENTIALLY, SOMEONE FROM THE PODIUM IS ABLE TO GET TO THE STAIR TOWER. HOLD ON HERE.
ESSENTIALLY WALK THROUGH ALL TH OPEN PUBLIC SPACES AND THESE AR OPEN SPACES AND THEY WALKED ALL THE SPOTS.
SO THIS PICTURE KIND OF SHOWS THAT ACTUALLY.
THIS ENTIRE SECOND FLOOR, ALL O THIS THAT YOU SEE -- SORRY, OKAY. THIS ENTIRE SECOND FLOOR, THIS ENTIRE AREA IS ALL OPEN. AGAIN, SOMEONE COULD JUST WALK UP THE STAIRS RIGHT HERE AND SOMEONE THAT DOES NEED ACCESSIBILITY OPTIONS, THEY ARE ABLE TO ENTER FROM THE FIRST FLOOR AND GO UP THE ELEVATOR ON THE SECOND FLOOR AND TAKE THIS SPACE TO THE PUBLIC SPACES SO I IS ALL ADA COMPLIANT.
>> INCLUDING THE TOP LEVEL? >> YES, THERE IS A ELEVATOR THA GOES TO THE TOP. AND THAT IS WHERE THE PARKING
FEES DOES. >> KNOW, THEY ARE SPECIFICALLY BUT THEY WERE WHEN WE BROUGHT I TO COUNCIL LAST YEAR.
THE TOPS OF THESE OPEN SPACES. WHAT IS NOT DEPICTED ON THEIR ARE ADDITIONAL AMENITIES AND THINGS TO ACTIVATE BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT TO OVERPROMISE BUT I SUSPECT IT WILL BE GAMES AND SHADE STRUCTURES ALL ON TOP OF THOSE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC SPACES.
>> THOSE ARE BEING BUILT REGARDLESS BECAUSE THAT IS WHAT THE ARCHITECT DID AND I STRUGGLED WITH PARKING FEE DOLLARS GOING INTO A BUILDING THAT IS -- THAT IS JUST A STATEMENT. I MADE IT CLEAR.
THE PARKING, 80% IS FOR THE PUBLIC.
I'M SURE IT DOUBLES FOR CARAMEL FAST BUT WE HAVE LOST THE LAND WE ARE VACATING AND WE SAW IT A THE JAPANESE FESTIVAL, HOUSES THE TREMENDOUS AMOUNT THE STAGING.
FOR FESTIVALS AT CITY HALL AND THAT CARAMEL FAST.
YOU WOULDN'T KNOW THAT. I AM JUST PRAYING THAT UP.
>> MY BIGGEST CONCERN WITH THIS PROJECT AND, AGAIN, IT IS NOT SPECIFIC TO THIS PROJECT, SO THIS ISN'T PERSONAL AGAINST THI PROJECT BUT WE HAVE GOT A SIZABLE NUMBER OF PROJECTS THAT WERE APPROVED MANY YEARS AGO AN WE ARE STILL WAITING ON BEING BUILT PICKED THIS FEELS LIKE TH INVESTOR MADE AGREEMENTS.
I CAN UNDERSTAND CHANGING SOME THINGS BUT NOW WE ARE GOING BAC IN AND CHANGING THE RULES AGAIN. THERE IS JUST NOTE MARY YOU KNO WHAT I THINK THAT 100% TIF IS RESPONSIBLE UP IT'S ANOTHER PUBLIC IS GETTING LESS. INSTEAD OF A COMMITTED RETAIL ACTIVATION PLAYS, THERE'S THE POTENTIAL IT IS A DEAD ZONE AGAIN. YOU SET UP THE LAST MEETING THA
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THERE'S OPPORTUNITY, THERE MIGH BE A RESTAURANT OR THERE MIGHT BE -- THOSE WERE YOUR WORDS.SO MY CONCERN IS FOR ALL OF THE OTHER DEVELOPMENTS, THE DEVELOPMENTS THAT HAVE STRUCTURED DEALS AND NOW ARE GOING TO COME BACK AND ASK FOR CHANGES BECAUSE THE MONEY DOESN'T WORK ANYMORE. SORRY, THAT'S A RISK AND I DON' THINK THAT IS THE TAXPAYERS ISSUE AT 5% OF INCOME OVER THE NEXT 20 YEARS I'VE SPOKEN MY PEACE.
IT IS A BEAUTIFUL BUILDING AND I'M SURE YOU'LL DO A WONDERFUL JOB WITH THAT. I JUST HOPE THAT THE PUBLIC
SPACES REMAIN. >> I WILL START OUT BY SAY I AM GOING TO VOTE FOR THIS TONIGHT. I AGREE WITH COMMENTS RECENTLY MADE THAT THERE IS A DESPERATE NEED FOR CLASS A OFFICE SPACE I OUR CITY, ESPECIALLY ONES THAT BRING IN HIGH-END EMPLOYERS, THAT BRING IN WELL-PAYING JOBS BUT I THINK THIS IS WELL-POSITIONED TO DO SO COME AND BRING IN THE COMPANY THAT THE CITY COULD BE VERY PROUD OF PAID.
WE'VE SEEN CITIES ACROSS ARISTIDE-STATING COUNTY THAT DON'T INVEST IN THE CLASS A OFFICE SPACE AND COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT AND THEY HAVE MUCH HIGHER PROPERTY TAXES ARE LESS AMENITIES AND IT IS A CRUCIAL PART OF OUR LOCAL ECONOMY.
ALONG WITH THAT HAVING AN UPSCALE HOTEL, AS WE BUILD OUT OUR HOTEL SPACE, CONTINUE TO BRING VISITORS TO OUR CITY AND TO KEEP OUR ECONOMY VIBRANT AND FOR THOSE REASONS I WILL VOTE FOR IT BUT I'M GOING TO READ OR WRITE SOMETHING I SAID LAST TIM AND I WAS GOING TO LET IT GO, BUT HENRY COMEY HAD TO SEND ANOTHER E-MAIL TODAY ABOUT THE TOPIC OF WOOD WE HAVE BEEN ALERTED TO THESE CHANGES HAD THERE NOT BEEN A VACATION A PROPERTY. AND I BELIEVE YOU THAT THE BOND WERE WRITTEN IN A WAY THAT THES CHANGES TO THE PROJECT STILL MEET THE CRITERIA OF WHAT IT SAYS BUT IF WE GO BACK TO HOW THIS ORIGINALLY PASSED, AT THE TIME IT CAME BACK FROM COMMITTE AND CAME TO COUNCIL AND MANY THOUGHT IT WAS GOING TO PASS HAVE ENDED UP BEING HELD. IT WAS HELD BECAUSE CITY COUNCILORS IN ORDER TO FEEL COMFORTABLE VOTING FOR THE PROJECT WANTED TO SPEND MORE TIME ASKING FOR ADDITIONAL WHAT WE THOUGHT WERE COMMITMENTS FRO THE DEVELOPER IN ORDER TO BASICALLY MAKE ME FEEL COMFORTABLE TO VOTE YES ON THE PROJECT. HAD NOT THOSE COMMITMENTS NOT REFLECTED IN THE BOND DOCUMENTS MEANING STOOD THERE AND SAID THIS WHAT HAPPENED AND IF IT WASN'T FOR THE VACATION, THERE WOULDN'T BE ANY ONUS ON YOUR PART HAVE TO COME BACK AND HAVE
US VOTE AGAIN ON THOSE CHANGES. >> NO, THAT'S NOT RIGHT,
COUNSELOR. >> DID WHAT DID YOU SAY THE LAS MEETING, YOU WOULD NOT HAVE TO COME BACK DESPITE THE PROJECT
CHANGE. >> IF THE PROJECT CHAIN IS ANYWAY FROM A REPRESENTATION THAT I PREVIOUSLY MADE TO COUNCIL AND DISCUSSING THE CHANGE ON A PROJECT NO MATTER WHAT. JUST BECAUSE YOU DON'T HAVE TO FORMALLY OPEN UP THE BOND ORDINANCE AGAIN.
THAT BEING SAID, I WOULD NEVER TAKE THIS PROJECT FORWARD WITHOUT COMING BACK TO COUNCIL WITHOUT DISCUSSING ANY SPECIFIC
CHANGES. >> I'M VERY HAPPY FOR YOU TO SA THAT SO THAT DOES CLEAR UP SOME OF THE CONFUSION ON MY PART PET SO IF I MISUNDERSTOOD, I APOLOGIZE BUT I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT GOING FORWARD IF WE HAVE A CERTAIN DETAILS THAT WE ARE NEGOTIATING OUTCOME OF THAT I UNDERSTAND PROJECTS TO CHANGE BUT WE JUST WANT TO BE A PARTNER SO WE UNDERSTAND THOSE CHANGES WHEN THEY COME BACK TO US.
WE SPEND A LOT OF TIME ON THESE THINGS SPIT THANK YOU FOR THAT CLARIFICATION. I WILL BE VOTING YES AND I UNDERSTAND THINGS CHANGE IN THE FUTURE TO COUNSELOR SNYDER'S POINT, WE SEE THINGS CHANGE AND CONTINUE THAT DIALOGUE WITH US.
>> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT.
A COUPLE OF THINGS. ONE OF THE THINGS WE TALKED ABOUT IN THE FINANCE COMMITTEE WHICH WAS COMPELLING FOR ME WAS THE SPECIFIC DESIGN OF THIS ACTUAL PROJECT WHERE IT HAS APARTMENTS, OFFICE BUILDINGS AN MY UNDERSTANDING WAS THIS IS ON OF THE VERY FIRST TIMES THAT A PRODUCT ELABORATE BEEN DEVELOPED . AM I CORRECT IN THAT?
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THIS TYPE OF A PROJECT I WOULD SAY THAT WE'VE DONE AN EXCUSE OTHER THAN CARMICHAEL, WHICH IS A ONE-OFF THING AND WE HAVE NOT HAD AN UPSCALE HOTEL AS PART OF THIS KIND OF DEVELOPER.>> OF THERE'S A COUPLE THINGS THAT I WOULD LIKE TO SAY.
ONE OF THE MITIGATING FACTORS, AM GOING TO SUPPORT THIS TONIGHT , AND IT WAS LISTENING TO WHAT WE DISCUSSED IN FINANCE COMMITTEE AND WHAT WE DISCUSSED IN THE LAND USE COMMITTEE.
IT WAS ALL INFORMATIONAL TO ME. IT IS AN UPGRADE BUT THEY SPOT AND CONFERENCE CENTER IN A POOL AND A RESTAURANT.
>> YES, 6,000 FEET IS REQUIRED. >> CLASS A OFFICE BUILDING WITH 100 SQUARE FEET. THE SOMETHING I KNOW THAT A LOT OF OUR HEAD PEOPLE -- EXCUSE ME, 100,000 SQUARE FEET OFFICE SPACE CLASS A COME OF THAT SOMETHING THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE LOOKING FOR, ESPECIALLY OUR CENTRAL CORPORAT THE PARKING, WHILE IT BROUGHT THE NUMBERS DOWN, I DO APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT YOU BROUGHT THE VALET TO THE SIDE O THE CITY HALL HERE AND WE ACCESSED IT IN THE PODIUM.
I'M ALSO VERY HAPPY THAT WE DO NOT ALLOW OF BALLET WITHIN THE PARKING GARAGE WHICH I THINK IS SOMETHING THAT WE ALL ARE IRRITATED WITH CHEMIST FOR SICK CONSIDERING THEY ARE PUBLIC PARKING GARAGES BITS I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR THAT COMMITMENT.
AND I THINK THAT IS PRETTY MUCH IT I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT I WILL BE SUPPORTING THOSE FOR THESE REASONS BE OF THANK YOU.
>> I HEARD THIS FROM SOMEONE ELSE.
THERE IS NO FIVE STARS HOTEL IN INDIANA SO WE ARE GOING TO HAVE
THE ONLY ONE. >> I TAKE FIVE STAR AS A KIND O DOES YOU JUST OF THIS GOING TO BE-
>> I REFERRED TO THE INDUSTRY STANDARD AND IN THE TERM SHE THAT HAVE TO -- WHICH IS INDUSTRY RECOGNIZABLE.
SO I USE COLLOQUIALLY I USE A FIVE STAR IT IS UPSCALE IS.
>> FIVE STAR BEING ---THAT IS NOT -- LET'S JUST NOT BE MISLEADING. AND FINALLY COMMENT YOU THROWN AROUND MILLION DOLLARS IN BONDS AND THAT IS NOT TAXPAYER DOLLARS . THAT IS A BACKED BOND HELD BY TAXPAYERS. I WANT TO MAKE SURE TO MAKE IT CLEAR THAT HE'S NOT GIVING YOU 19 MILLION AND THERE IS NO OBLIGATION FOR THE TAXPAYER TO PAY OFF THIS 19 MILLION IN DEBT.
>> AND I WILL GIVE YOU THE SLID IN THE COLOR OF THE CODING AND IS NOT A TAXPAYER RISK IS WHAT DOES.
>> YOU COULD HAVE LED WITH THAT. >> MR. GREEN.
>> I SHARE SOME OF THE CONCERNS THAT COUNCILMAN SNYDER BROUGHT UP BUT HAVING ATTENDED BOTH THE FINANCE MEETING AMANDA USE MEETING, I REALLY APPRECIATE YO CLARIFYING A LOT OF THINGS, LIK THE NEED FOR THE TIF EXPANSION AND ALSO THE SHARED AMENITIES, WHICH WE WERE DISCUSSING EARLIE ON HOW PEOPLE LIVING IN THE APARTMENTS WILL GET TO USE A LO OF THE AMENITIES THEY ARE THAT THROUGH THE HOTEL, YOU KNOW, WHICH IS ONE OF THE FIRST, I THINK, SHARED AGREEMENTS. I APPRECIATE THAT ALSO AND THEN SOMETHING THAT YOU BROUGHT OUTCOME OF THE LOCATION OF THE VALET. IT IS ON THE BACKEND AND THE HOTEL SO I REALLY APPRECIATE TH PROJECT AND THE TIME BEING PUT
INTO IT. >> THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT.
I THOUGHT THE FINANCE COMMITTEE MEETING WAS VERY HELPFUL TO WOR OUT SOME OF THESE DETAILS AND TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE THINGS BECAUSE I THINK EVERYONE UP HER PROBABLY HEARS FROM CONSTITUENT ON A REGULAR BASIS ABOUT TOO MUCH DEVELOPMENT OR SLOW DOWN, THOSE KIND OF THINGS. I AM GOING TO VOTE FOR THIS AND
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IT IS BECAUSE OF THE FACT THAT WE CAN'T BE THE NUMBER ONE COMMUNITY IN THE COUNTRY IF WE DO NOT DO THE THINGS THAT WORK ON THE BENEFIT OF OUR SET ASSUMES THAT I KNOW MANY OF US UP HERE LIKE TO PELT THE FACT THAT WE ARE THE BEST COMMUNITY IN THE COUNTRY IF NOT THE WORLD. I SERVED ON BEFORE I RAN FOR OFFICE FOR CITY COUNCIL AND I SERVED ON THE REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION FOR 13 YEARS PRIOR T THAT AND I SAW A LOT OF SAUSAGE GET MADE THERE WERE I CAN'T REMEMBER A PROJECT THAT DIDN'T HAVE A WRENCH THROWN INTO IT OR A CHANGE THAT NEEDED TO BE MADE AND CERTAINLY COMMUNICATION WIT THE COUNCIL IS IMPORTANT, BUT THIS IS NOT UNHEARD OF NO ONE ANTICIPATED THAT THE STATE OF INDIANA WOULD CHANGE THE FINANCIAL MODEL THAT WE HAVE BEEN FOLLOWING, BUT I WANT TO POINT OUT THAT THE RECENT ICANN WITH A CLEAR CONSCIENCE AND ACTUALLY EXUBERANCE BUT FOR THI IS BECAUSE OF WHAT THE COMMUNIT WILL RECEIVE.WE ARE OPEN FOR BUSINESS IN CARMEL WE HAVE NOW -- WE ARE COMPETITION THAT WE'VE EVER HAD FOR AMENITIES FOR OUR CITIZENS SO NOT ONLY ARE WE GETTING A PARKING THAT WE NEED, YOU KNOW, THIS UNBELIEVABLE TOWER THAT I GUARANTEE YOU WILL BECOME AN ICON, IT WILL BECOME PLACE FOR I TAKE MY VISITORS TO BECAUSE IT LOOKS OUT OVER THE JAPANESE GARDEN.
THAT IS SOMETHING THAT COMMUNITIES WOULD KILL FOR INSTEAD OF ANOTHER MALL OR, NO DISRESPECT, BUT JUST A PERK OR POCKET PARK PAID THIS IS % SOMETHING THAT IS TRULY SPECTACULAR TO GO ALONG WITH TH JAPANESE GARDEN PARK.
BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY IS THE 100,000 SQUARE FEET OF OFFICE SPACE WE HAVE RIGHT NOW AT ISSU OUT ON US 31 CORRIDOR THAT IS GOING TO BECOME MORE PAINFUL AS EVERY YEAR GOES BY AND PERHAPS THIS 100,000 SQUARE-FOOT OF OFFICE SPACE, I BELIEVE, WILL HELP YOUR NEIGHBORS TEN YEARS FROM NOW DO THINK THIS COUNCIL BECAUSE IT HELPED US KEEP THE TAXES LOW AND KEEPS OUR COMMERCIAL BASE STRONG AND PROTECT THOSE COMPANIES WHO WAN TO REMAIN IN CARMEL AND ALSO ATTRACT OPPORTUNITIES FOR COMPANIES WHO CAN ADD TO OUR FAMILY OF CORPORATE HEADQUARTERS . SOLD THE LAST THING I WILL SAY IS THIS IS OUR THIRD PROJECT WITH THE WORD PROSCENIUM I AND IT PAID WE TOOK A RISK ON PROSCENIUM I AND THEN WE SAW GOOD THINGS COME FROM PROSCENIU I, EVEN WITH UNBELIEVABLE ALMOS CATASTROPHIC THINGS HAPPEN INCLUDING A DOWNTURN IN THE ECONOMY NOT BEING ABLE TO BURY THOSE POWERLINES FOR MULTIPLE YEARS BUT I DON'T HOW YOU SLEPT AT NIGHT BECAUSE THERE WERE MILLIONS OF DOLLARS TIED UP IN THAT PROJECT THAT WERE, IT WAS CHALLENGE WE HAVE PROSCENIUM II AND NOW WE HAVE PROSCENIUM III AND I HAVE TO POINT TO THE VIBRANCY OF ALL OF THOSE PROJECTS IN RELATION TO A SET O CONDO BUILDINGS THAT ARE NOT UP AGAINST A FIRE STATION I'M SPENDING MORE TIME IN THAT AREA OBSERVING WHAT IS GOING ON AND THERE ARE FAMILIES WHO LIVE NEX TO THE FIREHOUSE WERE TAKING THEIR KIDS OVER THERE TO WATCH THE TRUCKS GO OR IT IS UNBELIEVABLE.
AND THEN GOING OVER TO THE SPAGHETTI FACTORY, WHICH SHE MONDAY, I FORGET IS THERE SOME TIMES, TO HAVE A MEAL.
SO IT IS NEVER GOING TO BE PERFECT.
THE PROCESS IS MAKING SAUSAGE BUT THIS PROJECT IS IMPORTANT T CARMEL I SUPPORT IT AND WE ARE OPEN FOR BUSINESS AND I WANT TO DO EVERYTHING I CAN TO MAKE SUR THAT THIS PROJECT IS AN ASSET T OUR COMMUNITY AND IS AN ENHANCEMENT FOR OUR RESIDENCES AND MAKES THE LIFE THAT WE PLEA IN THIS COMMUNITY BETTER AND I BELIEVE IT WILL. SO I WILL BE VOTING FOR THIS.
>> THANK YOU, COUNSELOR. >> THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION. I AM VERY VOCAL ABOUT THE FACT THAT OUR INDIANA JONES STYLE ASSEMBLY, THOSE DEDUCTIONS AND
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DECREASES WILL NOT RESULT IN TH LOWERING OF MULTIFAMILY RENTS FOR MARKET RATE APARTMENTS THROUGHOUT THE STATE.MARKET RATE APARTMENTS ARE JUST THAT THAT WILL BE APROPOS TO TH MARKET RATES THAT ARE CHARGED THE COMMUNITY.
AND I WANT TO MENTION A COUPLE THINGS ABOUT THIS PROJECT FOR THE PUBLIC, THE DEVELOPER BACKE BOND THAT THE DEVELOPER WILL BE AT RISK FOR REPAYING NOWHERE NEAR COVERS THE COST OF THE 344 IS THAT RIGHT, SPACE PARKING STRUCTURES AND I BELIEVE 40,000 IS PROBABLY LATE FOR A SUBTERRANEAN GARAGE BUT YOU CAN DO THE MATH. I WANTED TO THANK THE DEVELOPER FOR INCLUDING THE UNITS ON THE TOP FLOOR AND MAKING THEM EVEN MORE ATTRACTIVE AND ENSURING THAT YOU DID THE MARKET RESEARC AND THAT THE WAY THAT YOU STRUCTURED THOSE UNITS, AT LEAS TWO BEDROOM TO ENSURE THAT OUR SENIORS ARE THOSE 55 PLUS CAN TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THEM AND I APPRECIATE THE COMMITMENT DURIN THE FINANCE COMMITTEE MEETING THAT THE 100,000 SQUARE-FOOT OFFICE SPACE ARE NOT COMPANIES THAT ARE BEING CANNIBALIZED FRO OUR OTHER OFFICE UNIT -- USERS AND HOPEFULLY ATTRACTS NE CORPORATE RESIDENCES TO THE CIT OF CARMEL AND ALSO GOING BACK T OUR TIME EARLY ON IN THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE CENTER FOR PERFORMING ARTS, MR. BURKE LAW AT THE TIME, AND NOT ONLY PROSCENIUM I BUT TOOK A MAJOR RISK IN OUR CENTER CORE AND DEVELOP THE FIRST SPACE AT THE CENTER FOR PERFORMING ARTS WHY AM I FORGETTING THE NAME OF IT? AND THAT GROUNDBREAKING JUST POPPED UP IN MY MEMORY A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO OF THE RISKY TOOK ON CARMEL EARLY ON AND SO FOR ALL THESE REASONS, APARTMENTS ARE A NECESSARY EVIL TO MAKE THIS WORK IN THE COMMITMENT RELATED TO COMMERCIAL OFFICE AN THE SENIOR LIVING, I WILL BE
SUPPORTING THIS PROJECT. >> QUICK QUESTION.
IS THAT AGE RESTRICTED OR AGE TARGETED APARTMENTS.
>> IT WILL BE AGE RESTRICTED. RESTRICTED AS A FEDERAL STANDAR BOAT WE ARE WRITING INTO THE PROJECT THAT IT IS THE SAME THING. IT IS GOING TO FOLLOW THOSE THE ARE NOT NECESSARILY THE SAME THING AT RESTRICTED MEANS
THERE'S ACTUALLY A RULE. >> WHEN I THINK ABOUT IT, AGE RESTRICTED IS FOLLOWING THE FEDERAL STANDARD FOR FEDERAL PURPOSES THAT EACH TARGET SB RIGHT IN THE FEDERAL STANDARD AND THEY HAVE TO FOLLOW IT BUT THEY ARE NOT FOLLOWING UP FOR FEDERAL PURPOSES THE MAIN POINT IS WE ARE GOING TO FOLLOW THE SAME RULE, WHICH IS AT LEAST ON OF THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE AND THERE MUST BE 55 OR OLDER AND THAT IS THE FEDERAL RULES THAT FOLLOW THAT. SOUL BE PART OF THE PROJECT
WE ARE GOING TO RECORDED ON THE PROJECT AS WELL APPEARS.
>> ARE JUST ONE PERSON. RULE THAT AT LEAST ONE OF THE HOMEOWNERS HAS TO BE 55 OR OLDE AND THAT IS THE STANDARD KIND O A RULE AND THAT FOLLOWS THROUGH NOT JUST FEDERAL BUT ALSO INDIANA HAS A STATUTE THAT FOLLOWS IT AS WELL.
>> UP THAT WILL BE THE STANDARD THAT WE FOLLOW THAT A LEAST ONE PERSON HAS TO BE 55 OR OLDER, WHICH IS THE RULE, I WONDER HOW MANY APARTMENTS DON'T HAVE SOMEONE OVER 55 LIVING IN THEIR
ENTIRE BUILDING. >> I THINK IF YOU TALKED OUR DEVELOPERS THEY WILL SAY THEY ARE PRETTY MUCH CLOSE TO THAT ALREADY. ALL RIGHT, NOW THE MOST LACK COUNCIL HAS CAST THEIR VOTE. THOUGHTS AFFECT ACTUAL BOAT AND SINCE THESE ARE GOING TO BE, SHOULD REMAIN THE SAME BOATS WITH TWO, IF THERE'S NO OBJECTION, WE WILL READ IT IN AND VOTE ON IT WITHOUT FURTHER DISCUSSION.
>> WE WILL NEED TO ACT ON THESE SEPARATELY.
DOES SOMEBODY WANT TO DO WHAT? ON D.
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>> I WILL MOVE TO VACATE THE PUBLIC WAY UNDER ITEM D.
[12.e. Second Reading of Ordinance D-2816-26; An Ordinance of the Common Council of the City of Carmel, Indiana, Vacating a Portion of the Public Way; Sponsor: Councilor Snyder. Returns from the Land Use and Special Studies Committee. Will be discussed during Finance, Utilities and Rules Committee Meeting on 5/13/26. ]
ITEM B, SECOND READING OF THE ORDINANCE B.SPONSOR MYSELF, HAS RETURNED FROM BOTH LAND-USE AND FINANCE THIS IS A PETITION TO VACATE TH PUBLIC RIGHT-OF-WAY BY SUB 112 SOUTH ROAD. FILED BY COMMISSIONER
DEVELOPMENT IS THERE A MOTION? >> MOVE TO VACATE.
>> SECOND. >> SECOND BY COUNCILOR MINNAAR.
AND THAT IS APPROVED 8-1. CONGRATULATIONS PICK CONGRATULATIONS. I'M SURE THIS WAS -- WILL BE AS BEAUTIFUL AS YOU SAY IT WILL.
[13.a. First Reading of Ordinance Z-706-26; An Ordinance of the Common Council of the City of Carmel, Indiana, Amending the Short-Term Rental Use-Specific Standards and Definitions in the United Development Ordinance; Sponsor: Councilor Ayers. ]
FIRST MEETING UP ORDINANCE C706- T6, ORDINANCE OF THE COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF CARMEL, INDIANA, AMENDING THE SHORT-TER RENTAL DUE SPECIFIC STANDARDS AND DEFORMATIONS IN THE UNITED
DEVELOPMENT ORDINANCES. >> THANK YOU.
I'M GOING TO FRAME THIS REALLY QUICK.
THIS ORDINANCE AMENDS SHORT-TER RENTAL QUEUE STANDARDS WITHIN OUR UBL. THERE IS REALLY NO OPINION PIEC HERE UNFORTUNATELY, MUCH LIKE THE STATE, THEY HAVE THE ABILIT TO GENERATE INCOME IF WE HAVE FOR MANY YEARS, WHICH CAUSES CHANGE IN THIS PROJECT MAY HAVE STRIPPED US OF ALL OF OUR RIGHT REGARDING THIS, PERIOD. SO THERE IS NO OPINION THAT MATTERS APPEAR AS I'M SURE OUR OPINIONS ARE CONTRARY TO THE ACTIONS WE TAKE WE HAVE TO TAKE THE ACTIONS SO A MUSCLE AND HAS A DESIRE TO GET INTO DEEP CONVERSATION ABOUT THIS, I WOUL MOVE TO SUSPEND THE RULES -- I'M NOT GOING TO DO IT.
>> WE NEED THE PUBLIC HEARING FIRST BID.
>> YOU COULD GIVE A TWO-MINUTE SPIEL AND JUST BE A LITTLE BIT
>> GOOD EVENING. AS PRESIDENT SNYDER INDICATED, THERE'S GOING TO BE A RECURRING THEME THIS YEAR, UNFORTUNATELY OUR EXISTING ORDINANCES, THIS ONE IS A REQUIRED AMENDMENT -- AMENDMENT ON SHORT-TERM RENTAL REGULATIONS AND FILED AN ORDINANCE, TO BE VERY QUICK, THIS ORDINANCE PRETTY MUCH ALIGNS OUR SHORT-TERM REGULAR REGULATIONS AND HAS BEEN RECENTLY AMENDED AND BASICALLY PRECLUDES ENFORCEMENT AS IT EXISTS TODAY AND THERE FOR THIS AMENDMENT.
SO TO KEEP A LONG STORY SHORT, NUMBER ONE, IT ESTABLISHES A PERMITTING PROPERTY -- PROCESS FOR PROPERTY.
AND IT ALLOWS NON-OCCUPIED PROPERTY OWNERS TO APPLY FOR SPECIAL EXCEPTION, SO THEY WILL GO THROUGH THE PROCESS AS THAT IS THE DAY FOR OWNER OCCUPIED. AT NUMBER THREE, IT DEMANDS OCCUPANCY, WHICH ALIGNS WITH TH STATE AND OUR DEFINITION IS A LITTLE DIFFERENT AND IT REQUIRE AN ACTUAL NUMBER OF DAYS FOR OCCUPIED AND STATE IS MUCH CLOSER TO TAX CODE AND BASICALL PRIMARY RESIDENCE WITH AN INTEN TO RETURN SOLICIT YOU GO CALL FOR YEARLY CREWS, AS LONG AS -- AND THERE FOR YOU QUALIFY AND FINALLY THIS ONE IS A NEWS THIN AND IT EXPANDS SHORT-TERM REGULATIONS TO SEVERAL OF THE DISTRICTS WHICH ARE B 1 AND B2 AND LETTER -- B MAX SEVEN AND OVER THE LAST DECADE OR SO A LOT OF THOSE DISTRICTS HAVE SEEN A LOT OF CHANGES, ESPECIALLY IN THE COUR IN A CONFINED RESIDENTIAL BUILDINGS IN ALL DISTRICTS AND THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT WILL BE FITTING TO APPLY THE SAME SHORT-TERM RENTAL REGULATIONS REGULATIONS AS WELL AS TRADITIONAL BONDS.
>> THANK YOU. YOU MIGHT'VE DONE A BETTER JOB
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JUST SAY THE STATE IS DOING THI AGAIN AND WE ARE DOING WHAT WE HAVE TO. WITH THAT, WE WILL OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 8 PM. STING NO ONE APPROACHING, WE WILL CLOSELY PUBLIC HEARING AT 8 :01.>> COUNCIL PRESIDENT SNYDER, JUST ONE THING UP ON TO CLARIFY JUST SO PEOPLE UNDERSTAND OF TH GENERAL PUBLIC COME IF YOUR AGENT WAY BANDS SHORT-TERM RENTING, IT BANS AT.
THIS STATE LAW OR THIS CITY ORDINANCE HOW IT IS WRITTEN DOE NOT OVERRIDE YOUR PRIVATE CONTRACT BETWEEN YOU AND YOUR HOMEOWNER ASSOCIATION SO I JUST WANTED TO MAKE THAT CLEAR.
WITH THAT I WOULD LIKE TO SUSPEND THE RULES AND ACT ON
[13.b. First Reading of Ordinance D-2819-26; An Ordinance of the Common Council of the City of Carmel, Indiana, authorizing and approving an additional appropriation of funds from the General Fund (Fund #101) to the Marketing and Community Relations 2026 budget (Fund #1203); Sponsors: Councilors: Joshi, Minnaar, Snyder and Worrell. ]
THE FIRST READING OF D-2819-T6, ORDINANCE OF THE COMMON COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF CARMEL, INDIANA, AUTHORIZING AND APPROVING AN ADDITIONAL APPROPRIATION OF FUNDS FROM THE GENERAL FUND TO THE MARKETING AND COMMUNITY RELATIONS 2026 BUDGET 1203 SPONSORS, JOSHI AND MINNAAR AND MYSELF AND WORRELL.>> MOVED AND SECONDED. OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 8:03.
SEEING NO ONE OTHER THAN OUR CF APPROACH THE PODIUM, PEOPLE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 8:0 AND SOME SECONDS.
SO THIS HAS BEEN INTRODUCED AND WE HAD THE PUBLIC HEARING PICK THIS IS TO MOVE $20,000 RELATED TO CITY INITIATIVE RELATED TO VOLATILE -- VOLUNTEER CARMEL.
VOLUNTEER T-SHIRTS TO LET PEOPL KNOW THAT THEY ARE PART OF THE VOLUNTEER PROGRAM AND BACKGROUN CHECKS FOR OUR VOLUNTEERS SPEED THAT I CAPTURE EVERYTHING WITH THE HIGHLIGHTS? TRYING TO SAVE YOU HERE IS THER ANYTHING ELSE WOULD LIKE TO OFFER PRODUCTS YOU DO NOT NEED TO.
>> SUSPEND THE RULES AND ACT ON THIS THIS EVENING.
>> SECOND. THIS WILL BE ACTIVE ON THIS EVENING. MOVE FOR APPROVAL.
AND THIS CARRIES BIT THANK YOU. ITEM C.
[13.c. First Reading of Ordinance D-2822-26; An Ordinance of the Common Council of the City of Carmel, Indiana, Authorizing the Issuance of General Obligation Refunding Bonds for the Purpose of Providing Funds to Refund Certain Outstanding General Obligation Bonds of the City and to Pay Incidental Expenses in Connection Therewith and on Account of the Issuance and Sale of the Bonds and Appropriating the Proceeds Derived from the Sale of Such Bonds; Sponsors: Councilors Taylor and Snyder. ]
FIRST READING APARTMENTS D-282 2 -26, AN ORDINANCE FOR THE COMMENTS COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF CARMEL, AUTHORIZING THE ISSUANC OF GENERAL OBLIGATION REFUNDING BONDS FOR THE PURPOSE OF PROVIDING FUNDS TO REFUND CERTAIN OUTSTANDING GENERAL OBLIGATION BONDS OF THE CITY AN DEBATE INCIDENTAL EXPENSES IN CONNECTION THERE WITH AN ON ACCOUNT OF THE ISSUANCE AND SAL OF THE BONDS AND APPROPRIATING THE PROCEEDS DERIVED FROM THESALE OF SUCH BONDS. >> THIS RESOLUTION AUTHORIZES THE ISSUANCE OF THE CITY'S GENERAL OBLIGATION REFUNDING BONDS SERIES 2026 IN THE MAXIMU PRINCIPAL AMOUNT OF $20 FOR THE PURPOSES OF REFINANCING MULTIPL SERIES OF OUTSTANDING GENERAL OBLIGATION BONDS ISSUED IN 2016 IN ORDER TO ACHIEVE DEBT SERVIC SAVINGS AND PAYING COSTS OF ISSUANCE OF BONDS.
>> THANK YOU, SIR. DO YOU WANT TO HAVE THE PUBLIC
HEARING FIRST CRACK. >> PEOPLE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
>> OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR THEM BOND REFINANCE AT 8:05.
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SEEING NO ONE APPROACHING THE PODIUM, WE WILL CLOSE THE QUICK HEARING FOR THE BOND REFINANCE AT 8:06:00 P.M.BEFORE YOU GET INTO IT, THIS WILL BE GOING TO FINANCE COMMITTEE, FINANCE AND RULES COMMITTEE.
SO A HIGH-LEVEL EXCLAMATION WIL BE WE'RE A GOOD.
>> THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. >> ALL THE HANDOUT THAT IS JUST BEEN PASSED AROUND AND WE WILL SHOW THE SCREEN HERE THERE ARE FIVE AGENDA ITEMS TONIGHT RELATIVE TO THE BOND REFUNDING AND YOU HAVE THE ORDINANCE AND THE PUBLIC HEARING SECTION IN ITEMS 13C AND NEW BUSINESS 14G, H, I, J, TYING THIS TO THE SAME ONE. ESSENTIALLY TONIGHT WE WILL DO THIS AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE AND GIVE YOU A BRIEF OVERVIEW THAT WE ARE WORKING ON HERE. ROD IS AVAILABLE TO GIVE THE HISTORY OF THESE BONDS AND HEID AND LANDON ARE HERE TWO GO TO MORE DETAILS ON FINANCES AND BRAD WILL TALK MORE ABOUT WHICH IS WHICH. THE MAJOR TAKE AWAY HERE IS WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO REFINANC A PORTION OF THE BOND AT THAT AND TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE LOWER MARKET RATES THAT IS WHAT WE AR TRYING TO PROCEED WITHOUT THIS TIME.
YOU WON'T KNOW THE ACTUAL AMOUN OF SAVINGS UNTIL PAGODA MARKET BUT THAT RANGE IS PROBABLY 9- $11 MILLION RIGHT NOW.
AS BRAD WILL DESCRIBE, IF YOU LIKE IN A MOMENT, MOST OF THESE BONDS ARE FROM 2016 AND ARE NOW CALLABLE TWO YEARS LATER AND WE ARE ALSO FINANCINGS STORMWATER BONDS 2020.
WHILE EVERY YEAR WILL SEE SAVINGS, RESTRUCTURING THESE BONDS, WE PRIORITIZE TO HIT MAINLY IN 2027, 2028 FOR PROBABLY TALKING ABOUT 4 MILLIO IN SAVINGS EACH YEAR.
AGAIN SUBJECT TO MARKET CHANGES AND ALSO FOR STORMWATER BONDS, STORMWATER BLIND IN THE STATE AND HAVE A MILLION ANNUALLY AND BRING UP THAT CAPACITY AS WELL. THAT IS THE HIGH LEVEL OF THESE FIVE DOCUMENTS THAT I MENTIONED AND I'M HAPPY TO GET IN THE WEEDS MORE IF YOU WANT OR SAVE THAT FOR THE FINANCE AND A
COUPLE WEEKS. >> I PERSONALLY WOULD PREFER SAVING THAT BUT I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT TO GET ON THE RECORD LEFT UP GOT TO MY THIRD MESSAGE THAT WE NEED TO TAKE A BATHROOM BREAK FOR THE PUBLIC, WHICH I D KNOW THAT I SEE IT IS AFTER 8:00 , TWO HOURS W APPRECIATE YOU SITTING HERE BUT WE HAVE HAD OU PUBLIC HEARING AND THERE WILL B NO ACTION TONIGHT ON THIS ONE.
DO YOU WANT TO GET THROUGH THE REST OF THE PUBLIC HEARINGS AND DO IT RIGHT BEFORE NEW BUSINESS I'M TRYING TO BE COGNIZANT OF THE PUBLIC HERE AS WELL. WILLING TO EXPLAIN THESE IN MOR DETAIL. RAPIDLY ABOUT 12 MAIN DOLLARS I
THE ESTIMATE. >> I WOULD ASSUME CHANGING MARKET CONDITIONS, 12 IS THE HIGH-END BUT WE'RE STILL TALKIN IN THAT 9-10 ON THE LOW END RIGHT NOW.
>> SO ON ITEM, LETTER -- C, WE ARE BRINGING THAT TO
COMMITTEE I'M SORRY, DISCUSSION. >> IF IT IS GOING TO COMMITTEE COME OF ME FROM ABOVE AS WE TAL ABOUT THE BENEFITS OF REFUNDING THE MONEY THAT WE WILL SAVE OVERTIME TO WHAT ARE WE GIVING UP. WE THINK IT IS IMPORTANT TO GET ON THE RECORD ABOUT BONDS. OBVIOUSLY WE ALL KNOW THERE IS FINANCIAL HER LESSER TALK ABOUT EVERY CHANCE WE COME APPEAR, PUTS US IN A POSITION IT WILL G DOWN OVER THE NEXT COUPLE OF YEARS AND I WOULD LOVE FOR US T LOOK AT OLD BONDS AND EXERCISE OPTIONS WITHIN THEM TO UNDERSTAND BUT WE MAY BE
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TREATING FOR CURRENT VALUE SAVINGS AS WE MOVE FORWARD.THE OTHER SIDE OF IT IS THE GLOBAL ECONOMY AND WHERE WE ARE.
IT MAKE SENSE TO DO THIS RIGHT NOW KNOWING THAT 20272028 ARE GOING TO BE FINANCIALLY HARD YEARS FOR US.
>> BECAUSE THIS IS A LARGE AMOUNT OF MONEY AND A LOT OF PIECES TO IT, COULD YOU DISTRIBUTE X AND Y, THAT WE COULD DISTRIBUTE SO THAT THE PUBLIC KNOWS IT HERE IS WHY WE ARE DOING IN HERE ARE THE CONCERNS AND WHEN IT COMES BACK HOPEFULLY WE ARE IN A BETTER EDUCATED POSITION TO MOVE
[13.d. First Reading of Ordinance D-2823-26; An Ordinance of the Common Council of the City of Carmel, Indiana, Authorizing and Approving an Additional Appropriation of Funds from the City Asset Repairs and Maintenance Fund (Fund #927); Sponsors: Councilors Taylor and Snyder. Public Hearing only. Ordinance to be addressed in New Business.]
FORWARD. THAT MOVES OVER TO D.ALRIGHT, WE'LL BE GONE TO D. FIRST READING APARTMENTS D 2823- 26 AND ORDINANCE OF THE COMMON COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF CARMEL INDIANA AUTHORIZING APPROVING AN ADDITIONAL APPROPRIATE SHALL FUNDS FROM TH CITY ASSET REPAIRS AND MAINTENANCE FUND. SPONSORS COUNSELORS TAYLOR AND MYSELF. THIS MOVES A LITTLE OVER MILLIO DOLLARS THAT WE RECEIVED AS AN INSURANCE PAYMENT FOR THE 106 TH STREET BRIDGE BUT THAT IS FINE.
THAT WORKS BUT WHAT WE ARE DOIN IS CREATING A NEW BOND, WHICH O THE SURFACE I VERY MUCH AGREE WITH.
BEWARE OF THESE TYPES OF PAYMEN AND WHEN WE HAVE THESE TYPES OF PAYMENTS, WE HAVE SOME COFFERS THAT IS IN THE RAINY DAY FUND PAYOUT -- WE PAID FOR THAT UPFRONT OUT OF THE STREET DEPARTMENT BUDGET AN THEN THEY WERE STRAPPED SO THE HOPE HERE IS THAT WE CAN CREATE A FUND FOR INSURANCE OR OTHER APPROPRIATION APPROPRIATIONS THAT SHOULD BE USED TO PAY THE FINANCIAL BURDEN THAT IS CAUSED BY INSUREDS ACTIVATED EVENTS FO THIS IS GOING TO GO TO COMMITTE TO REVIEW THE LANGUAGE IF I SAI ANYTHING, YOU WOULD LIKE TO SUPPLEMENT IT, PLEASE.
>> I WILL CLARIFY THE BUNDLES THAT YOU SEE HERE AT THE BOTTOM BOX. UNFORTUNATELY IT APPEARS OUT OF ORDER WE HAVE THE ORDINANCE TO CREATE THE NEW FUND AND THEN WE HAVE A RESOLUTION IN MOVING THE DOLLARS OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND.
AS YOU MENTION, MR. PRESIDENT, THIS IS THE 1.74 MILLION THAT W RECEIVED FOR THAT OVERPASS DAMAGE.
TAKING THAT CASH OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND THAT'S BEEN CREATED , AND THEN WE HAVE A COUPLE -- A PUBLIC HEARING FOR THOSE DOLLARS.
>> THANK YOU. I SAY WHY THIS IS CRITICAL BECAUSE IT'S NOT LIKE WE GET THAT MONEY BACK IN THE SAME BUDGET YEAR. IF WE HAD X MEAN DOLLARS FOR REPAVING AND WE TAKE A FOUR BRIDGE, THAN THEN THE REPAVING DOESN'T HAPPEN. IT DIDN'T GO BACK IN THE BUDGET CYCLE. SO IT IS UNFAIR TO THE PUBLIC I THE STREET DEPARTMENT NOT HAVE THOSE SURFACES -- SERVICES. IT IS A HUGE DOLLAR AMOUNT AND THEN THE ACTUAL REPAIRS THIS WILL BE GOING TO FINANCE I'M SORRY, WE HAVE TO HAVE A HEARING .
>> GO AHEAD. >> IT IS A NON-REVERTING FUN.
>> IT IS NOT SET UP TO USE THE FUNDS BUT IT DOES HAVE TO GO TO COUNCIL BUT IT DOES HAVE USES THAT ARE LIMITED TO CITY REPAIR
AND ASSETS APPEARANCE. >> THAT IS ONE THING I WANT TO TALK ABOUT BECAUSE WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THIS MOMENT I LOOKED UP RECEIPTS IF NOT SPENT AND IT WOULD HAVE TO COME TO COUNCIL. SO THE 1.7 FOR THE TRANSFER OVER
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. NUMBER DOLLARS GO IN THERE I MUST COUNCIL TRANSFERS THAT OVE ARE WE HAD TO FRONT A HALF-MILLION DOLLAR REPAIR I KNOW THAT IS COMING BACK IN WE WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 8:24.C BUT KNOWING WISHING TO SPEAK, WE WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING . ANY OTHER COMMENTS?
>> I ALSO WANTED TO NOTE TALKIN WITH THE ADMINISTRATION ABOUT THE RAINY DAY FUNDS THAT ARE USED FOR VERY DIFFERENT PURPOSES , WHAT A VERY IMPORTANT ABOUT THE CREATION OF THIS FUND AND HOW WE APPROACH THIS IS ONC WE HAVE DEVELOPED THAT REPLACEMENT PLAN, THEY FLY HALF IDENTIFIED EXPENDITURES THAT WE NEED TO PLAN FOR THIS WILL GIVE US A TOOL AS WE WORK TOWARDS COVERING THOSE COST AS A PLACE TO HOUSE THESE FUNDS THAT ARE RESTRICTED TO EXECUTE WHAT IS BEING REPAIRED IN THAT PLAN.
>> MY TWO THINGS HERE ARE IT SHOULD BE VERY SPECIFIC ON HOW AND WHAT CAN BE USED FROM THAT, SPECIFICALLY FOR TAKING INSURANCE PAYMENTS AND PUTTING IT IN HERE.
THE SECOND THING WHICH CAME UP EARLIER TODAY, PARTS BEING UNDE OUR INSURANCE AND MAKE SURE WE HAVE A MECHANISM TO ADEQUATELY CONTROL THOSE ASSETS WHEN THOSE INCOMES DO COME THROUGH, WHICH THINK ADDS TO THE REQUIRED LANGUAGE ON CONTROLS HERE.
WHAT WAS PRESENTED IS VERY OPEN BUT THE IDEA OF ENSURING THAT W ARE USING THOSE FOR A SPECIFIC PURPOSE ARE DIFFERENT.
WE WILL LOOK AT THAT AS WE FURTHER DRAFT THE BILL.
>> THANK YOU PICKED THIS BOOK G TO FINANCE COMMITTEE.
I KNOW WHICH ONE WE ARE ON. 'S PETITION TO VACATE AN
[13.e. Petition to Vacate an Easement; Between 10450 Laurel Ridge and 1372 Ridgegate Lane; Victoria Edwards]
EASEMENT BETWEEN 10450 LAUREL RIDGE AND 1372 RIDGE GATE.>> THIS IS THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE PETITION PIECE 14H ORDINANCE THAT GOES WITH THAT. THERE IS AN EASEMENT.
IT IS HAMILTON COUNTY AND THAT IS NOT WHAT YOU ARE ACTING ON RIGHT NOW. THERE GOING TO BE RELOOK -- RELOCATING THE PIPE. VERY STRAIGHTFORWARD.
IN THE TIME IT TAKES US TO DO SOMETHING WITH THIS, WE WILL PULL UP ON THE COMPUTER WITH TH PICTURE.
HEARING THAT, THERE WILL HAVE T BE A PUBLIC HEARING TO VACATE THE EASEMENT BETWEEN 10450 LAUREL RIDGE AND 1372 RIDGE GATE . PUBLIC HEARING AT 8:28.
CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 8: 28 AND A FEW MORE SECONDS.
[14.a. First Reading of Ordinance D-2821-26; An Ordinance of the Common Council of the City of Carmel, Indiana, Vacating the Easement Located at 1372 Ridgegate Lane & 10450 Laurel Ridge Lane; Sponsor: Councilor Snyder.]
MOVING ON TO THE ACCOMPANYING ORDINANCE THE FIRST READING OF ORDINANCE D. OR ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF CONSULT, BAKING THE EASEMENT BETWEEN 10450 LAUREL RIDGE HAD 1372 RIDGE GATE. THIS IS INVOLVED LAUREL BILLSUBDIVISION. >> BUREAU ONLY VACATING THE
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RIGHT SIDE THAT CARMEL HAS, WHICH IS IS DRAINAGE AND YOU CA SEE THAT THEY ARE MOVING THE REST OF THE EASEMENT TO THE WES OF THEIR ACCOMMODATING THAT. THANK YOU AND THE HOMEOWNERS ARAWARE OF THIS. >> IT'S BEEN INTRODUCED.
>> SECOND-PERIOD. >> AND WE WILL BE ACTING ON IT
[14.b. First Reading of Ordinance D-2813-26; An Ordinance of the Common Council of the City of Carmel, Indiana, Amending Chapter 8, Article 4, Sections 8-38 and 8-39 of the Carmel City Code; Sponsor: Councilor Joshi.]
B COMES FIRST READING OF ORDINANCE -- AND ORPHANS OF THE COUNCIL OF CITY OF CARMEN SOUL SECTIONS EIGHT THROUGH 38 AND 8-39 OF TH CARMEL CITY CODE.SPONSOR COUNCILOR JOSHI. >> AMENDS CARMEL CITY CODE 8-39 TO ADD NEW SPEED BUMPS ON WEST ROAD BETWEEN 124 STREET AND 131
ST STREET. >> THIS HAS BEEN INTRODUCED, AS YOU HEARD FROM MANY PEOPLE THIS EVENING, THIS SECTION OF TOWN, WEST ROAD, HAS 430 SOME YEARS HAD ISSUES WITH SPEED.
ONE OF THE JOMA TALKED ABOUT RACING HIS VEHICLES AND THAT IS WHERE I TOOK MY CAR TO SEE HOW FAST IT COULD GO WHEN IT WAS IN HIGH SCHOOL. SO THERE IS NO DOUBT THAT THAT IS THEY DRAG STRIP AND I WASN'T WAS ALONE IN DOING THAT.
A LOT OF TIMES I DROVE TO AS FAST AS THEY COULD TO GET TO ON OF FLASH LAST SPEAKER'S HOUSE. I CAN UNDERSTAND THE SENSITIVITY . I WILL SAVE MY PERSONAL OPINION I DON'T NECESSARILY AGREE WITH THIS BUT GIVEN THERE ARE NO OPTIONS ON THE FACT THAT YOU FOLLOWED A VERY SPECIFIC PROCESS , WHICH I LOVE ABOUT THE PRESIDENTS OF CARMEL.
I ASSUME IT WAS WRITTEN THE WRITERS THOUGHT NOBODY WOULD EVER DO ANYTHING AND YOU GUYS DID IT.
SO FOR THAT I AM PLEASED SHOWS THE PROCEEDS OF THE PEOPLE OF CARMEL AND DR. JOSHI HAS BEEN WORKING ON THIS FOR VERY LONG
TIME. >> UP AND STEP UP AS YOU MENTIONED AND MET ALL SEVEN STEPS ON THE 25-POINT SYSTEM.
>> THE BIGGEST CONCERN I WAS ASKED ABOUT HIS FINANCIAL CONSIDERATION. CAN YOU READ INTO THE RECORD
WHAT THAT IS PAID. >> IT IS THE SIGNATORIES THAT SIGNED THE PETITION SO 75% REQUIRED AND THERE WERE 32 SIGNATURES AND THEY HAVE THE FINANCIAL OBLIGATION IF THE SPEED BUMPS ARE REMOVED WITHIN FIVE YEARS.
>> YES, IT IS THE SIGNATORIES. >> THAT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING.
IT IS THE SIGNATORIES AND THEY ARE RESPONSIBLE.
AS YOU CAN SEE, THESE ARE DEDICATED CARMEL PRESIDENT SEVE REV AT THE -- RESIDENTS WHO HAVE BEEN LITERATELY LITERALLY BORN AND RAISED HERE.
AND WE WENT THROUGH EVERY PIECE OF IT FROM A SPEED STUDY TO FOLLOWING THE PROTOCOLS ALL THE WAY THROUGH, MAKING SURE THAT THE PROCESS WAS COMPLETELY FOLLOWED AND HAD MEETINGS WITH ENGINEERING AND HAD MEETINGS WITH THE COMMUNITY AND SAT DOWN TOGETHER AND THIS WAS A SOLUTIO PROPOSED AND IT MADE SENSE BASE ON THE DATA SO THIS IS A DATA DRIVEN FOLLOWING ALL THE RULES AND PROTOCOLS THAT ARE PLACED BEFORE US THAT I HOPE THAT MY FELLOW COUNSELORS WILL AGREE THAT THIS IS PROBABLY ONE OF TH PLACES IN CARMEL WHERE SPEED BUMPS BELONG.
>> THANK YOU, MR. PÉREZ OF. DR. JOSHI, SORRY, IT ALWAYS FEELS WEIRD CALLING YOU THAT. COUNCILMAN JOSHI THINGS CHANGE.
PEOPLE MOVEMENT SUDDENLY YOU AR SADDLED WITH THE RESPONSIBILITY YOU DIDN'T KNOW YOU HAD, WHICH ACTUALLY HAPPENED TO ME AND MY OWN NEIGHBORHOOD APPEARS UNGRATEFUL FOR THAT AND KNOWING
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THAT IF YOU GUYS DECIDE TO MOVE THAT YOU ARE STILL ON THE HOOK FOR IT I'M JUST REALLY GRATEFUL THAT YOU CLARIFIED THAT.>> SO. >> NOT VERY OFTEN, I THINK I'VE HAD TWO IN MY DISTRICT THAT WE HAD APPROVED BUT I HAD ANOTHER NEIGHBOR TRY TO GET SPEED HOMES AND THEY COULDN'T MEET THE THRESHOLD BECAUSE IT IS A RIGOROUS PROCESS ON PURPOSE BECAUSE, AS WE SAY, SOMETIMES PEOPLE THINK THEY WANT THEM AND THEN ONCE THEY ARE PUT IN, THEY GET A LITTLE BUYER'S REMORSE SO WE WANT YOU TO REALLY THINK ABOUT IT AND GO THROUGH ALL THESE STEPS. BUT IT IS SEEING THE BIGGER PICTURE HERE THAT I WILL ASK YO A HYPOTHETICAL QUESTION.
SO IF MONEY WAS NOT A PROBLEM. I'M NOT SAYING IT'S UNLIMITED BUT WE HAVE MONEY TO SPEND AND THERE WAS ANOTHER INFRASTRUCTUR IMPROVEMENT OR FIXES THAT COULD BE DONE TO THE AREA BECAUSE AS YOU SEE THERE IS NO SIDEWALK AN IT IS A NARROW ROAD AND IT IS GETTING A LOT OF TRAFFIC, WHAT WOULD YOU SUGGEST IF YOU HAD TOOLS AT YOUR DISPOSAL TO IMPROVE THE ROAD BEYOND WHAT WE
ARE DOING TONIGHT. >> SO ADDITIONAL PEDESTRIAN FACILITY AND OVERSPEED ON THE PATH.
I WOULD SAY IT IS ON OUR LIST O TARGETS WE ARE IN PROGRESS RIGH NOW TO BORROW A TERM FROM EARLIER --
THOSE KIND OF ITEM. >> I THINK WE DID TALK ABOUT THAT ONE OF OUR MEETINGS WITH THE COMMUNITY AND WITH THE LIKELIHOOD THAT WE LOOKED AT TH ACTUAL NUMBERS ON THE LIKELIHOO THAT THIS PROJECT WOULD EVER TAKE PLACE WITHIN SEVEN BEST TE YEARS SO NOW IT KIND OF THE PRODUCTION OUT AND IF THE CITY DECIDE THAT WE SUDDENLY COME INTO A DIFFERENT STATE LEGISLATURE THAT WILL GIVE US SOME MORE VALUE FOR OUR MONEY PERHAPS SOME PEOPLE HAVE MORE T SPEND AND FOR NOW WE DO NOT BE ON THAT WILL PROHIBIT SOME OF THE THINGS THAT YOU ARE SUGGESTING. JUST THE CONTEXT OF THAT IS HAR TO TACKLE. ADJUTANT IS YOUR NAME BUT DID I SAY THAT CORRECTLY? I BELIEVE THEY MENTIONED THEY LIVE MA CONSERVATION IN A CONSERVATION DISTRICT SO THEY ARE NOT ALLOWED THINK YOU. THERE'S PROBABLY GOING TO BE FUTURE IMPROVEMENTS DOWN THE ROAD.
BUT WILL HAPPEN THE CURBS OF THOSE TYPE OF THINGS.
DO THEY HAVE TO BE TAKEN OUT OR CAN YOU KEEP THOSE IN.
>> YOU CAN KEEP THOSE IN. I COULD'VE ASSESSED HOW THINGS HAVE CHANGED SEVERAL TIMES AND ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF AND YOU GO INTO THE STUDY BUT PHYSICALL THEY ARE STILL THERE AND YOU CA PUT CURBS ON THEM. I JUST WANTED TO SPEAK TO THE NEIGHBORS UP THAT AREA WHO SPOK TONIGHT TO BURY IMPRESSED ON TH PROCESS THAT YOU FOLLOW THEM AN E-MAIL THAT I RECEIVED WERE EXTREMELY WELL-THOUGHT-OUT AND CONVINCING AND REASONABLE.
AND I FULLY SUPPORT YOU BUT I THINK IT IS A SHAME THAT AS WE HEARD PARENTS WORRY ABOUT THEIR BICYCLISTS AND WARRIOR ABOUT BASKETBALL ROLLING INTO THE STREET, I AM SENSING THAT THERE IS A LACK OF CONCERN OR COMPASSION.
THESE CARS GOING THROUGH YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD IT IS ME, ME, ME A YOUR EXPENSE AND I SENSE YOUR FRUSTRATION.
YOU CAN'T CHANGE THAT BUT I WANTED TWO AT LEAST ACKNOWLEDGE
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IT THAT I AM GOING TO WORK ON, YOU KNOW, IF THERE IS SOMETHING I CAN DO YOUR HAVING TO MAKE AN ADJUSTMENT TO YOUR LIVES.THESE THINGS ARE NOT FUN. I AVOID THEM.
SO NOW YOU HAVE A HARDSHIP IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD BECAUSE OF SOMEONE ELSE AND I THINK THAT I THE SHAME AND I THINK WE SHOULD ACKNOWLEDGE IT AND I DOUBT THINGS ARE GOING TO GET BETTER.
I WENT OUT AND SET OUT THERE ON AFTERNOON AND JUST WATCHED IT.
IT IS VERY INTERESTING TO WATCH THAT TRAFFIC.
SO I HAVE EMPATHY FOR YOU THANK YOU TO DR. JOSHI FOR WHAT YOU'V DONE TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN. I SUSPECT YOU WON'T TAKE THEM OUT AND I CAUTION YOU HAVE THINGS GET BETTER, IT IS BECAUS THEY ARE THEY. DON'T GET FOOLED AGAIN INTO TAKING THEM OUT THAT THE PROBLE IS GONE.
CONGRATULATIONS YOU ARE A PERFECT EXAMPLE.
BUT AS THE NAME OF YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD BUT I COULD NEVER FIGURE THAT OUT. OKAY.
THAT IS WHY I COULDN'T FIGURE I OUT YOU GUYS ARE AWESOME.
AND YOU KNOW YOUR NEIGHBORS AND TAKE CARE OF EACH OTHER.
I JUST WANT TO DRAW ATTENTION T THAT.
I THINK THAT IS AWESOME. I'M JUST SORRY WE HAVE TO MAKE
YOUR DAILY DRIVING LESS NICE. >> ONE THING THAT COULD PROBABL HELP EXABYTE -- EXPEDITE THE TRAIL, THESE NEIGHBORS ARE OBVIOUSLY VERY ORGANIZED AND FUN THINK I HAD TRIED TO WORK ON WITH MY NEIGHBORS NORTH OF GREY ROAD WA TO BE TO DEDICATE A TRAIL EASEMENT TO THE CITY OF CARMEL.
IS THAT SOMETHING YOU MIGHT WAN TO ORGANIZE AND WORK WITH THE DIRECTOR. THAT CAN HELP EXABYTE VERSUS HAVING TO GO THROUGH THE ACQUISITION PROCESS IF YOU'RE INTERESTED IN MULTIUSE PATH UP AND DOWN.
YOU COULD GET WITH YOUR NEIGHBORS AND ALL DECIDE TO CONTRIBUTE AT EASEMENT OR WORK TO PROVIDE AN EASEMENT TO THE CITY FOR FUTURE PATHS. I JUST WANTED TO MENTION THAT A PART OF THE PROCESS THAT MIGHT BE HELP TO EXPEDITE THE CONNECTIVITY. IN THANK YOU DUDE DR. JOSHI FOR
WORKING ON THIS. >> I ALSO AGREE.
THE SHAME THIS HAS BEEN 30 YEAR OF FAILURE.
I JUST WANT TO APOLOGIZE FOR THAT.
BABY STEPS, 30 YEARS LATER ID THINK THE ROUNDABOUT OF THE CAS AND SECTION, IT DOES PROBABLY MAKE LONG-TERM SENSE AND I BELIEVE IT IS THAT AND I'VE HEARD FROM SEVERAL PEOPLE ON ON SIDE OF THE ROAD THAT AREN'T IN LOVE THAT IT PROBABLY NEEDS TO GO INTO OUR TRANSPORTATION PLAN JUST SO THAT WE ARE BEING REMINDED OF IT SO FUN THAT COME UP FOR REVIEW, IF ENGINEERING THINGS THAT THAT IS PRUDENT FOR PUBLIC SAFETY, I THINK IT SHOUL
BE INCLUDED. >> IT IS PROBABLY ALREADY THERE.
>> IT WOULDN'T HAVE THE PEDESTRIAN FACILITIES AND IT.
>> IT MIGHT. ALL TAKE A LOOK AT IT.
>> TIMELINE. >> THAT IS A GOOD QUESTION.
I WILL HAVE TO GET WHAT OUR STREET DEPARTMENT AND WE WILL CONTRACT THROUGH THEIR. IS NOT USUALLY THE HIGHEST PROFILE WORK. SO AS THE WEATHER TURNS, IT IS ALSO JUST LOW QUANTITY RATHER THAN EXPENSIVE WORK.
>> HEADS UP TO THE HOMEOWNERS, IT MAY BE VERY LITTLE NOTICE AN IT MADE THE REPAVING ROAD IN TH NORTHWEST AREA AND WERE JUST GOING TO JUMP OVER AND PUT THOS IN REALLY QUICK AND I MAY NOT B
MUCH NOTICE. >> THAT WOULD BE THE WAY FOR US
TO GET THE CHEAPEST COST. >> ANY FURTHER COMMENTS?
>> AND MY MOTION TO SUSPEND THE RULES ON THIS THIS EVENING?
>> WE HAVE A MOTION. >> SECOND.
AND WE WILL BE ACTING ON THIS THIS EVENING.
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>> MOTION TO APPROVE. THANK YOU, ALL COME UP OR STICKING THIS MEETING. I HOPE YOU'VE GOT THE RESULTS
WERE LOOKING FOR IT. >> IT WOULD ALSO LIKE TO THANK OUR POLICE APARTMENT. I KNOW THEY SPENT A LOT OF WORK OUT THERE HERE TONIGHT TRYING T HELP US BID SO TO SIT THROUGH THIS MEETING, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR EVERYTHING YOU DO.
>> FOR THOSE OF YOU HERE FOR THIS PAST BOTH THE JUST PASSED, NOBODY WILL CONSIDER IT RUDE IF YOU WANT TO LEAVE.
[14.c. First Reading of Ordinance D-2820-26; An Ordinance of the Common Council of the City of Carmel, Indiana, Amending Chapter 3, Article 2, Section 3-58 and Chapter 8, Article 5, Section 8-45 of the Carmel City Code; Sponsor(s): Councilor(s) Minnaar, Taylor, and Worrell. ]
>> C, THE FIRST READING OF ORDINANCE D 2820-26, AN ORDINANCE OF THE COMMON COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF CARMEL, INDIANA, AMENDING CHAPTER THREE MET, ARTICLE TWO, SECTION 3-58 AND CHAPTER EIGHT MET, ARTICLE 5, SECTION 8-45 OF THE CARMEL CITY CODE. SPONSOR MINNAAR, TAYLOR AND
WORRELL. >> THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT.
THIS ORDINANCE AMENDING THE COLLECTION OF CIVIL PENALTIES UNDER THE JURISDICTION OF THE CITY'S VIOLATIONS BUREAU.
>> POLICE CHIEF. >> THIS ORDINANCE IN FRONT OF YOU PAVES THE WAY FOR A FEW THINGS TO THE FIRST OF WHICH IS THE CLERK TO DESIGNATE VENDORS FOR WORKING VIOLATIONS AND ALSO EXPANDS THE ENFORCEMENT CAPABILITIES TO THE PARKING ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS AS WELL AS CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS AND ALLOWS US TO MAIL VIOLATIONS, WHICH IS ONE OF THE FUNCTIONS O THIS NEW SOFTWARE THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT AND ALSO AMENDS THE PRICES OF THE FEE INCREASES ON GENERAL PARKING VIOLATIONS.
>> THANK YOU. THERE HAVE BEEN SOME GENERAL QUESTIONS RAISED AND THERE WAS DOLLAR AMOUNT SENT OUT IN AN E-MAIL THAT RAISE SOME EYEBROWS SO THIS IS GOING TO GO TO COMMITTEE TO BE FURTHER DISCUSSED.
AND BUT THE EXPECTATIONS ARE, THIS CONCERN ARE WE GOING TO BE OVERZEALOUS IN ORDER TO PAY FOR SOFTWARE.
WE DON'T BELIEVE THAT BE THE CASE BUT WE DO WANT TO SPEAK ABOUT IT PUBLICLY. THIS WILL GO TO RULE SEVEN FINANCE COMMITTEE. THANK YOU, CHIEF.
[14.d. First Reading of Ordinance D-2824-26; An Ordinance of the Common Council of the City of Carmel, Indiana, amending Article 4, Section 2-128 of the Carmel City Code; Sponsor(s): Councilor(s): Taylor and Snyder.]
THE FIRST READING OF ORDINANCE -- D 2824-26, AND ORDINANCE OF THE COMMON COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF CARMEL, INDIANA, ARTICLE FORMAT SECTION 2-128 OF THE CARMEL CIT CODE PERIODS SPONSORS COUNCILOR TAYLOR AND MYSELF.AMENDS ARTICLE FORMAT, SECTION 2 -128 OF THE CARMEL CITY CODE TO ESTABLISH THE NONREPORTING CITY ASSET REPAIRS AND MAINTENANCE
ALL OF THIS GOES TOGETHER HERE AND WE'VE GOT THE CREATION OF A NEW FUND AND TRANSFER FROM THE GENERAL FUND TO THIS NEW FUND AND APPROPRIATION WITHIN THAT NEW FUND.
SINCE CM D ARE ALL LINKED, CAN THEY JUST GO TO COMMITTEE ARE DEVELOPED TO BE INTRODUCED RESOLUTIONS?
[14.e. Resolution CC-05-18-26-05; A Resolution of the Common Council of the City of Carmel, Indiana, approving a transfer of funds between the General Fund (#101) and the City Assets Repairs and Maintenance Fund (#927); Sponsor(s): Councilor(s): Taylor and Snyder. ]
I CAN'T HEAR YOU. SO THAT GOES TO FINANCE AND RULES COMMITTEE. RESOLUTION CC-05-18-T6-05, RESOLUTION OF THE COMMON COUNCI OF THE CITY OF CARMEL, INDIANA, PROVING A TRANSFER FUNDS BETWEE THE GENERAL FUND 101 AND CITY[14.f. First Reading of Ordinance D-2823-26; An Ordinance of the Common Council of the City of Carmel, Indiana, Authorizing and Approving an Additional Appropriation of Funds from the City Asset Repairs and Maintenance Fund (Fund #927); Sponsors: Councilors Taylor and Snyder. ]
ASSET REPAIRS AND MAINTENANCE FUND NUMBER 927.THIS WILL GO TO THE FINANCE FINANCING RULES COMMITTEE.
THE FIRST READING OF D-28-23-26 AND ORDINANCE OF THE COMMON
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COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF CARMEL, INDIANA, AUTHORIZING APPROVING AN ADDITIONAL APPROPRIATION FUNDS FROM THE CITY ASSET REPAIRS AND MAINTENANCE FUND, FUNDED NUMBER 927.THE AFOREMENTIONED 1,000,074 -- 1,000,700 --
[14.g. Resolution CC-05-18-26-01; A Resolution of the Common Council of the City of Carmel, Indiana, Approving Certain Carmel Redevelopment Authority Lease Rental Refunding Bonds to Refinance Certain Outstanding Bonds and Related Matters; Sponsor(s): Councilor(s) Taylor and Snyder. ]
RESOLUTION CC-05-18-26-01. APPROVING CERTAIN AUTHORITY AND REFUNDING BONDS TO REFINANCE CERTAIN TRUST ANY BONDS AND RELATED MATTERS. COUNCILOR TAYLOR AND MYSELF.[14.h. Resolution CC-05-18-26-02; A Resolution of the Common Council of the City of Carmel, Indiana, Approving Certain Carmel Redevelopment Authority Lease Rental Refunding Bonds to Refinance Certain Outstanding Bonds and Related Matters; Sponsors: Councilors Taylor and Snyder. ]
>> THIS WILL ALSO GO TO FINANCE A OF RULES COMMITTEE.
RESOLUTION CC DOES 05-18-26-02, RESOLUTION OF THE COMMON COUNCI OF THE CITY OF CARMEL, INDIANA, APPROVING CERTAIN CARMEL REDEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY LEASE RENTAL REFUNDING BONDS TO REFINANCE CERTAIN OILS ANY BOND AND RELATED MATTERS BUT THIS IS
[14.i. Resolution CC-05-18-26-03; A Resolution of the Common Council of the City of Carmel, Indiana, Approving Certain Carmel Redevelopment Authority Lease Rental Refunding Bonds to Refinance Ceratin Outstanding Bonds and Related Matters; Sponsors: Councilors Taylor and Snyder. ]
GOING TO RULES COMMITTEE. CC-05-18-46-03, RESOLUTION OF THE COMMON CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF CARMEL, INDIANA[14.j. Resolution CC-05-18-26-04; A Resolution of the Common Council of the City of Carmel, Indiana, Approving the Issuance of Refunding Bonds of the City of Carmel Storm Water District and Related Matters; Sponsors: Councilors Taylor and Snyder. ]
APPROVING CERTAIN CARMEL DEVELOPER AUTHORITY LEASE RENTA REFUNDING BONDS TO REFINANCE CERTAIN ELSE ANY BONDS OR RELATED MATTERS BID THIS IS GOING TO COMMITTEE.THIS IS -- COUNCILOR TAYLOR AND MYSELF.
THIS IS GOING TO FINANCE AND RULES COMMITTEE.
I WANT TO THANK BAIRD FOR DRIVING ALL THE WAY UP HERE FRO ST. LOUIS TO HELP EXPLAIN THIS TO US.
WE ARE ON AGENDA ADD-ON ITEMS AND THERE ARE NONE.
OTHER BUSINESS BUT DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY OTHER BUSINESS?
[17. ANNOUNCEMENTS ]
HEARING NONE. ANNOUNCEMENTS.SO SORRY, TWO MEMORIAL DAY. MEMORIAL DAY EVENT IS FRIDAY, MAY 22, 9-10:00 A.M. AT THE CARMEL CLAY VETERANS MEMORIAL ACROSS FROM THE PALLADIUM AND I WILL INCLUDE FOR THOSE OF US THAT ARE ABLE TO MAKE IT AND TH MAYOR, BRIGADIER GENERAL STEWART . THE AIR FORCE WILL BE SPEAKING FROM THE FIRE STATION, FROM CF D .
AND FROM AMERICAN LEGION POST 155 AND THE VFW THE LAST
ANNOUNCEMENT -- >> NO, HE'S NOT.
THE LAST ANNOUNCEMENT AS IS AN EVENT BEING PUT ON AT --
YOU CAN LET MR. BILL BROOKS KNOW .
HE ONLY SERVED US FOR 12 YEARS ON CRC.
THAT'S WHAT I HAVE. THAT'S AWESOME.
TONY GREENE IS A VETERAN AND TH ONLY PERSON WE CAN FIND THAT WA ABLE TO SERVE TEN YEARS COME OVER DECADE COME IN THREE DIFFERENT BRANCHES OF MILITARY. THAT IS INCREDIBLE.
AND SEE HIS RETIREMENT CEREMONY IS TO ONE OF THE COOLEST THINGS I HAVE EVER ATTENDED. MR. GREEN MOBILE BE SPEAKING AS WELL ON JUNE 26 AT THE AMERICAN LEGION POST 155.
AND IT IS AN EVENT BEING PUT ON PIPE BY ONE OF OUR VOLUNTEERS.
AND IT IS CALLED BEYOND THE HEADLINES FROM 2-4.
COUNCILS 11? THAT THAT WILL MAKE IT SHORT AN SWEET. SAY THAT PAST TEN TIMES.
THE MAYOR'S ADVISORY COMMISSION MAY 28, AT 9:00 A.M. HERE AT CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS AND WE WILL BE GOING OVER SOME OF THE RESULTS THAT HAVE BEEN DONE ON OUR SKIN.
SO ANYBODY WHO ENJOYED THE EDUCATIONAL AND THE TALK THAT WAS GIVEN IN MARCH, PLEASE COME TO THAT ONE AS WELL.
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>> THANK YOU. THERE ANY FURTHER ANNOUNCEMENTS.
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