[00:00:08] >> GOOD EVENING AND WELCOME TO THE AUGUST FOURTH CARMEL PLANNING COMMISSION COMMITTEE MEETING OF THE HOLE. [1. Docket No. PZ-2026-00112 ADLS Amend: Hunters Glen Wall Change.] THERE ARE TWO ITEMS TONIGHT. THE FIRST ONE IS DOCKET NUMBER 2026-00112, A D S. EDMOND HUNTERS GLEN WALL CHANGE. THE APPLICANT SEEKS SITE PLAN AND DESIGN APPROVAL TO REPLACE THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD FRONT PERIMETER WALL WITH A FENCE. THE SITE IS LOCATED AT INTERSECTION OF EAST CARMEL DRIVE AND HUNTERS DRIVE AND IS ZONED FOR RESIDENTIAL. FILED BY LARRY SCHULTZ ON BEHALF OF THE HUNTERS GLEN CONDO ASSOCIATION. MR. SCHULTZ? >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WE'LL BE SHORT AND BRIEF. WE HAVE BEEN LOOKING INTO ALTERNATIVES TO GET AWAY FROM THE FINAL FENCE. SO THAT'S HELPED. I TALKED TO THE HISTORICAL, AND THEY SAID THAT THERE'S A POSSIBILITY THAT THEY MIGHT BE ABLE TO CLASSIFY US AS HISTORICAL, AND THEY MIGHT BE ABLE TO HELP US. I HAVE PAPERWORK THAT I HAVE TO FILL OUT SO IT'S ALL GOING TO TAKE TIME. SO I AM ASSUMING THAT BY NEXT MONTH I SHOULD BE ABLE TO MAKE A MORE INVOLVED PRESENTATION TO YOU FOLKS AS TO WHERE WE ARE AND WHAT'S GOING ON. SO I DON'T THINK I HAVE ANYTHING ELSE. >> THAT'S QUITE ALL RIGHT THANK YOU VERY MUCH PIERRE CARTMAN HAVE ANYTHING TO SAY? >> JUST A MONTH FROM NOW IS SEPTEMBER FIRST COMMITTEE MEETING IF YOU WANT TO CONTINUE IT UNTIL THEN. >> DO I NEED A MOTION? WE CONTINUE DOCKET PC202600112 TO THE NEXT COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE MEETING. >> MOVED AND SECOND AND FORWARD TO THE SEPTEMBER NINTH COMMITTEE MEETING. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. OPPOSED. OKAY WE WILL SEE YOU ON THE FIRST. [2. Docket No. PZ-2026-00155 ADLS Amend: Ascension St. Vincent Heart Center. ] >> NEXT IS AGENDA NUMBER P00026-00155ADLSM AND ASCENSION ST. VINCENT HEART CENTER. APPLICANT SEEKS DESIGN APPROVAL TO REMODEL THE EXTERIOR OF THE BUILDING. SITE IS LOCATED AT 10580 NORTH GREEN STREET ZONED MC READING QUARTER IT IS NOT LOCATED WITHIN THE OVERLAY DISTRICT. FILED BY ERIN MAHER OF BSA DESIGN ON BEHALF OF THE OWNER. AS WE ARE WAITING I. WILL MAKE NOTE. IS THAT THE QUICKEST DOCKET ITEM WE'VE EVER HAD POTENTIALLY. HUNTERS GLEN. >> THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME THIS EVENING. I'M ERIN MAHER FROM BSA DESIGN. I AM HERE WITH KEITH SMITH ALSO WITH BSA. WE ARE HERE ON BEHALF OF THE ASCENSION ST. VINCENT HEART CENTER AND WANT TO WALK YOU THROUGH OUR PROJECT TONIGHT. SO THE PROJECT IS LOCATED AT IN BETWEEN ILLINOIS STREET AND U.S. MERIDIAN 31106 SO SOUTH CENTRAL TO THE CARMEL DISTRICT. IT'S PRETTY ICONIC IF YOU GUYS HAVE EVER DRIVEN DOWN 31 WHICH YOU OBVIOUSLY HAVE. BUT IT IS COMPRISED OF TWO BUILDINGS, ONE BEING THE HEART CENTER AND MEDICAL OFFICE BUILDING. THE FACILITY IS LOOKING TO UPGRADE AND UPDATE NOT ONLY THEIR EXTERIOR AND INTERIOR IN ITS ORIGINAL CONDITION FROM WHEN IT WAS BUILT IN 2002 SO APPROACHING 25 YEARS AND ALSO ENHANCE THE WAY FINDING [00:05:03] THROUGHOUT THE EXTERIOR AND ALSO THE INTERIOR. COUPLED WITH SOME OF HER EXTERIOR UPGRADES WE ARE LOOKING TO ENHANCE THEIR EXISTING COURTYARD WHICH WAS PRETTY SANDWICHED BETWEEN THOSE TWO BUILDINGS CONNECTED BY AN EXTERIOR CANOPY AND IN ADDITION TO THE EXTERIOR UPDATES WE ARE HOPING TO ADD AN INTEGRATED ART METAL FACADE SO WE WILL GO THROUGH ALL OF THAT. THIS WILL BE A DESIGN FOR THE COURTYARD. HERE YOU CAN SEE THE CONNECTING CANOPY. THIS WOULD BE THE MEDICAL OFFICE BUILDING AND THE HEART CENTER MAIN ENTRY IS RIGHT THROUGH HERE. CREATING A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT NODES, SPACE FOR REFLECTION, THERE WILL BE A CUSTOM ART SCULPTURE AND THEN THIS WILL BE FUNDED THROUGH DONATIONS. A LITTLE SPACE PLAQUES FOR THOSE WHO ARE DONATING. IN ADDITION WE HAVE OUR LANDSCAPING PLAN WHICH I DID NOT PROVIDE ANY EXISTING IMAGE, BUT IT IS MUCH MORE LUSCIOUS THAN WHAT IS THERE CURRENTLY. RIGHT NOW IT IS UNEVEN CONCRETE. WE'RE PROPOSING CONCRETE PAVERS ALSO FOR SOME DONATION PROSPECTS AND AGAIN SOME CUSTOM ARTWORK, BENCHES AND JUST REALLY ENHANCING THAT COURTYARD DESIGN AND THEN YOU CAN SEE THE DINING AND CAFETERIA SPACE ON THE INTERIOR OF THE BUILDING SITS JUST SOUTH OF THAT COURTYARD SO REALLY TRYING TO HELP ON NICE DAYS BRING PEOPLE OUTSIDE BOTH STAFF AND VISITORS. LOOKING AT THE EXTERIOR, WE REALLY STARTED TO DIVE IN. THIS COMES FROM THE OWNER NOT FROM ME BUT IT IS DUBBED THE PINK PALACE. SO I REALLY WANTED TO GET AWAY FROM THE MAUVE AND TAUPE KIND OF COLORS AND SO WHEN WE WENT OUT THERE AND LOOKED AT DIFFERENT IMAGES THAT WE HAD IT WAS REALLY ACTUALLY HARD TO DEFINE WHAT THAT COLOR WAS ESPECIALLY WHEN LOOKING AT FUTURE SCOPES AND COLOR OPTIONS SO WE ENDED UP DOING WAS RENDERING THE EXISTING ONE OUT AND TRIED TO COLOR MATCH PRECAST CONCRETE SO THERE WAS A TEXTURE TO IT BUT IT DOES ACTUALLY KIND OF READ VERY PINK WHEN YOU ARE THERE IN PERSON. SO OUR PROPOSED DESIGN WOULD BE TO CLEAN POWER WASH AND STAIN EXISTING BUILDING NO NEW ADDITIONS BUT IT REALLY TRIED TO MODERNIZE AND TONE DOWN THE PINK AND THE MOTHS THAT ARE THERE EXISTING. SO WE HAVE SOME COLOR SWATCHES HERE SO IT WOULD BE A DARKER TAN BASE, A LIGHTER BEIGE TOP AND THEN TO REALLY HELP HONE IN ON THE ENTRY WHICH THE HOSPITAL HAS A HARD TIME DIRECTING PEOPLE WHICH WAY THEY SHOULD GO WITH THIS SHARED CANOPY. BECAUSE BOTH MAIN ENTRIES ARE UNDER THAT CENTRAL CANOPY SO REALLY HONING IN ON THAT LOWER LEVEL OF TRYING TO DIRECT PEOPLE TO EITHER THE MAIN ENTRY OR TO THE EMERGENCY DEPARTMENT WITH A DARKER CONTRASTING COLOR HERE SO I CAN PASS THESE AROUND. BUT THESE WILL BE OUR PROPOSED COLOR OPTIONS WITH SOME TEXTURE. AND IN ADDITION TO THE STAINING OF THE BUILDING WHICH IS THE MAJOR COMPONENT, WE ARE LOOKING AT ENHANCING THE VERTICAL ELEMENTS. THEREFORE THERE'S ONLY TWO SHOWN HERE BUT ON THE 31 SIDE AND ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE HOSPITAL THERE ARE IDENTICAL VERTICAL ELEMENTS AND WE ARE PROPOSING ADDING A HIGH PRESSURE LAMINATE PANEL THAT WOULD LOOK A LOT OF THE INTERIOR REFRESH IS BRINGING IN SOME WALNUTS AND SOME WARMER WOOD TONES SO REALLY TRYING TO BRING THAT ONTO THE EXTERIOR TO CREATE A COHESIVE EXTERIOR EXPERIENCE. UNDERNEATH THAT CANOPY EMERGENCY DEPARTMENT AS WELL, I HAVE SAMPLES OF THAT, AND THEN THIS WILL BE THE MAIN CANOPY ENTRY AS IT EXISTS. THIS RENDERED A LITTLE BIT DARK HERE BUT WOULD BE THE UPDATED TONES. WE'RE ALSO PROPOSING ADDING NEW COPING. RIGHT NOW IT IS A MAUVE PINK. JUST TO HELP MODERNIZE AGAIN THE BUILDING. AND ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE MEDICAL OFFICE BUILDING SO THIS WILL BE A RAMP AS YOU ARE EMERGING FROM 31 ON TO 465 THIS BLANK WALL HERE, THE OWNER REALLY WANTED TO HIT HOME THE HEART CENTER BUT GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY AND VISIBILITY FROM 31 AS PEOPLE ARE TRAVELING TO AND FROM INDIANAPOLIS REALLY [00:10:03] WANTED TO ENHANCE THAT BLANK WALL WITH A METAL PANEL OR MURAL, METAL PANEL FACADE THAT THEN WOULD BE BACKLIT AFTER HOURS OR KIND OF THROUGHOUT THE EVENING. SO PROPOSING A KIND OF CHAMPAGNE COLORED METAL PANEL THAT WOULD BE PERFORATED AND THEN BACKLIT. IT WOULD BE A STAGNANT LIGHT JUST LIKE A WHITE LUSH GLOW. I HAVE AN EXTERIOR RENDERING AS WELL THAT WOULD GLOW DURING DUSK TO DAWN AND THEN, YEAH, IT WOULD BE A STAGNANT LIGHT WITH NO PULSING. WE DID GO WITH THE ELECTRICAL ENGINEER TODAY THERE WAS SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT CHANGING THE COLOR. WOULD BE PREDOMINANTLY A WARM WHITE GLOW. HOWEVER, DRINK FEBRUARY DRINK THE NATIONAL HEART ASSOCIATION MONTH THEY WOULD HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO TURN IT RED. BUT AGAIN IT WOULD BE A SOLID RED. IT WOULD NOT BE MOVING OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. AND THAT'S A CUT SHEET. WE DO HAVE OUR EXTERIOR ELEVATIONS IF WE WANT TO WALK THROUGH THOSE. AND THEN THERE IS A SIGNAGE COMPONENT BUT I BELIEVE WE ARE GOING TO BE TABLING THAT DISCUSSION FOR NOW. SO I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS BUT TONIGHT WE WILL BE LOOKING FOR APPROVAL FOR EVERYTHING BUT THE SIGNAGE AND I CAN PASS THESE AROUND. >> THANK YOU STAFF PEER COMMENTS? >> THANK YOU. THE PETITIONER ADDRESSED ALL OF OUR REVIEW COMMENTS AND REGARDING THE SIGNAGE THEY WOULD LIKE TO TABLE THE SIGNAGE COMPONENT UNTIL AFTER THEY'VE HAD TIME TO MAKE SOME ADJUSTMENTS AND THEN WE WOULD OFFER IT UP TO THE COMMITTEE IF YOU WOULD STILL LIKE TO SEE THE SIGNAGE. WE CAN HAVE IT COME THROUGH AS AN ADLS AMENDMENT APPLICATION. BUT IF NOT WE CAN ALSO JUST IF YOU ARE COMFORTABLE WITH IT YOU CAN HAVE THE STAFF REVIEW IT ADMINISTRATIVELY SO IT'S UP TO YOU. THANK YOU. >> COMMITTEE PEER COMMENTS QUESTIONS CONCERNS. >> A QUICK QUESTION. SO THE PERFORATED SIGN THAT'S NOT SIGNAGE. >> IT'S CONSIDERED WALL ART. >> THAT'S MY QUESTION AS WELL. >> THAT'S ONLY GOING TO BE READ IN FEBRUARY. >> THAT WOULD BE THEIR INTENT. I THINK THEY HAVE EXISTING LIGHTS ON THEIR FACILITY ON THEIR SITE THAT DO CHANGE READ DURING FEBRUARY FEBRUARY IT WOULD BE THEY WOULD HAVE THE ABILITY TO CHANGE IT TO BE READ, MAYBE NOT EVERY YEAR BUT HAVE THAT OPTION. >> I THINK I MISHEARD. JUST TO CLARIFY HEART MONTH IS FEBRUARY NOT NOVEMBER. I THINK YOU SAID NOVEMBER EARLIER. >> THAT WAS ME. >> YOU WERE GOOD I. MISUNDERSTOOD. I PERSONALLY LIKE THE WALL ART SO I'M GLAD IT'S NOT SIGNAGE. I REALLY APPRECIATE ALL THE UPDATES YOU ARE DOING AND REFRESHING THE BUILDING. THAT'S FANTASTIC. SO REFRESH MY MEMORY ON THE SIGN WITH THE HEART. IS THAT THE SIDE THAT FACES US 31 OR IS IT ON THE SIDE THAT FACES OTHER -- GYM. >> IT FACES 106 AS YOU GET ON THE ON RAMP FROM 31 TO EITHER EAST OR WESTBOUND FOR 65. YOU KIND OF DRIVE RIGHT. YOU WERE LOOKING AT IT TO YOUR RIGHT AS YOU HEADING THERE. >> RIGHT NOW DOES THIS OPEN UP, I'M TRYING TO THINK WHAT'S NEXT TO THE LIGHT. IS ANY OF THE LIGHT GOING TO SPILL OVER? >> IT WILL SPILL OUT ONTO A LITTLE BIT OF OUR PROPERTY HERE. THERE ARE SOME TREES PROBABLY NOT ALL THAT ARE SHOWN IN THIS PHOTOMETRIC PLAN BUT THERE WILL BE A LITTLE BIT OF LIGHT DOWN IN FRONT OF THE BUILDING BUT NOTHING THAT WOULD GET CLOSE TO THE HIGHWAY OR PROPERTY LINES. >> THAT WAS MY QUESTION AS WE WERE. I THINK IT LOOKS GREAT. BUT AS WE HAD RECENTLY GONE THROUGH U.S. 31 PLAN ONE OF OUR BIG CONCERNS WAS THE LIGHTING ON ALL THE BUILDINGS AND WANT TO MAKE SURE THERE WASN'T GOING TO BE SPILL OVER INTO ANYTHING, ANOTHER PROPERTY SO IT SOUNDS LIKE THIS WILL NOT HAPPEN. >> I'M GOING TO GO BACK AND SHOW A LITTLE BIT MORE OF THE PROPERTY. SO HERE ARE THE ON RAMPS, THE ROUNDABOUTS AT 106 AND THE ON RAMP HERE WE WOULD BE LOOKING AT THIS WALL AND IT'S NOT THIS WHOLE WALL. [00:15:01] IT'S A MIDDLE PORTION. THE LIGHT IS PROBABLY EXAGGERATED. IT COMES TO ABOUT THAT. >> THANK YOU FOR SHOWING ME EXACTLY WHERE IT IS. THAT HELPS ME VISUALIZE THAT. SO THANK YOU. THEN ON THE HEALING GARDEN ARE YOU TAKING OUT ALL THE CONCRETE THAT'S ALREADY THERE AND MAKING IT GREEN SPACE AND PLANTING TREES? >> YES SO THERE WILL BE SOME CONCRETE WORK BUT A LOT OF IT WILL BE PAVERS. LET ME SEE IF I CAN ZOOM IN HERE. SO THESE LITTLE NODES HERE WOULD BE DONATION POTENTIAL SO CONCRETE PAVERS MULTIPLE SIZES THIS WOULD BE NEW CONCRETE WORK BUT IT WOULD BE ETCHED IN COLORED AND STUFF HERE SO REALLY JUST TRYING TO ENHANCE THAT EXPERIENCE. IT IS LOOKING A LITTLE SAD TO. SO I WAS REALLY TRYING. RIGHT NOW IT SEEMS LIKE IT MAY NOT EVEN BE USED AS A SORT OF. >> IT WAS PRETTY VACANT EVERY TIME THAT WE'VE BEEN THERE. AGAIN WE WERE THERE IN THE WINTER AS WELL BUT WHEN WE HAVE% A NICE DAY IT WOULD BE NICE FOR PEOPLE TO BE ABLE TO EXPERIENCE THAT SO YES THAT'S A REALLY NICE UPGRADE. SO THANK YOU. THOSE ARE MY TWO QUESTIONS. >> I LOVE ALL OF IT. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HEARD THAT FEEDBACK. THE ALIENS TALKING TO US UP HERE. I LOVE ALL OF IT. I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THE PRIMARY COLOR FOR THE ENTRANCE BEING A DARK BROWN. FOR A COUPLE REASONS. I WAS ON AN ADVISORY COMMITTEE MANY, MANY YEARS AGO AND DARK BROWN FOR AN EXTERIOR COLOR WAS NOT DESIRED BECAUSE IT SHOWS NICKS EASILY. AND IF IT'S AN EMERGENCY AND I KNOW THERE'S LIGHTING SO I DON'T KNOW HOW THIS IS GOING TO COME ACROSS BUT IF YOU ARE REALLY WANTING TO KNOW WHERE IS THE ENTRANCE I DON'T KNOW THAT A DARK COLOR AT NIGHT IS HOW YOU ARE GOING TO FIND WHEN YOU NEED TO GO BEFORE GOD CALLS YOU UP. >> SURE. I DO THINK THESE RENDERINGS DO NOT DO THE LETTERING UNDERNEATH JUSTICE. THEY ARE VERY DARK BUT I DO THINK WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO LIGHTEN A FEW OF THESE. IF WE ARE GOING TO GO START DOING LITTLE TEST AREAS IN THE BACK TO SEE HOW THE STAIN ACTUALLY ACCEPTS THE CONCRETE SO THESE ARE GOALS AS WE START TO SEE HOW THAT GETS ONTO THE CONCRETE. I THINK WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO KIND OF WHITEN AND PLAY WITH SOME OF THAT. >> I AGREE IT NEEDS TO BE A DIFFERENT COLOR SO YOU CAN SAY GO TO WHATEVER COLOR IT IS PART OF THE BUILDING TO GET IN. I JUST DON'T KNOW THAT BROWN IS THE RIGHT COLOR. AND I'M NOT GOING TO FALL ON THE SWORD ON THAT. >> I MIGHT PUSH BACK A LITTLE BIT. I THINK MY ASSUMPTION IS THAT THE SIGNAGE IF WE WERE ABLE TO SEE A RENDERING OF THIS WOULD RESOLVE A LOT OF THE CONCERN. >> I THINK WE COULD PROVIDE THAT IF NECESSARY. WITH THE SIGNAGE COMPONENT, ONE OTHER BIG ISSUES RIGHT NOW IS THAT WAY FINDING SO WHEN WE GET THAT UPDATED PACKET WHEN WE COME BACK WITH THAT FOR YOU GUYS HOPEFULLY THAT WILL HELP ADDRESS SOME OF THAT CONCERN. >> I'M GOING TO DEFER TO THE ARCHITECTS ON THAT ONE. ANYONE ELSE? >> I WOULD LIKE TO SEE A NIGHT RENDERING. AS LONG AS THE EMERGENCY. IT'S HARD TO GET TO THE HEART CENTER ANYWAY SO AS LONG AS PEOPLE KNOW WHERE THE EMERGENCY ENTRANCE IS I. THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT. I DO LIKE THE DARK. I JUST WANT TO MAKE, I AM FINE WITH MAKING ADJUSTMENTS BUT I DO WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT AN EMERGENCY PEOPLE DEFINITELY KNOW WHERE TO GO. >> I WANT TO EMPHASIZE WHAT TERESA JUST SAID BECAUSE HAVING TAKEN PEOPLE TO THE HEART HOSPITAL IT'S VERY DIFFICULT. WE ARE NOT DOING SIGNAGE TONIGHT BUT WHEN YOU FIRST COME IN AND ARE IN A PANIC I THINK IT'S HARD TO KNOW WHERE THE EMERGENCY ROOM IS AND I THINK MANY PEOPLE GO TO THE MAIN ENTRANCE FIRST YOU'VE GOT THAT LONG HALLWAY. AND I'M HOPING THIS COMES BACK, THE SIGNAGE SIMPLY BECAUSE I [00:20:03] WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE FINAL PACKAGE. BUT I JUST CAN'T STRESS THAT ENOUGH. THOSE SIGNS COULD BE UPRIGHT WHEN YOU FIRST CAME IN. I REALIZE I HAVEN'T GONE THROUGH BUT I THINK IT'S FAIRLY POORLY LAID OUT. CONSIDERING THE NATURE OF PEOPLE ARE COMING. >> I HOPE WHEN WE BRING THE SIGNAGE BACK YOUR CONCERNS ARE ADDRESSED. >> I WILL CHIME IN ONCE MORE ON THE LIGHTING. REMIND ME. PARKING LOT LIGHTS ARE THEY 24, THROUGHOUT THE NIGHT? ANYONE KNOW? >> I DON'T KNOW BUT I WOULD IMAGINE GIVEN THE NATURE OF THE BUILDING. >> JUST THINKING THROUGH THIS OUT I. WOULD IMAGINE THE PARKING LOT LIGHTING PROBABLY HAS MORE LIGHT POLLUTION THAN THIS NEW ARTISTIC FEATURE THAT WE ARE EXPLORING. >> I WOULD SAY YES. >> YOUR HEAT MAP DOES A BETTER JOB OF SHOWING WHERE THAT LIGHT WAS BEING THROWN FROM. MAYBE I'M BEATING A DEAD HORSE HERE. >> THE LIGHTS GO ALMOST ALL THE WAY TO 106. >> THIS MAP IS TURNED SO OUR FEATURE WOULD BE THE CENTER PORTION HERE. THIS ONE DOES NOT HAVE, SO IT'S SHOWING ZERO UNDER THIS LIGHT POLL. THAT WOULD NOT BE THE CASE. SO THIS WAS JUST DONE FOR THE PIECE OF ART AND STARTS TO TAPER OFF PRETTY QUICKLY TO THE SIDES. THERE IS THAT COMES ABOUT TO THAT LANDSCAPING BED. SORT OF A SMALL ARC. >> GREAT THANK YOU. ANY OTHER COMMENTS QUESTIONS CONCERNS, COMMITTEE. DO I HAVE A MOTION CAN WE. >> THE MOTION WOULD BE TO APPROVE ALL EXTERIOR DESIGN CHANGES MINUS SIGNAGE IS MY UNDERSTANDING. >> CAN IT BE READ ALL THE TIME CAN WE. >> COULD IT BE. I JUST MEAN SOMEBODY WOULD KNOW IN AN EMERGENCY THIS IS THE HEART HOSPITAL. I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT DOES WITH ALL OF THE REST OF THE 31 PLANNING BUT I THINK THIS IS IMPORTANT. AND I JUST WONDERED IF YOU COULD LOOK AT THAT OF THE DEPARTMENT COULD. >> WILL THAT CHANGE OUR MOTION CAN WE. >> I'M ASSUMING THAT YOU HAVE SPENT A LOT OF TIME THINKING ESTHETICALLY WHAT'S GOING TO LOOK BEST, WHAT COLOR OF THE LIGHT, CAN I GET WHEN IT'S HEART MONTH THE IMPORTANCE OF CHANGING THAT COLOR FOR THAT MONTH TO BRING ATTENTION TO THE FACT IT'S THAT MONTH. SO I AM NOT SURE I WANT TO DICTATE FROM THIS WHAT COLOR OF LIGHT THAT HEART NEEDS TO BE. BUT IF YOU'VE GOT STRONG FEELINGS ON THE COLOR OF LIGHT I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR THAT. >> I GUESS I DON'T. I GUESS I'M ALWAYS INTERESTED IN AND ENVISION IT BEING A WARM LIGHT. IT WASN'T UNTIL TODAY THAT WE TALKED ABOUT ADDING COLOR OR THE ABILITY TO ADD SOME COLOR SO I GUESS IN MY MIND IT'S ALWAYS BEEN A BACKLIT PANEL IT'S A WARM GLOW TO KIND OF JUST ILLUSTRATE THIS IS THE HEART HOSPITAL OF. AND I UNDERSTAND THE CONCERN THAT RED NEEDING TO FIND A, BUT WHEN YOU'RE GOING TO BE SEEING IT YOU'RE ALREADY PAST THE ENTRANCE TO THE HOSPITAL. YOU WOULD SEE IT ONCE YOU ARE MERGING ONTO A 465. SO I GUESS I DON'T HAVE SUPER STRONG FEELINGS BUT HAVE ALWAYS ENVISIONED IT BEING A WARM LI LIGHT. >> I AGREE WITH CHRISTINE. I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD BE DICTATING WHAT THE COLOR OF THE LIGHT IS. FOR ME SEEING A RED HEART ON THE SIDE OF THE BUILDING VERSUS THE WHITE HEART ON THE SIDE OF THE BUILDING DOESN'T TELL ME THAT'S A HEART CENTER SO I DON'T WANT TO DICTATE FROM THE DAIS WHAT COLOR IT SHOULD BE BUT I LIKE THE IDEA OF HAVING A DIFFERENT COLOR FOR HEART AWARENESS MONTH BUT I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD BE DICTATING THAT HERE. >> SORRY I KEEP INTERRUPTING. THIS IS MY SECOND DAY IN A ROW THAT I. BEEN AND I THINK IT'S A [00:25:05] SITUATION WHERE IT'S PRETTY EASY TO CHANGE THOSE COLORS. IS THAT LIKE PLATO SCOPE. MAY BE IT SHOULD BE SOMETHING SIMILAR. >> OKAY SO IT SHOULD BE PRETTY EASY LIKE YOU SAID ORANGE POSSIBLY. ALSO I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE SIGNAGE. I THINK THAT WILL BE VERY IMPORTANT. THE SIGNAGE AGAIN, THE ENTRANCE IS DIFFICULT TO FIND AS IT IS SO THAT WILL BE IMPORTANT TO SEE. >> THAT WAS GOING TO BE MY COMMENT. I'M REALLY CONCERNED ABOUT THE ENTRANCE. THAT'S MY NECK OF THE WOODS SO I AM BY THERE ALL THE TIME, FREQUENTLY. AND WHEN I'M TRAINING FOR THE MINI MARATHON I RUN THROUGH THE PARKING LOT SO I'M VERY FAMILIAR WITH THAT. AND IN AN EMERGENCY IT'S ON A CURVE ANYWAY WHEN YOU WERE GOING AROUND ILLINOIS STREET TRYING TO FIND THE ENTRANCE. YOU SEE IT FROM 31 AND YET YOU HAVE TO GET OFF ON 116TH IF ON 31 OR WHATEVER YOU ARE COMING FROM YOU HAVE TO KNOW YOU ARE GOING TO 106TH AND CONTINUE SOUTH BEFORE YOU CAN TURN IN. I KNOW THAT'S NOT WHAT WE WERE DOING TONIGHT. I WILL ECHO WHAT OTHER PEOPLE HAVE SAID. I THINK KNOWING WHERE TO TURN IN AND THEN KNOWING WHERE TO GO ONCE YOU HAVE TURNED IN ARE PROBABLY MY TWO BIGGEST CONCERNS WITH THAT AND HAVE BEEN FOR A LONG TIME. THANK YOU. >> NOT A PROBLEM. IN THIS PACKET WE HAD A MEETING TODAY BUT IS, LET ME SEE AND SCROLL DOWN. THERE ARE SEVERAL SIGNS. NOT ONLY JUST THE MAIN MONUMENT SIGNS THAT THEY ARE LOOKING TO REPLACE BUT SOME INTERNAL PARKING SIGNAGE TO HELP NAVIGATE AND SHOW PEOPLE WHERE TO GO BECAUSE IT'S A DIFFICULT SITE TO NAVIGATE. YOU'RE COMING ON A CURVE GOING UP A HILL. IT IS VERY CONGESTED IN THIS AREA. THE PARKING LAYOUT ISN'T GREAT. SO IT'S IN THE WORKS. WE WANT TO MAKE SOME TWEAKS BEFORE WE PRESENT IT. >> YOU WOULD BE COMFORTABLE BRINGING BACK THE SIGNAGE FULL BODY FOR US TO REVIEW. >> DO WE HAVE A MOTION. >> I MOVE TO APPROVE ASCENSION ST. VINCENT HEART CENTER DOCUMENT POSITION TONIGHT WITH THE EXCEPTION OF SIGNAGE AND SIGNAGE COME BACK WHEN YOU ARE READY TO A COMMITTEE MEETING FOR REVIEW. >> MOTION SECOND ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE. MOTION CARRIES. THANK YOU. OUR NEXT MEETING IS THE FULL PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING WHICH IS TUESDAY THE 15TH, 18TH. THAT'S WHAT I MEANT. THAT'S * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.