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GOOD EVENING. WELCOME TO THE OCTOBER 6 PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING HER TONIGHT WE HAVE THREE ITEMS ON
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THE DOCKET NUMBER ONE HAS BEEN TABLED UNTIL NOVEMBER 5.WE WILL BEGIN TALKING ABOUT PZ-2026-00157 DP/ADLS.
THAT IS CATALYST HEALTHCARE REHAB AND THERAPY FACILITY.
WE WILL ALSO COMBINE THAT WITH DOCKET NUMBER PZ-2026-00173 V, CATALYST HEALTHCARE ROOF DESIGN VARIANCE, PUD SECTION 5.9.
GROUPS OF ALL BUILDINGS TO BE LOW SLOPED ROOF OR TRANSFERRED ROOF, FLAT ROOF REQUESTED. THE APPLICANTS APPLICANT SEEKS PLANTED DESIGN APPROVAL AND ONE VARIANCE TO ALLOW A NEW TWO-STORY REHABILITATION AND THERAPY FACILITY.
THE SITE IS LOCATED AT 13400 ILLINOIS STREET AND IS ZONED HIGHPOINT ON MERIDIAN PUD Z-559-12.
FILED BY JIM SHINAVER AND JON DOBOSIEWIZ OF NELSON & FRANKENBERGER ON BEHALF OF CHL DEVELOPMENTS.
>> WE REPRESENT THE APPLICANT O BEHALF OF CATALYST HEALTHCARE REAL ESTATE AS WELL AS OTHER MEMBERS ON THE DEVELOPMENT TEAM ARE HERE THIS EVENING. JUST TO REACQUAINT THE PLANNING COMMISSION, THE SITE PLAN THAT WAS PRESENTED AT YOUR LAST MEETING, 5.4 ACRES LOCATED HERE AS YOU SEE ON YOUR SCREEN ON TH NORTH NORTH SIDE OF ILLINOIS STREET.
ACTUALLY IT'S A BIT ODD BECAUSE ILLINOIS STREET TURNS TO THE EAST RIGHT THERE AND THEN BACK TO THE NORTH SO THE BACK OR NORTH SIDE OF THE SITE IS TO TH NORTH AND THE LEFT-HAND SIDE AN TO THE WEST AND GENERALLY NORTHEAST ARE THE ADJACENT DEPARTMENTS. THIS IS THE SITE PLAN WHICH IS RELATIVELY UNCHANGED FROM WHAT YOU SAW LAST TIME WITH THE EXCEPTIONS UP ADDITIONAL LANDSCAPING THAT WAS ADDED ALON PARKING LOT.RIMETER OF THE - THAT IS THE LAST LOT I WILL SHO YOU. IN ADDITION THERE WERE THREE OUTSTANDING COMMENTS FROM STAFF AND ONE OF WHICH WAS TO ADDRESS A FOUNDATION PLANTING ALONG THE NORTH SIDE OF THE BUILDING.
IT'S A LITTLE DIFFICULT TO SEE BUT THIS IS THE AREA OF THE FUTURE BUILDING AND THE BUILDIN ORIGINALLY DESIGNED FOR TWO STORIES FOR REHABILITATION FACILITY.
THAT IS RIGHT HERE APPEAR THE IDEA WAS NOT TO PLANT THE FOUNDATION PLANTINGS ALONG THAT EDGE BUT SINCE WE CAN'T COMMIT TO A CERTAIN TIMEFRAME WE SAID LET'S GO AHEAD AND PLANT THOSE AND THEY WILL JUST BE RELOCATED ON SITE ONCE THE REST IS DONE.
SO THAT IS THE ONE OUTSTANDING ISSUE THAT WE HAVE ASKED FOR TH PLANNING COMMISSION'S APPROVAL SUBJECT TO THAT CONDITION AND UPDATING THE LANDSCAPE CONDITIO AND REQUIREMENT.
THE NEXT ITEM THAT GARNERED THE MOST DISCUSSION AT LAST MEETING BUT WITH GUARD TO THE BUILDING ELEVATION AND THE PRODUCTION OF THE BUILDING THAT WAS CONSISTEN WITH THE TEMPORARY STYLE, THIS WAS THE ORIGINAL DESIGN ON THE NORTH AT THE TOP OF THE PLAN AN THIS IS THE ELEVATION AND THE REVISIONS OF THE PLAN CAME UP O WITH A PLAN WAS MORE SYMMETRICA PROVIDED CONSISTENT WINDOW ELEMENTS THAT WERE CONSISTENT ACROSS THE SITE AND THE ALLOWANCE OF THIS ADDITIONAL SITE HERE ACTUALLY ALLOWED FOR FURTHER REDUCTION OF THE SCREEN WALL WHICH IS BEHIND THAT.
IT WILL FURTHER TAKE DOWN THE POTENTIAL APPEARANCE OF THE PORTION OF THE BUILDING. IT IS 180 FEET TO THE NORTH AND WEST FROM THE OPPOSITION BUT AL THIS IS AN EFFORT TO NOT HAVE THAT BUILDING BE VISIBLE FROM THE ADJACENT RESIDENTIAL AREA.
PRIOR ELEVATION, WHICH IS THE RESULT, RUPERT RESULTING IN A REVISION, THIS ELEMENT PICKS UP THAT SAME BUT I WILL CALL THE SOUTH ELEVATION WHICH IDENTIFIE ILLINOIS STREET AND THIS IS THE LEFT-HAND SIDE WHICH FACES THE APARTMENTS TO THE NORTH.
AND THEN THE ELEVATION WHICH FACES NORTH AND THE ELEVATION O THIS SITE BASIS SOUTH. THIS LAST EXHIBIT BEFORE THE LANDSCAPING IDENTIFIES THE O2 TANK ENCLOSURE.
THAT IS APPROXIMATELY 16 FEET I HEIGHT AND IS LOCATED HERE ADJACENT TO THE BUILDING. THE GENERATOR ENCLOSURE
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ELEVATION, ONE OF THE FOUR ELEVATION SHOWN HERE IS LOCATED AT THE VERY BACK NORTHEAST CORNER OF THE BUILDING SO THERE IS THE EXISTING BUILDING, GENERATOR, TANK ENCLOSURE AND THEN A THIRD ELEMENT THAT WE'VE IDENTIFIED HERE, THIS IS AN ELEMENT THAT IS JUST ADJACENT T THE ENTRANCE OF THE BUILDING AN THE REASON YOU SEE THE RAMP AND THE RAILING, THIS IS AN OUTDOOR CONTEMPLATIVE SPACE WHERE PATRONS IN THE BUILDING, IF THERE'S A WHEELCHAIR, THEY CAN ACCESS THE WHEELCHAIR AND IT'S REFLECTION GARDEN SO YOU NOT SEEING ALL THE LANDSCAPING AND HARDSCAPE THAT THEY DO AND THES ARE THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN MADE IN THAT LOCATION ON THE SITE.AND THEN FINALLY THIS IS THE UPDATED LANDSCAPING PLAN WHERE, AGAIN, YOU DON'T SEE THE FOUNDATION PLANTINGS RIGHT HERE BUT YOU SEE THE ADDITIONAL PRE- PLANTINGS THAT WOULD OCCUR ADJACENT TO THE PARKING LOT BUT AGAIN, THE THREES THAT YOU SEE ON THE SITE PLAN TODAY THAT ARE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THAT DETENTION AREA, THOSE ARE THREE THAT WILL BE PRESERVED.
AGAIN, BACK TO THE THREE REMAINING COMMENTS FROM STAFF, ONE WAS ADDRESSING THE ARCHITECTURE COMMENTS, AGAIN, LET ME JUMP BACK TO THAT P-LETTER IS SORRY.
THE TOP ELEVATION HERE, WHEN THOSE BUILDING REVISIONS WERE MADE, THIS WAS THE PRIOR DESIGN AND THIS IS THE NEW ONE.
THE AREA BETWEEN THE WINDOWS THAT YOU SEE HERE, THAT WAS DESIGNED AS AN ETHOS PRODUCT AN WHEN THEY DID THAT, THEY EXCEEDED THE% ALLOWANCE AND SUPPORT THE APPLICANT IS ASKING FOR IS THE APPLICANT HAS INDICATED THAT THEY WILL COME U WITH AN ALTERNATE MATERIAL AND ROUTE MATERIAL FOR THAT SAME SPACE OF THE DESIGN SHON ON THE PLAN AND WILL PRESENT THAT TO STAFF HERE THEY WOULD ASK FOR YOUR APPROVAL SUBJECT TO MEETIN THAT 10% REQUIREMENT AND THEY CONTEMPLATED THAT OPTION FOR SEEKING A VARIANCE BUT THEY ARE CONFIDENT THROUGH DISCUSSIONS WITH THE ARCHITECT THIS AFTERNOON THAT THEY CAN MEE THE 10% ALLOWANCE. WE ARE CURRENTLY THERE AT 17% ETHOS. AGAIN THEY ARE CONTEMPLATING MODIFYING THE MATERIAL THAT YOU SEE IN BETWEEN THE WINDOWS FROM AN ETHOS PRODUCT OUT TO A CAST PRODUCT THAT WOULD BE PERMISSIBLE UNDER THE TERMS. SO IT IS WITH THAT CONDITION TO MEET THE FOUNDATION PLANTING REQUIREMENT THAT WE ARE SEEKING THE APPROVAL OF THE BUILDING HEIGHT, RATHER ANOTHER BUILDING HEIGHT BUT THE PITCHED ROOF REQUIREMENT THAT WAS READ INTO THE RECORD EARLIER. THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU, JOHN. >> THANK YOU.
THE PETITIONER HAS MADE SEVERAL POSITIVE CHANGES TO THE BUILDIN IN THE SAME BUILDING DESIGN AND THE BUILDING DESIGN HAS GREATLY IMPROVED FROM THE ORIGINAL SUBMITTAL AND NOW MEETS THE PUD.
THAT SIGN NOW AS MORAVEC CONTEMPORARY STYLE WITH A MORE DECORATIVE CORNICE AND THE WINDOWS ARE TALLER AND NARROW I PROPORTION. I THINK THAT LENDS ITSELF TO THIS DESIGN TO BETTER SUPPORT THAT VARIANCE REQUESTED SO WE ARE GOING TO ALLOW THE FLAT ROOF .
THE BUILDING HAS A STACK STONE BASE NOW MUST HELP WITH ARCHITECTURAL CONCRETE TO THE WALLS AND THE DEPARTMENT REPORT WE HAD MENTIONED THE NORTH FAÇADE AND WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WAS MEETING THE PUD T BREAK UP THE FAÇADE BECAUSE IT CAN'T BE LONGER THAN 100 FEET WITHOUT BREAKING UP THAT ELEVATION AND WE BELIEVE THAT I ACCOMPLISHED WITH THAT DROP OFF CANIDAE ON THAT SIDE. AS JOHN MENTIONED, ONE WAY THEY ARE ABLE TO ADD MORE DETAILS TO THE BUILDING WAS THROUGH ETHOS AND THE PUD LIMITS THAT HE 10% OF THE BUILDING AND THEY ARE AT ABOUT 17% RIGHT NOW BUT IF THEY ARE WANTING TO PRODUCE THAT, THEN WE ARE HAPPY WITH THAT AND THEY CAN APPLY FOR THE VARIANCE.
THE FOUNDATION PLANTINGS WERE ADDED TO THE FRONT AND SIDES OF THE BUILDING BUT AS STATED, THE DIDN'T PUT ANY AT THE REAR OF THE BUILDING AND THE REASON WAS IF THEY ARE GOING TO HAVE A SECOND PHASE ADDITION. SINCE WE DON'T KNOW WHEN THAT I GOING TO BE, WE ARE HAPPY WITH THOSE FOUNDATION PLANTINGS FOR NOW. THAT'S GREAT.
THEY ALSO HAD MORE THREES ALONG THE NORTH AND WEST SIDE OF THE PARKING LOT, WHICH WE DISCUSSED AND WE ARE GRATEFUL FOR THEM FO
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ADDING THAT AND MAYBE YOU GUYS COULD TALK ABOUT THIS AS WELL BUT DISCUSS LONGEVITY BECAUSE THERE IS QUITE A CHANGE IN GRAD THAT GOES DOWN TO THE ATTENTION BASE.PETITIONER BROUGHT THAT UP AND THAT IS A BIG CHANGE IN GRADE BUT IF THE CHANGE CAN BE SUCCESSFUL, I THINK IT IS POSITIVE. WE DO STILL NEED TO SEE THE TRASH ELEVATION BUT I'M COMFORTABLE WITH APPROVING THOSE . THEY NEED TO MATCH THE SIDE OF THE BUILDING AS WELL AND THEY'V ALREADY SHOWED US THAT WITH THE GENERATOR ENCLOSURE. SO WE PUT RECOMMEND THAT YOU APPROVE THIS PROJECT THIS EVENING CONTINGENT ON PETITIONE SUBMITTING THAT TRASH ENCLOSURE ELEVATION OR APPLYING FOR A VARIANCE AND ADDING THE FOUNDATION PLANTINGS ALONG THE NORTH FAÇADE TO MEET THE PUD. THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU. ANY COMMENTS, QUESTIONS.
>> THIS LOOKS MUCH NICER, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
IT'S DEFINITELY, AND MY OPINION AND IMPROVED LOOKING PROJECT.
SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ARE THE SIGNAGE COMBAT IS COMIN
THEY WERE NOT READY FOR THAT WITH THIS PROJECT SO WE WILL HAVE TO COME BACK FOR AN AMENDMENT FOR THE SIGNAGE ON TH
BUILDING. >> TO THE HAVE TO COME BACK FOR
THE BUFFER AT ALL NOW? >> I DON'T BELIEVE SO.
THE BOPPER, THERE'S A 50-FOOT AREA ALONG THE NORTHWEST SIDE S THEY ARE MEETING THAT. YOU MEAN AROND THE PARKING LOT?
>> NO, THAT WAS MORE OF A REQUEST IN THE AD SO IF THEY AR WILLING TO DO THAT AND CONSULT WITH A LANDSCAPE CONSULTANT TO MAKE SURE THE THREES REMAIN HEALTHY THERE, THEN THEY ARE SHOWING WHAT WE ASK FOR. THANK YOU.
I WILL GO QUICK. I'M STRUGGLING WITH THE AREA YO DESCRIBED AS THE NEW ADA RAMP. WHERE IN RELATION TO THE RENDERINGS ARE WE TALKING ABOUT THAT.
THIS IS THAT DROP OFF THAT FACE ILLINOIS STREET AND IT FACES RIGHT HERE. OKAY.
SO THE LIGHTER AREAS THE SIDEWALK THAT SURROUNDS AT AND WHAT IS REPRESENTED ON THE ELEVATION IS JUST A COVERED ELEMENT TO PROVIDE SOME SHADE AND SCREEN? I GUESS THE RENDERINGS WHERE IS THAT ON THE RENDERINGS THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT. IT WILL BE PLACED AT THE
ENTRANCE. >> MAYBE I CAN SHARE SOME DETAILS. THIS IS KNOWN AS A MOBILITY GUARD. AND IT'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE PATIENT SCOTT SIDE AND THERE'S DIFFERENT VARIABLES IN THAT REGARD. STAIRS, RAMP, SO FORTH, TO BE ABLE TO OPERATE IN EVERYDAY LIF AND THAT IS AN IMPORTANT PART S IT'S USUALLY WELL RECEIVED. MY BRAIN WAS NOT COMPUTING WHER THOSE WERE GOING. REMIND ME AGAIN WHAT THE PITCH IS AND WHY YOU DESIRED THE FLAT ROOF AND WHILE YOU ARE GATHERIN YOUR THOUGHTS, I APPRECIATE THA SIGN.
BASED ON THE DEPTH OF THE BUILDING, IT WOULD REQUIRE APPROVAL ELEMENT THAT THE PROXIMATE AND ADDITIONAL 25 FEE APPROACHING 60-FOOT HEIGHT WITH THE PEAK OF THE ROOF WHICH IS FROM THE ADJACENT TO THE PRESIDENT THAT IS THE COMPONENT THAT WE SPOKE TO AT OUR NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING BACK IN TH SUMMER WHEN WE WERE IN FRONT OF THE BOARD.
>> THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR REFRESHING MY MEMORY ABOUT THAT. WE HAVE A CALL FOR EMOTION? QUESTIONS, ANYONE ELSE. CALL FOR A MOTION.
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>> I MOVE WE APPROVE DOCKET ITEMS PZ-2026-00157 DP/ADLS AND PZ-2026-00173 V SUBJECT TO MEETING THE 10% ETHOS REQUIREMENT THAT THE PLANNING NOW FOR PHASE TWO AND MEETING THE TRASH ENCLOSURE DESIGN, IS THAT IT?
>> SECOND THE MOTION. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
[4. Docket No. PZ-2026-00158 PUD: Clayshire PUD Rezone. ]
MOTION CARRIES. IS THIS ONE YOURS.
THANK YOU, JOHN. WE MOVE ONTO OUR LAST ITEM ON THE DOCKET. , PZ-2026-00158 PUD.
THE APPLICANT SEEKS PUD REZONE APPROVAL TO ALLOW A NEW SUBDIVISION WITH 53 LOTS BID THIS SITE IS LOCATED AT ONE TO 411 TOWN ROAD. IT IS ZONED S/1 RESIDENTIAL.
FILED BY JIM SHINAVER AND JON DOBOSIEWIZ OF NELSON & FRANKENBERGER ON BEHALF OF OF M HOMES OF INDIANA OR JOHN,
FOR THE RECORD, JIM SHINAVER, NELSON & FRANKENBERGER, AND WE ARE REPRESENTING THIS MATTER FO MI HOMES.
AS WELL AS REPRESENTATIVES FROM ARCHITECTURE.
SORRY. WE ARE ALL HERE TO ADDRESS QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE HAD WE HAVE A BRIEF PRESENTATIO ABOUT WHERE WE ARE AND FROM WHA STAFF HAS ASKED FOR.
AFTER THE CONCLUSION TONIGHT, W WOULD ANTICIPATE COMING BACK TO THE PLAN COMMISSION AT YOUR WORKSHOP AND AT YOUR COMMITTEE MEETING IN NOVEMBER BEFORE YOU CAN SEE THAT PLANNING COMMISSIO AND ACTION BACK TO THOUGHTFUL PLANNING COMMISSION AT A FURTHE DATE. I SAY THAT BECAUSE THERE WERE A LOT OF ITEMS AMIL HAD A SHORT WINDOW BETWEEN THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND THIS WORKSHOP OR COMMITTEE MEETING, RATHER.
I WAS THERE LAST NIGHT. WE WANT TO MEASURE TWICE BEFORE WE MAKE THE. OFFICIAL MODIFICATIONS TO THE PUD AND THN WE WILL PRESENT FINAL MATERIALS AT YOUR NEXT MEETING. WITH THAT, I WILL WALK THROUGH THE PLAN ADJUSTMENTS AND THAT I'M GOING TO HAVE REPRESENTATIVES FROM THEM COME UP AND TALK ABOUT THE ARCHITECTURE THAT ADDRESSES THA DESIGN.
THIS REVISED DESIGN IT'S VERY SIMILAR TO THE DESIGN THAT WAS ORIGINALLY FILED. IF THE PROPOSED CONNECTION TO THE ROUNDABOUT AND THAT ROUNDABOUT CONNECTION WOULD BE PUBLIC STREET CONNECTION TO THE ROUNDABOUT AND IT WAS REQUESTED BY PLANNING STAFF AS WELL AS SUPPORTED BY ENGINEERING TO PROVIDE THAT CONNECTION AND THE HAVE ASKED FOR SOME ADDITIONAL DETAILS SO BETWEEN THIS MEETING AT THE NEXT COMMITTEE MEETING, WE WILL PROVIDE THAT ADDITIONAL DETAIL BUT THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WAS REQUESTED AND OUR CLIENTS AGREED TO PROVIDE.
THAT PUBLIC STREET CONNECTION. ADDITIONALLY THERE WAS A REQUES MADE FOR THIS MEDIAN THAT YOU SEE HERE.
THERE'S A CUT IN THE MEDIAN AND THERE WILL BE ELIMINATION OF LANE AND ALAIN OUT ONTO TOWN ROAD.
BOTH OF THOSE ITEMS WERE ITEMS THAT WERE SPECIFICALLY ADDRESSE BY CARMEL ENGINEERING. I WILL JUMP INTO THIS EXHIBIT PROVIDES A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL REGARDING THE CONNECTION AT THE ROUNDABOUT AT THIS PROVIDE SOME ADDITIONAL DETAIL IN WHAT OCCURS AT THE MAIN ENTRANCE WITH THAT MEDIAN BREAK.
ANOTHER ITEM THAT WAS ADDRESSED FROM STAFF AS THE REQUEST FOR 25 % OPEN SPACE, WHICH PROJECT MODIFICATIONS HALF BEEN MADE AN WE ARE PRESENTING A 25% OPEN SPACE AND WE WILL COORDINATE WITH STAFF ON WHAT WAS SUBMITTED .
THERE WAS SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT AND STAFF CONFIRMED THERE IS ADDITIONAL REQUIREMENTS WITHIN THE OPEN SPACE SECTION AND WE DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM FOLLOWING UP ON THAT.
A FEW ADDITIONAL ITEMS, ONCE YO SEE ON THE PLAN OF ONE'S THAT YOU'D DON'T. I WILL BE PROVIDING PLAYGROUND
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IN THIS VICINITY RIGHT HERE IN ADDITION TO THAT ON THE PLAN, THEY ARE IN AGREEMENT WITH PROVIDING A PATH HERE TO THE EAST PROPERTY LINE SO BETWEEN THOSE TWO POINTS THEY WILL PROVIDE A CONNECTION THAT'S GOING TO BE AND THAT'S PART OF THE PRESENTATION AND WE WERE TALKING ABOUT FENCING AND LANDSCAPING ENHANCEMENTS ALONG THE PERIMETER SAW THERE WERE COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC ABOUT CONCERN THERE NOT BE SEPARATION BETWEEN THE ALLEYWAY NORTH OF OUR SITE HERE AND EAST OF OUR SITE HERE AND SOUTH HERE AND HERE AND THAT IS I'M FORECASTIN WITH THE PRESENTATION, THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THE FENCE AND IS JUST GOING TO BE AS WELL AS ADDITIONAL LANDSCAPING AND IT WILL BE IMPORTANT TO PROVIDE A PATHWAY CONNECTION FROM THE COMMON AREA TO THE COMMON AREA IN THE VILLAGE.I THINK IF THERE WAS A CONCERN ABOUT RESIDENCE TO PROVIDE AN ACTIVITY ENDED DIRECTION, DON'T GO HERE BUT GO HERE AS NOT A VEHICULAR BECAUSE IT'S A PEDESTRIAN CONNECTION.
THIS IS AN ADDITIONAL SLIDE THA WAS PROVIDED AT THE MEETING.
IT TALKS ABOUT THE PROVISION OF THE ADDITIONAL OPEN SPACE AND THIS IS THE OPEN SPACE PLAN FOR STAFF REVIEW.
THAT WAS ANOTHER CONDITION WITH THE ADDITION OF THE PLAYGROUND AND THEN STEP HAD ALSO REQUESTE THAT SHADE THREES BE PLANTED IN THE COMMON AREA AS A PROBATION AND THE APPLICANT IS AGREEABLE TO DO THAT. THIS NEXT SLIDE IDENTIFIES THE ADDITIONAL PLAYGROUND AMENITY THAT WILL BE PROVIDED PREVIOUSLY . THERE WAS THIS ELEMENT THAT LISTS A FIRE PIT. IN A PAVILION WITH TABLES INCLUDING HERE AND ADJACENT TO THAT, THE ADDITIONAL PLAYGROUND SPACE. I REVIEWED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THIS AT THE FIRST MEETING. THERE WERE QUESTIONS ABOUT DRAINAGE AND WHERE DOES THE DRAINAGE:HOW TO INTERACT AND WHAT ARE THE PRE-AND POST- DEVELOPMENT REQUIREMENTS FOR DRAINAGE BID THIS IS THE ZONING PHASE.
WE WOULD BE BACK IN FRONT OF TH COUNCIL WITH ANOTHER PUBLIC HEARING TO PROVIDE MORE DETAIL OF ENGINEERING PLACE AT THAT TIME, INCLUDING THE COUNTY SURVEYORS OFFICE AS WELL AS CARMEL ENGINEERING AND WE HAVE STRICT REQUIREMENT TO MEET BUT THIS IS THE PRELIMINARY PHASE O THAT BECAUSE THE QUESTION WAS ASKED AND I WANTED TO BE RESPONSIVE AND PROVIDE THIS INFORMATION TODAY. ON THE SITE THERE IS A PRE- DEVELOPMENT RELEASE RATE AND IT'S ABOUT 42 CUBIC FEET A SECOND. NOT ONLY AT THIS SITE BUT OTHER WITHIN CARMEL, THAT WOULD REDUC THAT DOWN TWO 3-POINT 7 CUBIC FEET A SECOND SO ABOUT A TEN FOLD DEDUCTION IN THAT FROM 42 CUBIC FEET A SECOND AND THAT WOULD GET REDUCED LIKEWISE FROM ABOUT 103 CUBIC FEET A SECOND DOWN 211 CUBIC FEET A SECOND.
HOW DOES THAT OCCUR? WE RETAIN THE STORMWATER ON-SITE . IS LOCATED HERE AND AN ADDITIONAL POND HERE AND AS YOU CAN SEE THERE ARE THESE ERRORS THAT WE SHOW HERE AND IT SHOWS YOU WHERE THAT STORMWATER GOES AND THE OUTFLOW IS TO THE SOUTHEAST.
WHEN ENGINEER PLANTS ARE DRAWN UP, THEY HAVE TO PROVIDE SPECIFIC ENGINEERING PLANS TO THE CITY ENGINEER'S OFFICE AND THEY REVIEW THAT AND THE CITY ENGINEER'S OFFICE, NOT THE ENGINEER OF RECORD, ENGINEER OF RECORD PREPARES THAT AND THE ENGINEER'S OFFICE REVIEWS THAT WITH COMPLIANCE WITH THEIR STORMWATER PRACTICES SO THERE I NOT A DETRIMENTAL EFFECT TO DOWNSTREAM EXISTING STORMWATER IMPROVEMENTS WHICH ARE LOCATED TO THE EAST OF THIS SITE. REGARDING ARCHITECTURE, I'M GOING TO HAVE STUDIO M COME UP IN A MINUTE AFTER WE HAVE DISCUSSION ABOUT THE TRANSITION BETWEEN THE TWO PROPERTIES THES ARE THE ELEVATIONS THAT WE HAVE SHOWN YOU AT THE PUBLIC HEARING AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION HAD ASKED FOR MORE DETAIL REGARDING SIDE ELEVATIONS AS WELL AS INDIVIDUAL LOT LANDSCAPING AND INDIVIDUAL LOT LANDSCAPING, THERE IS NO MINIMUM STANDARD TODAY. NOT THAT ANYBODY IS GOING TO -- BUT THERE IS NOT AN UNDERLYING POSITION AND THAT WAS A CONCERN THAT WAS RECEIVED. EACH INDIVIDUAL --
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TWO SHADE THREES AND TWO THREES AND SHRUBS THAT WOULD BE AT THE SIDE OF THE HOUSE, BACK OF HOUSE , AND PRINT THE HOUSE, SO THERE'S NEARLY EIGHT THREES AND 40 SHRUBS ON EACH INDIVIDUAL LOT . THOSE NUMBERS ARE EXCLUSIVE OF WHAT I'M GOING TO TALK TO ABOUT AN EVENT WHICH IS THE LANDSCAPE TRANSITION THAT WE ARE PROPOSIN BETWEEN THE NORTH AND EAST AND SOUTH PROPERTY LINE. A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT I WANTE TO FORECAST FOR YOU IN THE DISCUSSION, THERE WERE THREE REQUESTS BY STAFF WITH REGARD T PROJECT ARCHITECTURE.ONE IS ON ALL FOUR SIDES OF THE HOUSE STAFF WAS REQUESTING THAT THE SAME MATERIAL IS USED, THAT MATERIAL WHICH IS -- EXCUSE ME, ON THE SIDE ON THE REAR AND THE APPLICANT IS AGREEABLE TO THAT. STAFF ALSO WANTED TO SEE A MINIMUM OF TWO WINDOWS ON EACH ELEVATION ON EACH FLOOR SO A TOTAL OF FOUR 80 SIDE. THESE PLANS KNOCKS THAT OUT OF THE PARK SO NO PROBLEM THERE SO THE LAST PROBATION THAT STAFF HAD INQUIRED ABOUT WAS WITH REGARD TO PURCHASE.
THERE LIKE TO SEE AT LEAST 50% OF THE HOMES HAVE A FRONT PORCH AND THERE WAS A QUESTION THAT M HOMES HAD BECAUSE MI HOMES HAS AGREED TO THAT. STAFF HAD MENTIONED THAT THEY WANT TO SEE A 6-FOOT DEPTH AND MINIMUM 30 SQUARE FEET THE WAY THE ORDINANCE AND WE REVIEWED THAT AND IT WILL BE AND IT WILL BE SIX SQUARE FEET IN DEPTH AND 30 SQUARE FEET.
I WANT TO MAKE SURE IF YOU SEE THIS HOUSE HERE, THIS HOUSE HER HAS SOME COLUMNS AT THE FRONT FORWARD AND END OF THE PORCH WITH OUR RAILING PURPLE POINT UNDERSTAND THAT A COLUMN COULD ENCROACH INTO THAT SPACE BUT DO NOT GOING TO HAVE A COLUMN BLOCKING THE AREA YOU WOULD HAV SEEDING BUT IF THERE'S A COLUMN NEXT TO THE FRONT ENTRYWAY COME INTO BEING THAT SPACE, THAT COLUMN COULD BE WITHIN THAT 6- FOOT SPACE IN IN THE FORWARD AREA OF THE PORCH WITHOUT OUR RAILING COULD BE AT MINIMUM 6 FEET. AND FIND OUT WANT TO GO THROUGH WHAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION, SOME ADDITIONAL SLIDES THAT WE PUT TOGETHER. AS YOU RECALL THIS WAS THE EXHIBIT THAT WE PRESENTED AT TH PLANNING COMMISSION IDENTIFYING THE SPACE ALONG THE PERIMETER HERE, WHICH WOULD INCLUDE FOR EVERY HUNDRED FEET, TWO SHADE THREES AND THREE EVERGREEN THREES AND EIGHT SHRUBS AND IN WORKING WITH A LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT, THE LANDSCAPE % ARCHITECT BELIEVE THAT WOULD BE A SUITABLE AREA OF PLANNING ALONG THE EDGE OF THOSE LOTS IN THE ALLEYS THAT EXIST ALONG THE EAST AND SELL PERIMETER TODAY CAN YOU WILL SEE SOME PHOTOS THAT I SHARED WITH YOU AND THERE'S SOME AREAS WITH A CHAIN-LINK FENCE NOT ON THIS SITE BUT AND THERE ARE SOME AREAS ALONG THE PERIMETER BUT THERE IS NO FENCE AND NO THREES AT ALL.
ANY ADDITIONAL PLANTINGS THAT I DESCRIBED WOULD BE ABOVE AND BEYOND THAT YOU SEE HER TODAY. THERE IS AN EXISTING PROBATION AND A SHADE TREE OUT THERE, WHICH IS NOT MANY.
STILLED THE EVERGREENS AND THE SHRUBS WOULD BE ON TOP OF THAT BUT I MENTION THAT BECAUSE THOS ARE ALL PLANTINGS THAT ARE SEPARATE ON TOP OF WHAT I DESCRIBED AS LOT LANDSCAPING SEEK A HOME HOMEOWNER RESPONSIBLE FOR THE LANDSCAPING REQUIREMENTS AND THAT -- AND THE INSTALLATION OF THE PERIMETER PLANTINGS. AND WE WILL FORWARD THIS SLIDE TO STAFF AND MAKE SURE IT GETS CIRCULATED WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION. FIRST ALONG THE NORTH PERIMETER WE TOOK SOME PHOTOS AND IT'S DIFFICULT TO SEE HERE AND I APOLOGIZE BUT THIS IS A FENCE THAT EXTENDS FROM JUST EAST OF TOWN ROAD ROAD ALONG THE NORTH PERIMETER AT THE SITE.
YOU CAN SEE IT IN THE DISTANCE HERE AS WELL.
IN THE VERY CORNER, THE VERY NORTH, THE VERY NORTHEAST CORNE OF THE SITE, THIS IS THE CONDITION THAT EXISTS TODAY ALONG THE SHARED PROPERTY LINE AND THIS IS THAT FENCE.
IN THE BLACK CHAIN-LINK FENCE YOU SEE HERE IS A FENCE THAT I BELIEVE EXTENDS ALONG THE SOUTH GENERALLY AND FOR A PORTION OF THE WEST PERIMETER OF THE PARKING AREA.
JUST GOT A PLAYGROUND AREA I THINK THE OTHER PARAMETERS MIGH BE TREATED WITH THE METAL FENCE WROUGHT IRON APPEARANCE BUT TODAY THE CONDITION THAT EXISTS ALONG OUR SHARED PROPERTY LINE
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IS A BLACK CHAIN-LINK FENCE THA WE'VE GOT SOME OTHER ADDITIONAL PHOTOS TO SHOW YOU THE CONDITIO THAT EXISTS ALONG THE NORTH PERIMETER HERE. THE HOMES VISIBILITY LOOKING EAST FROM THE PROPERTY. THERE'S ANOTHER HOME THAT HAS A 6-FOOT TALL WOODEN FENCE BUT I THINK IT IS JUST BEHIND ONE LOT.IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT GOES COME AGAIN TO MISSES LONG A 50- FOOT SEGMENT ALONG THE BACKSIDE.
AND THEN YOU WILL SEE SOME OF THE EXISTING THREES ALONG THAT LINE AND OTHER AREAS THAT ARE OPEN TO THE SITE.
ALONG OUR SELL PERIMETER TODAY, ALONG THE SOUTH EDGE OF THE STOUT HOME IS, THERE IS A VERY MATURE LINEUP EVERGREEN THREES AND BOWS WILL BE PRESERVED. THOSE WON'T GO ANYWHERE.
THERE IS ALSO A FLOORBOARD FENC THAT YOU SEE HERE.
THAT FLOORBOARD FENCE RUNS THE ENTIRE LENGTH OF OUR SOUTH PERIMETER AND TURNS NORTH AND RUNS UP THROUGH APPROXIMATELY THE EDGE OF OUR COMMON AREA AND THAT FENCE WOULD BE MAINTAINED AND THE PLANTINGS THAT I DESCRIBED IN THAT AREA.
AND FINALLY THIS GOES BACK TO THE SITE PLAN.
THIS IS THE AREA OF THAT EXISTING CHAIN-LINK FENCE THIS IS THE AREA OF THE EXISTING FLOORBOARD FENCE.
THAT WOULD REMAIN. THE INTERVENING SPACE, THE NEW FENCE THAT IS IDENTIFIED HERE WOULD RUN ALONG OUR EAST PERIMETER AND OUR NORTH TIERED PERIMETER OF THE SITE AND AN EXAMPLE OF THAT FENCE, THAT NEW FENCE, SO THIS IS THE PROPOSED EVENT. WANT TO JUMP BACK TO THE OVERAL EXHIBIT THAT YOU SEE HERE, SO THAT WOULD EXTEND FROM THE EXISTING FLOORBOARD FENCE NORTH AND THAT UP ALONG THE NORTH PERIMETER BUT ALONG THE EAST PERIMETER AS WELL BUT WE DON'T WANT TO GET RID OF THE APPEARANCE OF THE FLOORBOARD FENCE TODAY BUT THAT IS PREDOMINATELY ALONG THE BACKSID OF THE EXISTING THREES THAT ARE THERE AND ALONG THE COMMON AREA BUT BEHIND INDIVIDUAL HOMEOWNER HOMES, WE WANT TO HAVE THIS METAL FENCE BECAUSE THAT WOULD BE A GOOD OPPORTUNITY IF THE HOMEOWNER SO CHOSE TO EXTEND THAT FENCE ALONG THEIR SIDE PROPERTY LINE AND HAVE A CONSISTENT APPEARANCE OR IS IT WOULD BE A BIT UNUSUAL TO HAVE THAT FLOORBOARD FARM FENCE THAT WOULD RUN ALONG THEIR INTERVENING PROPERTY LINES BETWEEN THE TWO HOME LOT. IT WOULDN'T CREATE A SITUATION IF SOMEBODY HAD DOGS TO KEEP TH DOG IN THE YARD.
THAT FLOORBOARD FENCE WOULD NOT ACHIEVE THAT.
I THINK THE TRANSITION TO THIS WROUGHT IRON STYLE FENCE IN THOSE AREAS AT THE BACKSIDE PRESENTS THAT OPPORTUNITY FOR SOMEBODY TO EXTEND THAT HERE ALONG THIS PROPERTY LINE BETWEE HOMES. AGAIN, BACK TO THE REQUEST THAT WAS MADE BY THE PETITIONER, THERE WAS CONCERN ABOUT TRESPAS INTO THE ALLEYS BUT I THINK THA WE HAVE ADDRESS THAT WITH THE INCLUSION OF THE FENCE AND THER WAS ALSO CONCERNED ABOUT PLANT MATERIALS, NOT ONLY INDIVIDUAL LOTS BUT ALONG THE TRANSITION AREAS AND WE'VE DESCRIBE FOR YO WHAT IS REQUIRED FOR LANDSCAPIN AND THEN ALSO INDICATED THAT THOSE FIVE THREES ARE GOING TO SUPPLEMENT THAT FENCE AND THE EXISTING -- ANY EXISTING LANDSCAPING WHICH IS SPARSE ALONG THOSE TWO PROPERTY LINES TODAY. WITH THAT I'M GOING TO INTRODUC ALEX MARSH WITH STUDIO M AND HE'S GOING TO WALK YOU THROUGH
THEIR ARCHITECTURAL PLANS. >> GOOD EVENING, POKE.
ALEX MARSH WITH STUDIO M. I WANTED TO RUN THROUGH OUR EXHIBIT SHOWING AND CONCEPTUAL RENDERINGS THAT SHOW THE FRONT, REAR, AND SIDE ELEVATIONS OF OU HOMES.
WORKING WITH THE PETITIONER, WE KIND OF TAKEN THE FLOOR PLANS O THE DESIRED PRODUCTS AND RUN THEM THROUGH AND CREATED MODELS SO THESE ARE JUST A MODEL BUT THEY ARE ACTUALLY EXISTING, NOT JUST A RENDERING OR WHATEVER. SO WE'VE GOT SOME ALIGNMENT TO BE AND GET A MORE CONSISTENT LOOK BACK ON THROUGHOUT THE
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EXAMPLES. AND LOOKING THROUGH MATERIALS AND SIDING, THE MASONARY BASE THROUGHOUT ALL FOUR SIDES OF TH BUILDINGS AND HOUSES. SO SHOWING WHERE WE CAN COME EXAMPLES OF A MORE UNIFIED LOOK THINGS THAT MIGHT COMPLEMENT EACH OTHER MORE AS A NEIGHBORHOOD GROWS AND DEVELOPS.HERE WE SEE OFFERING THE OPTION BETWEEN TWO HOMES.
EVEN IF IT'S A SMALLER ONE STORY , WE ARE TRYING TO -- SYMMETRY APPOSITION AND THE MOR REFINED PALLET APPROACH TO BE A NICE AND INVITING NEIGHBORHOOD. THESE OFTEN HIGHLIGHT THE ADDITION OF A PORCH WHERE WE WERE SHOWING SMALLER FUNDS.
WE'VE LENGTHENED WHERE WE CAN AND CREATE THOSE ENTRY SPACES.
ONE OF THE COMMENTS THAT WERE RECEIVED AT THE TIME OF THE PUBLIC HEARING, THE DESIGN REQUIREMENTS AND ARCHITECTURE FOR THE BUILDING, ONE OF THE ITEMS THAT IS EXHIBIT -- AND THE PATTERN FOR THOSE ARCHITECTURAL STANDARDS, WITH THE GUIDELINES THAT ARE APPLICABLE WITHIN THE VILLAGE WEST TODAY. SO YOU SEE IF YOU SIT SIDE-BY-SIDE SIDE-BY-SIDE IN UTRECHT ARCHITECTURAL REQUIREMENTS THAT ARE ESTABLISHED FOR HOME CONSTRUCTION WITHIN THE VILLAGE OUR STANDARDS TRACK THOSE STANDARDS AND I THINK IN TERMS OF WHAT THE STAFF IS ASKED FOR ON ALL FOUR SIDES AS WELL AS TH WINDOW COUNT PROVISIONS.
SO I THINK THERE WAS A COMMENT THAT FOLKS MAY NOT WANT TO SEE THE UNDERLYING ARCHITECTURE WITHIN THE SITE.
I CAN ASSURE THE PLANNING COMMISSION THAT THE STANDARDS THAT ARE PLACED ARE SIGNIFICANT IN THE HOME DESIGN REQUIREMENTS ON TRACK, THOSE WITH THOSE THOS ARE ADOPTED BY GUIDELINES.
SO THOSE IN FORCE ACTIVITY WITHIN THE VILLAGE TODAY WITH GUIDELINES THAT ARE ADOPTED AND ADMINISTERED BY THE HOA.
IN THIS SITUATION WHERE INCLUDING THOSE AND THE ARCHITECTURAL DEVELOPMENT IN TH PD SO THERE ARE VARIANCES THAT COULD BE ADOPTED THAT WOULD CHANGE THESE WITH SPECIFIC STANDARDS THAT WOULD BE APPLICABLE FOR CONSTRUCTION, FO HOME CONSTRUCTION ON THE SITE. SO IT'S NOT A QUESTION OF THE CITY RELINQUISHING S AUTHORITY OR ORDINANCE THAT IT MAY ADAPT TO A SEPARATE BOARD. IT WOULD BE IF THERE IS A CHANG TO COME TO THAT, IT WOULD HAVE TO COME BACK TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND THE CITY COUNCIL FOR ADOPTION TO THOSE PARTICULA STANDARDS. SO WITH THAT I'LL CONCLUDE AND GLAD TO ADDRESS ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.
>> THANK YOU, JOHN. >> THANK YOU.
FOR THE RECORD, ALEXIA LÓPEZ. YOU'VE DRESSED ADDRESS SOME OF OUR INITIAL COMMENTS AND WERE STILL REVIEWING BUT WE NEED TO REVIEW TO SHOW THOSE CHANGES. SOME OF OUR OUTSTANDING COMMENT THAT WEREN'T MENTIONED IN THE ORIGINAL STAFF REPORT INCLUDE ADDRESSING THOSE ARCHITECTURAL COMMENTS BID THEY COMMITTED TO SOME OF THOSE THINK THEY WILL D -- THIRTY SQUARE FEET. AND THEY HAVE SHADE THREES AND WE JUST NEED TO SEE THE STANDARDS WRITTEN INTO THE PUD TO CONFIRM THAT. THEY HAVE -- THEY ARE ATTEMPTING TO ADDRESS THE CONNECTION TO THE ROUNDABOU AND WERE GRATEFUL TO SEE THAT. NOW THERE WILL BE TWO POINTS OF
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ENTRY INTO THIS NEIGHBORHOOD AN THAT IS REQUIRED FOR ANYTHING OVER 15 LOTS LOT SO WE ARE THANKFUL FOR THEM TO DOING THAT.THEY HAVE INCREASED THE AMOUNT OF OPEN SPACE AND THE COMMON AREA SPACE BY 25%. I BELIEVE THEY ARE STILL RETAINING SOME OF THE STANDARDS TO DEFINE THAT OPEN SPACE, HAVING SPACE AROUND THE POND AN THE PERIMETER LANDSCAPING TO 50 AND THEY SHOWN THAT ON THEIR OPEN SPACE PLAN AND THEN THERE' OTHER SIMILAR COMMON AREAS THAT MIGHT NOT NEED THAT REQUIREMENT IN THE OPEN SPACE. WERE HOPING THEY CAN TAKE A LOO AT THAT AND THOSE SPACES CAN BECOME A LITTLE LARGER.
YET, SOMEHOW ADDRESS THAT AND I WOULD LOOK BETTER.
THEY SAY THEY'RE GOING TO ADD A PLAYGROUND AREA SO I THINK THAT WILL HELP -- AND WE MENTIONED TO THEM ABOUT POTENTIALLY HAVING A PATH AROUN THAT POND PAID ONE OF THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS TO HAVE A PATH CONNECTION ALL THE WAY FRO THAT ROUNDABOUT TO THE SOUTHEAS CORNER OF THE PARCEL. THAT COULD BE CULMINATED ON THE STREET AND SAID OF THE SIDEWALK OR MAYBE IT COULD GO THROUGH THAT ESSENTIAL COMMON AREA TO THE SOUTHEAST CORNER.
A COUPLE OTHER THINGS ONE THING WE WOULD LIKE THERE WAS DEDICATION AROUND THE SOUTHEAST CORNER SO THAT IS ALSO IN OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND THAT HAS BEEN THERE FOR YEARS, KIND OF SHOWING THE CONNECTION THAT WOULD GO FROM THE ROUNDABOUT THROUGH THIS SITE TO THE SOUTHEAST.
YOU CAN SEE ON THAT. JUST MAY BE SHIFTING THAT YOU CAN SEE THE ROUNDABOUT THAT IS EXISTING SO TO THE EASE THERE'S RIGHT-OF-WAY SO THE GOAL WOULD BE TO HAVE THE CONNECTION TO TH OTHER NEIGHBORHOOD AND THIS IS SOMETHING AND IT WOULD CONNECT ONE NEIGHBORHOOD TO ANOTHER IN FRED'S.
AS WELL AS PROVIDE RESIDENTS WITH MULTIPLE TRAVEL OPTIONS AN PROVIDES OPTIONS FOR MAY BE PEOPLE VISITING NEIGHBORS.
AND ANOTHER COMMENT THAT MADE WAS THIRST WE CHOSE A ONE-STORY HOME. FIRST FLOOR LIVING, PEOPLE THAT WANT TO DOWNSIZE MAYBE THEY CAN MAKE THAT A REQUIREMENT TO KEEP THAT CERTAIN NUMBER IN THOSE HOMES.
AT THIS TIME WE WOULD RECOMMEND THE PLANNING COMMISSION COMMITTEE DISCUSSED THIS IN SEVEN TO THE NEXT COMMITTEE MEETING WHICH WILL LIKELY BE ON THURSDAY.
>> THANKS, ALEXIA. ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS OR
CONCERNS? >> GIANNIS KATA COMMENT.
THE APPLICANT IS NOT AGREEABLE TO DEDICATE THE RIGHT-OF-WAY.
THIS IS WHAT STAFF PREPARED AND THEY'VE ASKED FOR.
WE DON'T FAULT THEM FOR THAT. THE PLAN IS A POLICY DOCUMENT ADOPTED BY THE COUNCIL I WOULD LIKE COMMISSION RECOMMENDATIONS THAT IT DOESN'T PROVIDE FOR THE DEDICATION AND COUNCIL DETERMINES THIS CONNECTION IS IMPORTANT.
AND HE WILL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO RESPOND TO WE KNOW FOR COMMUNICATION OF COUNCIL HAS RECEIVED A NEIGHBOR THIRST IN THE SAME NEIGHBORHOOD GIVE THIS A LOT OF STREETS THAT DON'T CONNECT. AND WE ALSO RECEIVED AND THEY WOULD NOT WANT TO SEE THE YOUTH IF THE COUNCIL DECIDES TO CHANG THE POLICY AT SHOW THIS COMMISSION, THEN WE WILL PROVIDED BY RANE SURE THAT I KNOW THAT THE EXECUTIVE
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DIRECTORS HERE AND SOME OTHER RESIDENTS WE UNDERSTAND THAT.IS A POLICY ISSUE AND YOU WANT TO SEE IF THIS CONNECTION MADE BETWEEN THE TWO DEVELOPMENTS. IS NOT A THAT SAFFORD ASKED FOR
THAT I DESCRIBED EARLIER. >> THANK YOU, JOHN.
AND WE WILL OPEN IT UP. TERESA?
>> ONE QUESTION TO START OUT VERY HOW MANY ARE WE THINKING.
>> THERE WILL BE AT LEAST 2-FOR FLOOR PLANS FOR SINGLE-STORY HOMES WITH THOSE AND SHOW UP IS THERE REALLY WANT TO SINGLE-STORY HOUSE AND IN TERMS OF SINGLE GIVING COVER ALL OF THE END THEY HAVE A BATHROOM ON THE FIRST LEVEL SO ALL THE DIFFERENT FUNDS THAT HAVE OFFICES ARE THIRST AND I HAVE S REALLY HE'S BACKING UP HER AND WANT TO HAVE RESOURCES FOR ALL THE THROUGH AND I CAN DEVELOP THAT ON EACH AND EVERY LOT IF I SO CHOOSE. WE DON'T WANT HAVE A SITUATION WHERE WERE GOING TO RESTRICT TH MARKET.
EMILY SELLING USED SEVERAL STOR HOUSES RATHER THAN TWO-STORY OPTION EVEN THOUGH THIS AND BOT GROWS NORTH WARS WITH THE HOUSE FOR -- TREE TERESA, ARE YOU ASKING BECAUSE OF THE EVENT, THE SINGLE-STORY IS THE LEAST ATTRACTIVE OF THE ONES THAT WE ARE SHOWING TODAY, IN MY OPINION
I ALSO THINK THERE IS A NEED FO THE ONE-STORY HOMES.
>> DUBBIE BUCKLER. >> I GUESS ABOUT AN ADD ON TO WHAT JOHN JUST SAID AND TO GET WHAT TERESA IS GETTING AT.
WHAT I HEAR IS PEOPLE WHO WANT TO DOWNSIZE, THEY WANT A BEDROO ON THE FIRST FLOOR, MASTER BEDROOM, MASTER BATHROOM FIRST FLOOR. I DON'T THINK OUR REQUIRE A SEARCH OR PERCENTAGE OF SINGLE-STORY HOMES.
THE ANSWER IS PROVIDING THE OPTION FOR ANY HOME FOR THE MASTER BEDROOM SWEET. I THINK THAT ADDRESSES WHAT I HEAR AS THE MAIN CONCERN. I HAVE TO ECHO THE DESIGNS ARE SOMEWHAT IMPROVED BUT I THINK I COULD BE MORE IMPROVED AND I DO AGREE, ESPECIALLY SOME OF THE SITES IN THE BACKSTRETCH IS VER PLAIN LOOKING. ONE OF THE LETTERS THAT CAUGHT MY ATTENTION THAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE DEVELOPERS TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION IS, AND YOU HAVE ALLUDED TO IT A COUPLE OF TIMES.
THERE IS THE STANDARDS THAT EXISTS WITHIN CITY CODE AND THE THERE WERE THE STANDARDS THAT WERE ADOPTED INTO THE EFFECT POSSIBLE I THINK THAT PUD FOR THIS DEVELOPMENT NEEDS TO AS CLOSELY AS POSSIBLE NEAR THE STANDARDS OF THE SURROUNDING
NEIGHBORHOODS. >> ARCHITECTURALLY.
>> ARCHITECTURALLY. AND I APPLAUDED YOUR LAST TYPE AND I CONTINUED THE APPLAUSE BU I THINK IT IS A GREAT IMPROVEMENT THAT YOU HAVE REDUCED THE NUMBER OF HOMES AND YOU'VE INCREASED THE LOT SIZES ON THE LOT SIZES FOR THE RECORD ARE -- SO THAT IS A SIGNIFICANT IMPROVEMENT IN THE ARCHITECTURA STANDARDS NEED TO BE REVISITED AGAIN TO BE MORE CONSISTENT WIT WHAT THE STANDARDS FOR THE
VILLAGE WESTWARD LIKE. >> I WOULD SINCERELY LIKE TO
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ADDRESS AND CONTINUE THIS EFFOR WHERE WE HAVE CONCERN ABOUT OPPORTUNITIES AND FOLKS CAN DOWNSIZE IN THE COMMUNITY.I THINK THAT IS MORE OF A PUBLI RELATIONS ISSUE THAT MI HOMES CAN ADDRESS WITH THE HELP OF CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS AND MEMBER OF THE HOUSING COMMISSION TO REACH OUT TO THOSE FOLKS THAT ARE IN THAT CAMP AND THEY HAVE DESIRE TO SEE THAT OFFERED TO THE COMMUNITY. IF THERE'S THAT GROUNDSWELL.
IF THERE IS THAT MASS OF FOLKS THAT ARE OUT THERE, MI HOMES WH IS IN THE BUSINESS OF BUILDING HOMES WANT TO BUY HOMES, I WANT THIS GROUND-LEVEL LIVING WHETHE IT'S A TWO-STORY HOME OR SINGLE-STORY LIVING, THEY ARE GOING TO BE ABLE TO RESPOND TO THAT SO MY RESPONSES WE ARE GOING TO REACH OUT TO FOLKS ON THAT COMMISSION ARE OTHERS IN THE CITY AND SEE WHAT KIND OF OUTREACH WE CAN DO IN THE COMMUNITY IF THE PLAN WERE TO B APPROVED AND TO ADDRESS THE OPPORTUNITIES THAT EXIST AND MAKE SURE THAT FOLKS IN CARMEL KNOW ABOUT THAT OPPORTUNITY.
WE ARE NOT GOING TO LEGISLATE ONLY FOLKS IN CARMEL HE CAN BUY THE HOUSES HERE. WE CAN CERTAINLY MESSAGE AND MEET WITH THOSE INDIVIDUAL GROUPS LET THEM KNOW THAT THAT PRODUCT IS AVAILABLE AND THAT THERE IS AN AWARENESS OF THAT
WHEN IT COMES TO MARKET. >> REGARDING THE CONNECTION TO THE ROUNDABOUT TO THAT ONE. WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING COMPARABLE TO THAT. I KNOW, HELP ME REMEMBER THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT WE NOT TOO LONG AGO -- ON EAST. CLAY CORNER?
>> THAT DOESN'T SOUND RIGHT P-LETTER OR WHERE THE TO -- WHERE THE TWO NEIGHBORHOODS WER NOT CONNECTED AND BASICALLY THE
WERE GRANDFATHERING IN -- >> THAT WAS 116TH STREET.
IT FINALLY SNAPPED. SO BELLE MEADE AND BASICALLY WE GRANDFATHERED THEM IN. OUR RECOMMENDATION WAS TO GRANDFATHERING THAT THERE NOT B A CONNECTION EVEN THOUGH -- AND WE CLEARLY UNDERSTAND BY TH CITY WANTS IT AND REQUIRES THAT AND WE CLEARLY UNDERSTAND WHY NEIGHBORHOODS DON'T WANT IT.
IT'S NOT THE SAME SITUATION HER BUT IF OVERWHELMINGLY THE NEIGHBOR IN THE ADJACENT NEIGHBORHOOD DOESN'T WANT IT, M OPINION IS ON THE TABLE AND I WOULD BE FINE NOT REQUIRING IT AND LET THE COUNCIL HANDLE THAT DECISION.
TAKE THAT UP AS TO WHETHER OR NOT THIS ACTIVITY THERE ARE NOT.
>> ANOTHER THING IS THE PLAN CALLED FOR THE EXTENSION OF THIRD AVENUE FROM CARMEL DRIVE SOUTH DOWN 2,116TH STREET AND THAT WOULD HAVE TRAVERSED THAT PARCEL.
AFTER DISCUSSIONS WITH ENGINEERING, THE PLAN TO MOVE FORWARD WITHOUT THAT BEING A LEGAL REQUIREMENT IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE PLAN NOT BEING A REQUIREMENT IN THE APPLICATION OF THAT, IT'S COMPLETELY DIFFERENT FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAN THE PLANNING COMMISSION SOUGHT WITH A CONNECTION BETWEEN THE TWO NEIGHBORHOODS BUT AGAIN, IT IS A POLICY AT THE POLICY IDENTIFIED A STREET THAT WOULD CONNECT THIRD AVENUE WHERE TO EXIST TODAY AND FOLLOW CARMEL DRIVE AND THEN THAT PARCEL THAT YOU BROUGHT UP TO 116TH STREET AND THE DECISION WAS MADE THAT THE PLAN SHOULD ADVANCE FORWARD. IN LIGHT OF THE FAIRFIELD PLAN.
WE WEREN'T INVOLVED IN THAT PLAN .
>> YOU PROBABLY PROVIDE A LITTL MORE HISTORY ON HOW NOT TO CONNECT. IS THAT A-IS THE MESSAGE THAT WE'VE HEARD MORE TIMES THAT I CAN COUNT OVER 32 DIFFERENT POSITIONS THROUGHOUT THE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS THAT REACH THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND OUTREACH THE PLANNING COMMISSION . AT AS SOMETHING LIKELY THINK TH COUNCIL SHOULD TAKE UP AS A POLICY MATTER AND MI HOMES IS POSITION IS WE ARE GOING TO BE IN AGREEMENT WITH THE NEIGHBORS.
WE ARE ALSO GOING TO BE GOOD LISTENERS AND WE ARE GOING TO LISTEN TO SUGGESTIONS OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND LISTEN TO THE WELL OF THE COUNCIL BECAUSE ULTIMATELY IT IS THEIR
DECISION. >> TERESA, ANY THOUGHTS ON THAT? I THINK THAT CONNECTIVITY IS IMPORTANT FOR SURE.
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WE'VE HEARD A LOT ABOUT EVERYTHING AND I THINK THIS WOULD HELP AND THERE'S A LOT OF COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT OF THE LOCAL BUSINESSES THE CONNECTIVITY.DOES THE PATH GO BY THE FENCE THAT WHICH IS GOING TO BE
CREATED. >> IF THERE WERE RECEIVING PATH
CONSTRUCTED. >> THE PLAN RIGHT NOW IS TO RUN
IT RIGHT INTO THE FENCE. >> TERMINATED AND A A COMMON AREA, RIGHT. AND I THINK WE SHOULD PROBABLY CREATE SOME KIND OF APPROPRIATE TERMINATION TO IT, JUST A BARRICADE WITH A SIGN UP. AND IF THERE'S NOT A RECEIVING WALK, IT TERMINATES ON THE SIDE DO YOU SAY PRIVATE PROPERTY ON THIS POINT. THAT'S A CONCERN THAT IS MENTIONED I DON'T NOT WANT TO SPEAK TO ANY ONE INDIVIDUAL OR BOARD OR ANYBODY ELSE BUT THIS IS WHAT HAS HAS BEEN ASKED OF OUR CLIENT AND HAVE AGREED TO. I THINKS IF IT'S NOT GOING TO CONNECT, THEN IT WOULDN'T BE RECEIVED IF APPROPRIATE.
>> DOES ANYONE KNOW OF A ROUNDABOUT THAT IS -- IS THERE ONE THAT HAS A CONNECTION POINT?
>> THERE IS NORTH AND WEST. I DID NOT KNOW IF THAT WAS ENOUGH -- THEY WRESTLE FOR ADDITIONAL DETAILS THAT THEY CAN CONFIRM. IF THEY COME BACK IN THE DEPARTURE FEELS LIKE THERE'S SOME CONDITIONS THAT DO EXIST THAT DON'T MAKE THAT VIABLE, WE WILL FOLLOW THE DIRECTIONS ON
THAT. >> I SPOKE WITH ENGINEERING EARLIER TODAY AND THEY DO HAVE QUESTION ABOUT THE WIDTH OF THE STREET SO I THINK IT CALLS FOR 14-FOOT.
>> THAT IS NOT A PROBLEM. AND THEN WE'LL TAKE THE ADDITIONAL FOR THE RETAKE UPON THE OTHER THE OTHER SIDE OF THAT . THAT'S ANOTHER CONUNDRUM.
AND THE CITY CODE WAS SENT BY A ANOTHER WATERFALL THAT 6-FOOT SECTION OF THE CROSSWALK. THESE LOTS ARE BIG PAGE YOU'VE GOT A 40 PLUS FOOT DRIVEWAY YOU'VE GOT PLENTY OF PLACES TO PARK VEHICLES SO WE DON'T NEED OFF-LINE PARKING.
IF THERE WAS A SITUATION, THE ENGINEER ALSO SUGGESTED THAT THEY CHIMED OUT THE INTERCEPTION .
THERE GOING TO HAVE A ROUNDABOU SO IT SHORTENS THE DISTANCE ACROSS THE CROSSWALK. THAT IS THE ADDITIONAL SPACE TH NEIGHBORHOOD IS SO SMALL. LET'S STOP IN FRONT OF THE PLAYGROUND TO HAVE THE KIDS PLAY .
WE ARE GOING TO FOLLOW THE CITY 'S DIRECTION.
>> BEFORE I MOVED TO JEFF, I'M GOING TO SAY I AGREE WITH MOVIN FORWARD WITH CONNECTIVITY. I THINK JEFF HAS A COUPLE OTHER
COMMENTS. >> I WOULD ECHO THAT SENTIMENT.
IT MAY NOT BE THE MOST POPULAR FOR THE FOLKS THAT LOVE THE VILLAGE BUT YOU LOOK AROUND WES CARMEL AND THERE'S NEIGHBORHOOD AFTER NEIGHBORHOOD THAT ALLOWS FOR PEDESTRIAN OPPORTUNITIES.
THE AVOIDANCE OF, HEY, I WANT T GO TO THAT HOUSE THAT I SEE RIGHT UP MY BACK TURN I HAVE TO MAKE THREE LEFT TURNS TO GET THERE BECAUSE YOU GOTTA GO BACK OUT ON THE MAIN ROAD AND THE ADDITIONAL CONNECTIONS FOR EMERGENCY SERVICES IS CERTAINLY A BENEFIT. I JUST SEE TIME AND TIME AGAIN WE'VE GOT A GREAT NEIGHBORHOOD AFTER GREAT NEIGHBORHOOD AFTER GREAT NEIGHBORHOOD RIGHT NEXT T EACH OTHER AND THEY CONNECT WIT ONE ANOTHER SO I THINK THAT IS CERTAINLY AN IMPORTANT PIECE.
I GUESS I WILL OFFER A DEAL LIK THE TO THE ROUNDABOUT SO I CONTINUED TO ENCOURAGE YOU TO WORK WITH ENGINEERING SO THAT THE FOURTH LAKE LIKE I HAVE 16 AND TOWN ROAD ROUNDABOUT IS CONFIGURED RIGHT AND LOOKS RIGH AND HAS GOOD SAFE ACCESS AGAIN.
JUST THAT KIND OF ADDITIONAL EGRESS SO FOLKS CAN GET IN AND OUT AND MAKE SURE THEY MAKE THE RIGHT CONNECTIONS.
ROAD CONNECTION, PATH CONNECTIO GOOD BIT I THINK THE
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NEIGHBORHOOD CONNECTIVITY WITH REGARDS TO THE VILLAGE, I KNOW THERE ARE CONCERNS ABOUT THE SNEAK OVER AND USE OUR AMENITIES . AND I AM APPRECIATIVE OF THE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION THAT YOU PROVIDED AND THE OTHER ADDITIONAL OPPORTUNITIES IN THI NEIGHBORHOOD.I LIVE ON THE WEST SIDE OF CARMEL NEAR TH VILLAGE LIKE THIS BUT I GO TO THE VILLAGE BECAUSE I WANT TO EAT OR HAVE A DRINK OR I WANT TO GO SEE A FRIEND SO THESE OPPORTUNITIES FOR CONNECTIVITY ARE IMPORTANT FOR FOLKS WHO NEED TO DRIVE THERE. MAYBE THEY CAN DO IT THAT WAY AND THOSE FOLKS YOU MIGHT NEED- MIGHT BE NEARBY AND THEY CAN HAVE TANGIBLE AND DIRECT AN INDIRECT BENEFITS.
>> WE CAN SHOW THE PLANNING COMMISSION WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE ON THE SOUTH AREA SOUTH OF THE POND.
BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY REALIZES IS IN THE ILLUSTRATION, THE RIGHT-OF-WAY DOESN'T EXIST ON THE ADJACENT PROPERTY. IT IS ABOUT RIGHT THERE.
SOLD THIS AREA HERE IS ALL COMMON AREA WITHIN THE VILLAGE OF WESTLAKE TODAY SO WE CAN DEDICATE THAT SPACE.
IT'S POSSIBLE FOR MI HOMES TO DEDICATE THE SPACE THAT WAS ASKED FOR. WE WANTED TO GET YOUR FEEDBACK ON THE COUNCIL FEEDBACK BEFORE DECISION WOULD BE MADE BUT IT WOULD REQUIRE THE CITIES INVESTMENT AND ACQUISITION OF RIGHT-OF-WAY TO ACCOMPLISH THE CONNECTION AT A FUTURE DATE AND THAT IS WHY IT IS AN IMPORTANT ISSUE FOR THE COUNCIL TO WEIGH IN ON BECAUSE OF PUBLIC RESOURCES THAT WOULD BE EXPENDE
TO ACCOMMODATE THE CONNECTION. >> I APPRECIATE THAT I CERTAINL UNDERSTAND IF YOU DEDICATED RIGHT-OF-WAY AND IF THERE WAS SOME GOAL OF A CONNECTION THAT THIS MISSING PIECES, I TOTALLY
GET THAT. >> I'M NOT ADVOCATING AGAINST IT
I APPRECIATE THE INFO. ONE OF THE THOUGHT I DID HAVE A NO I AM FORGETTING IT. I GUESS ONE THING, I'M PROBABLY NOT THE BEST -- I GUESS I WOULD STRONGLY ENCOURAGE SINCE THE VILLAGE ITSELF WRAPS THREE SIDES AROUND THIS, JUST IF THERE IS BETTER MIMICKING ARCHITECTURES SO THAT MATERIAL TYPES, SIZE, SHAPE, WHICH IS NOT MY EXPERTISE.
IT CAN JUST BE BEST BLENDED, I GUESS FROM ONE NEIGHBORHOOD TO
THE NEXT. >> WE WILL ASK MI HOMES TO GO TAKE SOME PHOTOS OF DESIGN FEATURES OF HOUSES AND SEE HOW THEY MAY MIGHT BE INCORPORATED INTO THE DESIGN THERE IS A LOT OF OTHER THINGS GOING BACK TO THE PLAN COMMISSION.
ONE ITEM, I APOLOGIZE, WE ALSO SUBMITTED THIS TO STAFF WHICH ARE PARENTAL RESTRICTIONS. THE PLANNING COMMISSION IN THE PAST -- THIS IS A BIT DIFFERENT.
WERE AT 1.1 TO $1.3 MILLION PRICE POINT BUT I DON'T THINK W WILL HAVE A LOT OF RENTAL ISSUE BUT THIS IS RENTAL RESTRICTIONS OF THE PROHIBITION AGAINST THAT WHICH HAS BEEN ASKED FOR IN THE PAST BY COUNCIL AND THOSE ARE O FOUL AS PART OF A PETITION.
>> THANK YOU, JOHN. >> OUR PARKS EXPERT HERE, IS THERE ANYTHING THAT WE SHOULD B THINKING ABOUT IN TERMS OF THE PLAYGROUND? I JUST DON'T KNOW WHAT I DON'T
KNOW? >> I WOULD SAY JUMPING IN BECAUSE I WAS GOING TO SAY IT ANYWAY.
A LITTLE MORE DETAIL ON WHAT THIS PLAYGROUND IS GOING TO BE AND THE SHELTER BUT ALSO TO ADD SOME BIKE RACKS THERE JUST MAKE SURE THEY ARE INCLUDED. IT'S ALL YOURS.
>> I AGREE WITH YOU. I CERTAINLY APPRECIATE THE ADDITION UP THE QUALITY OF LIFE AMENITIES.
I AGREE PUT A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL WOULD BE HELPFUL.
I AGREE WITH MY COLLEAGUES IN TERMS OF CONNECTIVITY AT I LIKE THE CONNECTION OF TOWN ROAD AT THE ROUNDABOUT.
I AM CONCERNED ABOUT THE LITTLE CUL-DE-SAC TO THE SOUTH I DON'T NECESSARILY THINK THAT IS THE BEST DESIGN JUST TO HAVE FIVE
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HOUSES ON A CUL-DE-SAC IT FEELS DISCONNECTED FROM THE REST OFTHE NEIGHBORHOOD. >> YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT THIS
YEAR. >> I KNOW THERE IS EXAMPLES OF CUL-DE-SACS IN CARMEL WHERE THA HAS HAPPENED I JUST DON'T THINK IT IS THE BEST DESIGN. WE'VE GOT EXTRA SPACE AND WE DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO WITH IT S WE ARE GOING TO GET MORE LOTS OUT OF THERE. IN TERMS OF BACK TO JESS'S QUESTION BUT I APPRECIATE THE INPUT ABOUT THE PLAYGROUND AT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT BE SOMETHING A LITTLE MORE SIGNIFICANT THAN JUST A TINKER TOY TYPE PLAYGROUND.
I DEFINITELY APPRECIATE THE FAC THAT YOU ARE MAKING AN ATTEMPT
TO PROVIDE THAT. >> ANYBODY ON THE COMMISSION
THINKS -- >> I CAN SEND IT TO YOU.
>> IF YOU CAN PUSH IT TO ME, I WILL HAVE OUR CLIENT LOOK AT IT.
>> I'M SORRY. A WALKING PATH AROUND THAT POND IS BEING CONSIDERED? IS THAT CORRECT?
TO THE SOUTHEAST? >> IT WAS CONTEMPLATED.
THE PATH THAT I WAS SPEAKING OF IS A PATH THAT WOULD TAKE YOU FROM THE INDUSTRY AND THEN DOWN COME TO CONNECT THE TWO NEIGHBORHOODS THROUGH THAT SPAC BUT IF YOU ARE SAYING IF ALONG HERE WE HAVE SIDEWALK AND WE PULL UP A PATH ALONG HERE TO MAKE A LOOP, THAT MAY BE BENEFICIAL BECAUSE THAT POTENTIALLY THERE WOULD NOT BE DEAD END, IF YOU WILL.
ONE MORE. THERE WERE SOME CONCERNS ABOUT
THE 80 RENTALS. >> THAT DON'T EXIST.
>> OKAY. >> THEY DON'T EXIST BUT I CAN'T EXPLAIN IT MORE ACCURATELY. THEY'RE NOT ALLOWED AND THEY AR NOT REQUESTED AND THERE MUST BE A MISUNDERTANDING IN THE ORDINANCE. EACH HOUSE OR EACH LOT WOULD ACCOMMODATE ONE SINGLE-FAMILY HOME.
>> THE ARCHITECTURAL STANDARDS, I KNOW WE TALKED LAST TIME AND THE HOMELESS ARE AT A HIGHER LEVEL AND YOU WERE GOING TO COM WITH SOME PICTURES, SO IDEAS. DID YOU BRING ANY OF THAT
DID EVERYONE RECEIVE THAT TRANSMITTAL FROM THE APPLICANT FOR THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS? IT SHOULD'VE BEEN AN E-MAIL THA
WENT OUT TO STAFF. >> IF IT WAS, I CAN GO BACK.
>> I CAN BRING IT TO THE NEXT MEETING.
>> I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE STANDARDS BECAUSE THAT IS A HUG CONCERN AND THESE DRAWINGS THAT YOU HAVE TONIGHT I DON'T THINK ARE SUFFICIENT. JUST LOOKING AT SOME HOMES IN THE VILLAGE LIKE WAS SUGGESTED THINK THESE WOULD BE COMPARABLE I WOULD LIKE TO SEE MORE MASONR ON SOME OF THESE FOR MORE DIVERSITY IF NOTHING ELSE OR AR ALL JUST GOING TO BE WRAPPED AT
THE BOTTOM? >> NO, THERE WOULD BE MORE MASONRY. AND IF A CLIENT SO, THEY COULD
HAVE -- >> THIS IS WHAT I WANT TO KNOW.
>> WOULD WANT TO SAY HERE IS TH BASE.
IT WRAPS ALL FOUR SIDES. IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT'S ONLY GOING TO BE THAT. IT COULD BE MORE BASED UPON THE
CHOICES OF THE HOMEBUYER. >> THE HOMEOWNER DRIVES THAT.
>> ABSOLUTELY. I DON'T KNOW BECAUSE I'M NOT
THAT FAMILIAR. >> I CAN SHOW THE PLANNING COMMISSION ABOUT THE BASES SO I DON'T COME BACK LATER AND SAY YOU SHOWED US THE FULL BRICK HOUSE AND YOU DIDN'T BUILD ANY.
>> NONETHELESS, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE EVERYBODY HAVE ACCESS TO SE WHAT YOU CAN BUILD BECAUSE THERE'S JUST A LOT OF CONCERN O THAT. CAN YOU HELP ME UNDERSTAND BECAUSE I KNOW LAST TIME CHRISTINE SAID THAT SHE PUT LIK TO SEE MORE BUFFER ON THE ALLEYS .
SO IF SOMEBODY LIVED ON THE EAS SIDE AND THEY ARE LOOKING WEST, A LITTLE BIT WENT OVER TONIGHT BUT CAN YOU GIVE US AN IDEA AGAIN OF WHERE THAT WILL BE IN THEIR BACKYARD.
>> START TODAY FOR THE RESIDENT THAT LIVE ON THE SOUTH EDGE
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RIGHT HERE, THIS WILL BE MAINTAINED AND THAT WILL BE THERE A FEW AND THE INCLUSION O THE FENCES THERE.>> THAT IS ON YOUR PROPERTY. >> THAT IS OUR SIDE.
EVERYTHING I'M GOING TO TALK ABOUT IS ON OUR SIDE WITH THE EXCEPTION OF SOME FENCE ROW THREES ON THAT ONE BOARD BENT THAT I SHOWED YOU. THERE'S NOTHING ON THOSE PROPERTIES. SOMEONE FROM THE PUBLIC HAD PRESENT THE PHOTO. IT'S AN ALLEY, THE GRASS STRIP, AND ABOUT 2-BY PETE WHITE AND US , NOT US BUT THE EXISTING PROPERTY. SO HERE ALONG THE SOUTH EDGE EXISTING EVERGREEN THREES AND FENCE, ALONG THE COMMON AREA THERE WILL BE THE MAINTENANCE O THIS EXISTING FENCE AND THE SEPARATION OF THE POND AND ALON THIS PRINTER THERE WILL BE EXISTING THREES THAT WHEN YOU GET TO THE ALLEY, THAT IS WHERE THE NEW FENCE, THE METAL FENCE THAT I HAD SHOWN YOU GOES ALL THE WAY TO THE PLAYGROUND THAT HAS THAT BLACK CHAIN-LINK FENCE AROUND IT AND IT TURNS THE CORNER UP HERE.
AND THEN IT COMES BACK AND DISSES THE PLAYGROUND PLAYGROUNDS THAT CHAIN-LINK FENCES RIGHT THERE AND THEN THE METAL WILL TRAVERSE ALONG THE SOUTH EDGE OF THE ALLEY.
IT WILL BE ON OUR PROPERTY AND THE ADJACENT PROPERTY.
SO BE ABOUT 8-FOOT GRASS STRIP ON THE FAN SPEED AND THEN THE BEYOND THAT FENCE THERE WILL BE FIVE THREES PLANTED, EIGHT SHRUBS MINIMUM AND THEN ALL THE PLANTINGS, OF WHICH THE ORDINANCE REQUIRES -- SO IN EVERY YARD THERE WILL BE APPROXIMATELY FOUR SHADE THREES AND FIVE EVERGREENS BETWEEN WHA IS ALONG THE PERIMETER AND THEY HAD SCREENS COME IF YOU WILL.
SO THE HOMEOWNER LIVING IN THE VILLAGE RIGHT NOW, LOOKING IN THE DIRECTION OF THE NEW POTENTIAL DEVELOPMENT WILL SEE THE FENCE AND THEN THEY WILL SE EIGHT THREES AT LEAST.
>> 8375 SHRUBS. >> I THINK THE EVERGREEN ALONG
THE FENCE LINE BASICALLY. >> AND IF THE PLANNING COMMISSION FEELS LIKE MORE EVERGREENS AS APPROPRIATE THEN SHADE THREES ARE BUT THE PLANTING PATTERN IS, WE ARE RECEPTIVE TO HEARING THAT BUT THE PLAN THAT WE PRESENTED TO YOU IS WHAT THE LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT, WHAT MADE SENSE AND THREE EVERGREEN THREES AND TWO SHADE THREES MAKES A PRETTY SIGNIFICANT SCREEN. WILL BE THERE TOMORROW AND PLANTED AT AS I INDICATED, THES EVERGREEN THREES THAT WERE PLANTED, THOSE WERE PLANTED SOM TIME AGO WHEN THIS HOME WAS CONSTRUCTED ON THE SITE. SHADE THREES ARE 2.5 PLANTING AND WE FEEL THAT IS GOING TO GROW INTO A PRETTY SUFFICIENT SCREEN ALONG THAT EDGE, DEPENDING ON THE VARIETY, JUST AS TALL AS 6 FEET TALL. BUT THEY GROW INTO A MANICURED HEIGHT. AND THAT'S ALL IN THE BACKYARD.
THAT'S ALL ALONG THE 20 PUT SPACE BETWEEN THE FENCE AND THE VERY EDGE OF THE YARD AND THE TWO ADDITIONAL SHADE THREES AT OTHER PLACES IN THE YEAR YARD AND THEY CAN PUSH IT ALL BACK THAT FAR BUT THE REQUIREMENT AN THE ORDINANCE THAT ESTABLISHED BY THE CITY, THOSE MAINTAIN THA AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE.
I DON'T LIKE LANDSCAPING ANYMOR BUT THEY DON'T HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO DIMINISH THE STANDARD THAT WOULD BE IMPOSED.
LIKE RESIDENT DAY IF I JUST WEN OUT PLANTED FIVE THREES IN THE GARDEN FIVE YEARS FROM NOW I CA TAKE THEM OUT.
THIS SITUATION CREATES AN EASEMENT ON THE INDIVIDUAL OWNERS LOT WHICH HAS A LANDSCAPING MAINTENANCE EAST EASEMENT THAT WOULD BE DEDICATED .
>> THANK YOU FOR EXPLAINING ALL THAT.
I STILL PUT LIKE TO KNOW MORE ABOUT THE ACTUAL LOOK OF THESE HOMES VERSUS THE SKETCHES THAT WERE PUT UP BECAUSE THEY WEREN' TOO EXCITING REALLY, I DIDN'T THINK.
I THINK YOU ALL CAN COME WITH MORE.
THAT'S MY REQUEST. >> UNDERSTOOD.
>> JONATHAN. >> ONE THING BACK ON AMENITIES, ON THE EXHIBIT DATED SEPTEMBER 24TH, IT SHOWS THE PLAYGROUND BEING OUTLOOK LOOKS LIKE TO BE LOT 38.
>> IS THIS THE ONE YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT.
>> YES. SO IT SHOWS THIS IS THE
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STRUCTURE AND THE PLAYGROUND JUST SITS ADJACENT THAT FURTHERAWAY FROM THAT LOT. >> IT LOOKS LIKE IT IS POINTED
AT 30. >> HAVE GOT ANOTHER BLOWUP THAT GIVES THAT LINE TO THE LOT BUT IT IS ACTUALLY IN THE COMMON AREA. WE WILL TAKE THAT SPACE AND BLO IT UP I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN BLOW THAT UP BUT WE'VE MADE AN ADJUSTMENT TO THE POND AND THE STRUCTURE AND THE SHELTER.
WE WILL PUSH THIS OUT WITH THE NEXT SUBMITTAL.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS? PART I DON'T BELIEVE WE NEED TO
VOTE ON ANYTHING. >> I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SAY ON THE FENCE AND THE BUMPER, I THINK THAT IS GREAT I JUST WANT TO LOOK AT IT A DIFFERENT WAY PEWTER BUDDY SEEMS TO BE TALKIN ABOUT HOW DO WE BUMPER THIS DEVELOPMENT PICK IF I FOR SOMEBODY INTERESTED IN ONE OF THOSE LOTS, IT'S GOING TO BACK UP TO THE VILLAGE OF WEST CLAY, I WOULDN'T WANT THAT THERE BECAUSE THAT I WANT TO LOOK AT SOMEBODY'S ALLEY IN THEIR GARAGE . THE TRASH CANS ARE PROBABLY OUT THERE SOMEWHERE. SO I THINK THE BOPPER IS GOOD FROM BOTH SIDES. I WOULDN'T SAY THAT.
I RESPECT WHAT YOU HAD TO SAY. WOULDN'T HEAR ME SAY THAT.
JOHN, WE'VE GOT WHAT YOU JUST TOOK DOWN.
SO JUST A CURIOSITY QUESTION BECAUSE NOW YOU HAVE BY EXTENDING THE LAND BUT THE PLAYGROUND ON, YOU'VE TAKEN AWA FROM THE WATER OR YOU HAVE JUST RECONFIGURED THE WATER.
>> REDUCED THE POND SURFACE AREA .
SO I'M FINE WITH THAT BUT I'M JUST CURIOUS, I DON'T HOW TO DESCRIBE IT. THE NORTHWEST LITTLE PIECE THAT JUTS OUT. IS THAT AN OPPORTUNITY TO COME
DOWN AND DO SOMETHING MORE. >> IF THE SURVEYOR'S OFFICE WAS
A THAT. >> I JUST THINK YOU'RE GOING TO CUT INTO IT TO ADD THE PLAYGROUND, I WOULD SAY COMING ON DOWN AND ADDING MORE GREEN SPACE.
I KNOW THEY'RE GOING TO ACCOMMODATE SOME HARDSCAPE BEIN STAFF. IT IS NOT A WALKING PATH.
IT IS A DECORATIVE ROCK INSTALLATION WE WILL TAKE A LOO
AT IT. >> I THOUGHT WITH THE UPDATED CONFIGURATION, THERE'S LESS FRO THE WEST OF THE EAST.
AGAIN. THIS IS THE ZONING PROCESS.
WE HEAR FROM EVERYBODY, WERE GOING TO TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION. I JUST WANT EVERYONE TO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO WEIGH IN ABOUT THE CONNECTION.
>> THANK YOU, JOHN BUT I DON'T THINK THAT WE NEED TO VOTE ON ANYTHING. WILL JUST BE COMING BACK HERE O NOVEMBER 5. I BELIEVE THAT WRAPS UP OUR MEETING. I GUESS I'VE GOT TO MAKE A NOTE
ON THAT. >> THAT IS ALL WE HAVE TO DISCUSS TONIGHT SO THANK YOU AL FOR COMING AND WE WILL SEE YOU.
I'M NOT GOOD WITH DATES.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.